Turkey shoots down Russian fighter plane

Corvo · 24-11-2015 10:42AM

The Russians are always at it. About time someone shot them down.

BoJack Horseman · 24-11-2015 10:42AM

ronan45 wrote: »

Was thinking maybe they could use their vast array of on board Air to Ground Weaponry

That's an AC-130.

Turkey doesn't have any of them.

IvySlayer · 24-11-2015 10:42AM

Turkey have the second biggest army in NATO and their air force is pretty modern, I don't think even Russia can do anything about it really

snubbleste · 24-11-2015 10:42AM

How much would an SU-24 fighter jet cost?

nxbyveromdwjpg · 24-11-2015 10:43AM

Change the title, it's misleading

Gatling · 24-11-2015 10:43AM

Akrasia wrote: »

How would a C130 at tens of thousands of feet altitude stop rebels on the ground from capturing the pilots?

Unfortunately russia doesn't have C130 spectre Gunships .

Made in America .

Hyzepher · 24-11-2015 10:44AM

ronan45 wrote: »

Was thinking maybe they could use their vast array of on board Air to Ground Weaponry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkGcx6XM3Ec

Bring the rain!

Ri_Nollaig · 24-11-2015 10:44AM

BlibBlab wrote: »

Yeah but this was a member attacking an outside nation. Like the way the coalition invading Iraq didn't automatically trigger the clause and mean every nations had to invade

I know, I mean if Russia decides to response directly against Turkey.

BoJack Horseman · 24-11-2015 10:45AM

snubbleste wrote: »

How much would an SU-24 fighter jet cost?

They aren't made anymore.

One of the more older Russian planes, started service 44 years ago

snubbleste · 24-11-2015 10:45AM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

They aren't made anymore.
One of the more older Russian planes, started service 44 years ago

So rare, it's priceless

JPNelsforearm · 24-11-2015 10:48AM

I think its about time Byzantium was liberated from the Seljuks

speedboatchase · 24-11-2015 10:49AM

IvySlayer wrote: »

Turkey have the second biggest army in NATO and their air force is pretty modern, I don't think even Russia can do anything about it really

I'm fairly sure they can.

BoJack Horseman · 24-11-2015 10:50AM

JPNelsforearm wrote: »

I think its about time Byzantium was liberated from the Seljuks

I could do that on 'Mediaeval Total War 2'.

No reason why not!

Kerrydude1981 · 24-11-2015 10:50AM

I didn't even know Russia wasn't a full member of Nato,they are in a Nato group with us called "Partnership for Peace"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_NATO

24-11-2015 10:51AM

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

I didn't even know Russia wasn't a full member of Nato,they are in a Nato group with us called "Partnership for Peace"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_NATO

What the hell did you think NATO was?

CruelCoin · 24-11-2015 10:52AM

speedboatchase wrote: »

I'm reading that they crashed in Syria and are in rebel hands.

This will be interesting.

Lets see how "moderate" these rebels are in their treatment of the pilots.

pfffffft......LOL :pac:

They're no more "moderate" than Hitler was pacifist.

gandalf · 24-11-2015 10:55AM

ronan45 wrote: »

I am surprised the Russians dont have contingency plans for a situation like this, Have they not got something like a C130 that can orbit the site where the pilots came down to ward off rebels from locating and apprehending the pilots... then while this plane lends air support await some Attack helicopters to get the pilots out?!?

I have a feeling that Russia doesn't value it's military personnel the way the US does and it certainly doesn't give a damn about public opinion.

jamesbere · 24-11-2015 10:55AM

So this is it, the start of WW3. You would think they would at least wait till Christmas.

MarkR · 24-11-2015 10:55AM

Akrasia wrote: »

How would a C130 at tens of thousands of feet altitude stop rebels on the ground from capturing the pilots?

It is this one?

The Lockheed AC-130 gunship is a heavily armed, long-endurance ground-attack aircraft. It carries a wide array of anti-ground oriented weapons that are integrated with sophisticated sensors, navigation, and fire-control systems.

So... With weapons. Lots of them.

CruelCoin · 24-11-2015 10:58AM

emo72 wrote: »

Couldn't give a ****e about WW3, nothing to do with us, we're neutral.

Not so sure about that.

If you can be an accomplice in commiting murder, then can you also not be an accomplice in waging war?

Irish troops going to Mali, specifically to free up French troops to fight IS.

If that's not aiding, then i don't know what is.

We'd be neutral if we didn't free up French troops.

(i'm not anti war, i just don't feel we're neutral as people claim)

gandalf · 24-11-2015 10:59AM

MarkR wrote: »

It is this one?

So... With weapons. Lots of them.

Ri_Nollaig · 24-11-2015 11:01AM

MarkR wrote: »

It is this one?

So... With weapons. Lots of them.

The AC130 is American but Russia probably have an equivalent.

Gatling · 24-11-2015 11:02AM

MarkR wrote: »

It is this one?

So... With weapons. Lots of them.

One problem as I said earlier.

Russia doesn't have C130 Spectre Gunships .

The Sun King · 24-11-2015 11:03AM

Another week, another claim that WW3 is here. I've lived through about 300 starts to it by now.

Tabnabs · 24-11-2015 11:04AM

Ri_Nollaig wrote: »

The AC130 is American but Russia probably have an equivalent.

Not as dynamic, but brutal none the less.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/90/2b/58/902b5893fa51d4ced9f0b8da31b3e765.jpg

BoJack Horseman · 24-11-2015 11:05AM

Ri_Nollaig wrote: »

The AC130 is American but Russia probably have an equivalent.

No, they don't..... They never really needed to with so many helicopters.

bear1 · 24-11-2015 11:09AM

Posters are saying that nato gets involved as a nation has attacked a nato member... That would be true if Russia had actually attacked them but straying into their airspace doesn't constitute an attack.
Turkey haven't done anyone any favours with this especially in an area of the world where so many countries are battling against a common enemy.
Hope the pilots are ok and not in rebel hands

snubbleste · 24-11-2015 11:12AM

bear1 wrote: »

Posters are saying that nato gets involved as a nation has attacked a nato member... That would be true if Russia had actually attacked them but straying into their airspace doesn't constitute an attack.
Turkey haven't done anyone any favours with this especially in an area of the world where so many countries are battling against a common enemy.
Hope the pilots are ok and not in rebel hands

Yeah but
"Turkey is a member of the Nato alliance, which has said it is ready to defend Turkey if Russia violated its airspace"

bear1 · 24-11-2015 11:14AM

snubbleste wrote: »

Yeah but
"Turkey is a member of the Nato alliance, which has said it is ready to defend Turkey if Russia violated its airspace"

Point taken but I would have thought that some sort of agreement should have been achieved when Russia went into Syria that it may happen that they might stray into their airspace. It would be completely different if Russian jets just flew into it for other purposes.
Besides this is just conjecture at this point as the Russians say they were in Syria and the Turks in turkey.
Might be a while before we actually know what indeed happened.

K-9 · 24-11-2015 11:16AM

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

I didn't even know Russia wasn't a full member of Nato,they are in a Nato group with us called "Partnership for Peace"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_NATO

Kind of outside the tent pissing in with a lot of the other ex Soviet states.

The European neutral countries lime us, Austria and Switzerland are also included so it doesn't look like much of a group tbh.

Though we aren't technically neutral like the Swiss.

Turkey shoots down Russian fighter plane

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