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Jonti wrote: »

You are off your head if you accept and entry job in IT at €9 per hour! You didn't go to college for four years to get paid minimum wage.
Non qualified people I know earn more than that!
Get on the phone to HR and tell them you want at least €20 per hour to start with.
People and companies take advantage of people that don't ask questions by offering them sh-t money and terms and conditions. Man up.

ah that's a bit much for a grad like

OK so you have left the salary discussion late and they go with the lowest amount they could get away with on your contract. For future if this is not done at interview stage it should be done when an offer is made, way before contracts arrive while you still have negotiating power. You wouldn't agree to buy an item before finding out the price would you? It gives free reign to the seller to set the price.

Before returning to the table and demanding more. Have a think about it Have you been offered other IT jobs and if you have how does the salary compare? What is the market like in the area? Is the experience you could gain worth putting up with it for a bit? What are the hours like and is overtime paid? Do you know any other grads who have started in this company, in the last couple of years that you could inquire on starting salaries?

After considering the options approach the company letting them know that you were delighted with the offer but you were very surprised that their starting salary for grads was so low? Give them an opportunity to offer more or explain. Perhaps its their standard amount for grads and if it is it won't be the first time they have had the discussion! Maybe query on whether the salary is reviewed in 6 months and what % increments are likely. What additional benefits there are. Be careful about how you approach the discussion you want to get them to return to negotiations not have a standoff.

If you don't get a higher offer and don't take the job, don't be too disheartened. See it as a lesson learned one your likely to come across again and at least you'll be better prepared.

TrustedApple wrote: »

WIT is where my degree is from and it is in computers i also have the oracle Java certs and another 3 certs on top of it.

If you don't believe me do you wont to see my contact ?. As it clearly says 9 euros a hour for that role.

I have a learning disability EX dyslexia and some times its hard to spell right and get the grammar the right way around.

Is it actually a regular job you have been offered, or some sort of supported-employment placement?

Again, don't want to be mean but I would not let someone with your spelling near my codebase!

Sounds like a support position, not an engineer job. For a support job 9 p/h might not be terribly out of proportion. The term multi national is a bit vague as well as to what it means i.e are you talking a google/apple type? consultancy?

Without more details about the company and the role offered it's hard to say whether it's a good or bad wage....just by the fact alone that it's given in a hourly rate it doesn't sound like an an engineer role.

FortySeven wrote: »

Tell them to deck right off. Sql coding @9ph? Incredulous op. Absolutely unbelievable that they would try to deck you over in this way. You should name and shame.
Also. Grow up fast or you will always be a victim. I mean this in the nicest possible way. You are worth money to an employer. Lidl pay 11.50 for shelfstackers ffs!

That seems horribly low for a graduate dev/support role, I earned that in pounds when I started! best thing is get onto HR and tell them you're very dissapointed with the rate offered, find out from college mates what they are getting and if you're not happy with their new offer reject and apply to other places, the jobs market is surely not that bad at the moment...

TrustedApple wrote: »

Hi guys i got a job offer there the other day and i never talked to them about my wages i got the contract there and i am not impressed with the wages at all and its a lot less then other people i know who work in the same kind of roles in IT. In the interview they never brought up wages or anything like that and i didnt because i am not rude.

I cant live on them wages due to the fact rent is gone nuts and i am still paying off my student loan and in the job i am in now i get a better wage for a less role.

Will i be wrong to ask for more money for the role ?.

It's not rude to ask about salary on the interview. Job is agreement to benefit both sides.
You are to provide your labour to them - so they ask you about your qualifications, experience, etc.
They are to provide you with salary - so you should ask how much are they willing to pay.
It's really as simple as that.

€9 per hour is bit ridiculous in your profession.

TrustedApple wrote: »

If it was only as easy as people think it is to get jobs in a entry lv role in IT.

I know so many people who cant get jobs in entry lv roles with better degrees then me. I had to go i think on 14 interviews before i got a job offer and some of the stuff i was asked in interviews was shocking from how blue doors is there in cork to picking a flower suppler for a IT dev job.

At this stage i am happy i got a job and would have taking anything as long as its fairly ok money. Its only 6 months after that i will have 6 months under my belt and will get a better job or the job i will be in will be better paid. Sometimes we have to take these jobs to get the exp or another 6 months in a job i hate to something else comes along. I was in a job that was shocking the life out of me and just had no intreat in anymore.

Well done OP, you're absolutely right, entry level roles are very difficult to get and even for people with some experience (me) moving on is not easy street. I can't count how many interviews I've had in the last year where either I didn't get it (someone was more experienced), I did a bad interview, or the company were tossers. You have a good attitude, forget about money in the beginning just get on the ladder and you can increase afterwards.