Turkey shoots down Russian fighter plane

snubbleste · 24-11-2015 10:21AM #1

- The Russian defence ministry has confirmed that its SU-24 fighter jet was shot down near Syria's border with Turkey.
- Turkey says the plane violated its airspace, but Russia denies this.
- Russia has said the plane was shot down from the ground, while Turkey says its fighter planes downed the plane.
- Turkey says they gave 10 warnings before shooting down the plane.
- Russia has confirmed that the two pilots ejected themselves, but their whereabouts and fate are not yet known.

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-34908469
Get your iodine tablets out, people!

PARlance · 24-11-2015 10:23AM

"- Russia has confirmed that the two pilots ejected themselves, but their whereabouts and fate are not yet known."

They're probably in Turkey lads.

speedboatchase · 24-11-2015 10:24AM

Change the headline to Turkey, rather than NATO.

The balls on Turkey, though. Planet-sized.

bear1 · 24-11-2015 10:24AM

That's a very serious situation to be in now.

smash · 24-11-2015 10:24AM

Cool. I've been waiting for a Top Gun sequel.

speedboatchase · 24-11-2015 10:25AM

PARlance wrote: »

"- Russia has confirmed that the two pilots ejected themselves, but their whereabouts and fate are not yet known."

They're probably in Turkey lads.

I'm reading that they crashed in Syria and are in rebel hands.

BoJack Horseman · 24-11-2015 10:26AM

Turkish shootdown or NATO?

Turkey is part of the UN..... Was it a UN shoot down?

snubbleste · 24-11-2015 10:26AM

speedboatchase wrote: »

Change the headline to Turkey, rather than NATO.
The balls on Turkey, though. Planet-sized.

Turkey is a part of Nato.. "Turkey is a member of the Nato alliance, which has said it is ready to defend Turkey if Russia violated its airspace"

Gatling · 24-11-2015 10:26AM

speedboatchase wrote: »

Change the headline to Turkey, rather than NATO.

The balls on Turkey, though. Planet-sized.

Putin's just got peeded on

bear1 · 24-11-2015 10:27AM

speedboatchase wrote: »

I'm reading that they crashed in Syria and are in rebel hands.

If that's the case they may as well have stayed in the plane.

The_Valeyard · 24-11-2015 10:27AM

Well, this has been going on for the past month.

Russia violates Turkish airspace, Turkey threatens to respond, today they followed through with the threat.

Russians might think twice now, could be best to take the long way around.

bear1 · 24-11-2015 10:29AM

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Well, this has been going on for the past month.

Russia violates Turkish airspace, Turkey threatens to respond, today they followed through with the threat.

Russians might think twice now, could be best to take the long way around.

I don't see Russia rolling over on this. It's a very serious diplomatic issue and if the pilots are killed then this will get even worse.
Possible start to WW3?

FortySeven · 24-11-2015 10:29AM

This was bound to happen at some point. Didn't expect it so soon. Things getting hairy now.

BoJack Horseman · 24-11-2015 10:30AM

bear1 wrote: »

Possible start to WW3?

Certainly time to crack each others skulls open & feed on the goo inside.

conorhal · 24-11-2015 10:31AM

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Well, this has been going on for the past month.

Russia violates Turkish airspace, Turkey threatens to respond, today they followed through with the threat.

Russians might think twice now, could be best to take the long way around.

Turkey implicity support IS, well for at least as long as they keep bombing the Kurds. Erdogan is a deeply unpleasent character but I suspect he's messed with the wrong despot this time. Expect the PKK to suddenly 'find' a cache of weapons that include some Russian made surface to air missiles that will greatly enhance their fight for an independent Kurdistan.

speedboatchase · 24-11-2015 10:31AM

snubbleste wrote: »

Turkey is a part of Nato.. "Turkey is a member of the Nato alliance, which has said it is ready to defend Turkey if Russia violated its airspace"

It is, but that's not how this is being reported. Turkey specifically shot it down, not an alliance of 28 countries.

Kerrydude1981 · 24-11-2015 10:33AM

smash wrote: »

Cool. I've been waiting for a Top Gun sequel.

Behind Turkish Lines

Shannon757 · 24-11-2015 10:34AM

I wonder will the Russians attack Turkey over this?

emo72 · 24-11-2015 10:35AM

Couldn't give a ****e about WW3, nothing to do with us, we're neutral.

ronan45 · 24-11-2015 10:35AM

I am surprised the Russians dont have contingency plans for a situation like this, Have they not got something like a C130 that can orbit the site where the pilots came down to ward off rebels from locating and apprehending the pilots... then while this plane lends air support await some Attack helicopters to get the pilots out?!?

smash · 24-11-2015 10:35AM

Shannon757 wrote: »

I wonder will the Russians attack Turkey over this?

They'll probably go after Jason Statham.

Akrasia · 24-11-2015 10:36AM

There could be serious ramifications from this

Will Turkey still be competing in the Eurovision this year?

snubbleste · 24-11-2015 10:37AM

https://twitter.com/bopanc/status/669074437900263424

Akrasia · 24-11-2015 10:37AM

ronan45 wrote: »

I am surprised the Russians dont have contingency plans for a situation like this, Have they not got something like a C130 that can orbit the site where the pilots came down to ward off rebels from locating and apprehending the pilots... then while this plane lends air support await some Attack helicopters to get the pilots out?!?

How would a C130 at tens of thousands of feet altitude stop rebels on the ground from capturing the pilots?

BlibBlab · 24-11-2015 10:38AM

Wasn't NATO op, don't get why you feel the need to say its NATO when it was clearly Turkey. Ridiculous attention seeking

Ri_Nollaig · 24-11-2015 10:39AM

Isn't the whole point of NATO that any attack on a member is seen as an attack on the whole group, i.e. same as attacking US or UK

ronan45 · 24-11-2015 10:40AM

Akrasia wrote: »

How would a C130 at tens of thousands of feet altitude stop rebels on the ground from capturing the pilots?

Was thinking maybe they could use their vast array of on board Air to Ground Weaponry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkGcx6XM3Ec

Badly Drunk Boy · 24-11-2015 10:40AM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Turkish shootdown or NATO?

Turkey is part of the UN..... Was it a UN shoot down?

Turkey is part of Christmas dinner. Was the ham involved? Is it a Christmas miracle?

Kerrydude1981 · 24-11-2015 10:40AM

Ri_Nollaig wrote: »

Isn't the whole point of NATO that any attack on a member is seen as an attack on the whole group, i.e. same as attacking US or UK

Friendly fire???

Gatling · 24-11-2015 10:41AM

bear1 wrote: »

Possible start to WW3?

Doubt it but Putin's been put in an odd position.

BlibBlab · 24-11-2015 10:42AM

Ri_Nollaig wrote: »

Isn't the whole point of NATO that any attack on a member is seen as an attack on the whole group, i.e. same as attacking US or UK

Yeah but this was a member attacking an outside nation. Like the way the coalition invading Iraq didn't automatically trigger the clause and mean every nations had to invade

Turkey shoots down Russian fighter plane

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