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Shootings in Paris - MOD NOTE UPDATED - READ OP

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  • #6272
    kettlehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭kettlehead


    Nodin wrote: »
    ...in which case seven of the nine were born in France.

    And they are all of a recent foreign background.


  • #6273
    conorhal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,080 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Nodin wrote: »
    ...in which case seven of the nine were born in France.

    Yes, that's extremely comforting. Oh wait, it isn't, it's just a glimpse into our future.


  • #6274
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    conorhal wrote: »
    Yes, that's extremely comforting. Oh wait, it isn't, it's just a glimpse into our future.

    That's a depressing thought, specially as we only recently got rid of our own 'home grown' variety of terrorist :(


  • #6275
    conorhal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,080 ✭✭✭conorhal


    LordSutch wrote: »
    That's a depressing thought, specially as we only recently got rid of our own 'home grown' variety of terrorist :(

    Well that's the race to the bottom for you, outsourcing and replacing the indiginous with cheap foreign imports!


  • #6276
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Yes indeed, and the imported variety are far more dangerous & vicious than the indigenous variety.


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  • #6277
    captbarnacles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭captbarnacles


    http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/11/22/1451631/-Radical-Christian-holy-warriors-really-need-to-stop-throwing-stones

    Let’s proceed onward, Christian soldier, starting with the very first two commandments:

    I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. Thou shall have no other gods before me.

    “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.
    So as you can see from the very first of the commandments, God himself states that he is jealous and that he calls for the punishment of those who would worship differently—not just on those individuals, but also on their next four generations.

    And then there’s Deuteronomy 13:6:

    6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.

    The whole article is an interesting read. The OT God was not to be messed with.


  • #6278
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    kettlehead wrote: »
    And they are all of a recent foreign background.


    ?? ????


  • #6279
    kettlehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭kettlehead


    Nodin wrote: »
    ?? ????

    They are all of recent North African immigrant descent. They are not native Europeans.

    Europes crazy immigration policies of the previous few decades are firmly coming home to roost.


  • #6280
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Yes indeed, and the imported variety are far more dangerous & vicious than the indigenous variety.

    As the Black and Tans and Paratroopers taught us. You do love to ride that hobby horse don't you?

    Just look at the brutal history of the British Forces, you so admire, across the globe and it makes those who fought them here in Ireland look like choir boys.


  • #6281
    testaccount123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭testaccount123


    captbarnacles wrote: »
    The whole article is an interesting read. The OT God was not to be messed with.

    What a stupid article. Radical Christian extremists are not attacking us.


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  • #6282
    padd b1975
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,863 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    kettlehead wrote: »
    They are all of recent North African immigrant descent. They are not native Europeans.

    Europes crazy immigration policies of the previous few decades are firmly coming home to roost.

    Rivers of blood, as a much derided politican once spoke of.


  • #6283
    kettlehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭kettlehead


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Rivers of blood, as a much derided politican once spoke of.

    Yes and if people think that these guys saw themselves as French, Belgian or European then they are utterly deluded.


  • #6284
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    kettlehead wrote: »
    They are all of recent North African immigrant descent. They are not native Europeans.

    Europes crazy immigration policies of the previous few decades are firmly coming home to roost.


    ....you are aware that "radical muslim" is not a race?


  • #6285
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Junkyard Tom wrote: »

    Just look at the brutal history of the British Forces, you so admire, across the globe and it makes those who fought them here in Ireland look like choir boys.

    We're talking terrorist organisations here like ISIS, not the British army or the French army. Anyway I don't know what you two are doing in here, seeing as you both supported the Republican bombing "campaign".


  • #6286
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    LordSutch wrote: »
    We're talking terrorist organisations here like ISIS, not the British army or the French army.

    The French and British did their fair share of terrorising around the globe - have you anything to say about the terror the British unleashed in Ireland? No? Then why do you keep bringing up the conflicts here?

    Why are you even posting here? Nearly every one of your posts in this thread is whining about unrelated events that happened here in Ireland.


  • #6287
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    kettlehead wrote: »
    They are all of recent North African immigrant descent. They are not native Europeans.

    Europes crazy immigration policies of the previous few decades are firmly coming home to roost.

    At some point an argument would be welcome.


    You hate immigration we get it. How would you amend the immigration policies of the past and how in the world would that have had an effect on Paris. Otherwise you sound like the rest, assuming their point has been proven when it really hasn't. Frequently the exact point is still up for debate.


  • #6288
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    Why are you even posting here? Nearly every one of your posts in this thread is whining about unrelated events that happened here in Ireland.

    Because you and your partner in crime Supported the Armed campaign of bombing and shooting!

    And now you come on here wafting around all nice and anti atrocity.

    Talk about hypocrisy


  • #6289
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Because you and your partner in crime Supported the Armed campaign of BOMBING amnd shooting! And now you come on here wafting around all nice and anti atrocity.

    The PIRA did plenty of ruthless things I would never condone. They were however a symptom of the disease of British/Unionist terrorism in the north - something you have difficulty getting to grips with. The conflict is long over except in your head.

    Quit dancing on the graves of the dead by using this awful tragedy in Paris to grind your own axe about resistance to British terrorism here. It's disgusting.


  • #6290
    BoatMad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,506 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    As the Black and Tans and Paratroopers taught us. You do love to ride that hobby horse don't you?

    Just look at the brutal history of the British Forces, you so admire, across the globe and it makes those who fought them here in Ireland look like choir boys.

    perhaps you d like to identify a colonial or major paper that DIDNT have a " brutal history"

    nothing special about the Brits ( well a catholic pope did ask them to go to Hibernia and tame the savages , I suppose)


  • #6291
    robertobennini
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13 ✭robertobennini


    Saying ISIS has nothing to do with Islam is like saying the IRA's brutal campaign of violence during the troubles had nothing to do with Republicanism.


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  • #6292
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    BoatMad wrote: »
    perhaps you d like to identify a colonial or major paper that DIDNT have a " brutal history"

    And that would make a 'brutal history' any less brutal how exactly?


  • #6293
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I wish some of you, on whatever side, would shut the **** up.

    I never knew a thread could give you a headache until I entered this one.


  • #6294
    wes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    kettlehead wrote: »
    They are all of recent North African immigrant descent. They are not native Europeans.

    Europes crazy immigration policies of the previous few decades are firmly coming home to roost.

    Except that most the French people descended from North Africa, came over when Algeria etc were under French colonial rule. Algeria was even technically a part of the EEC, until they left after they became independent.

    The French had a policy of assimilation, and hence why so many speak French in North Africa today. The reason so many French people are of North African descent is due to there colonies, where they pretty much treated the colonies as part of France. So some of there colonial subjects moving to France is due to that, and not the modern immigration policies.


  • #6295
    Uncle Ben
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Uncle Ben


    Our esteemed minister for justice burying her head on news at one now with regard to Islamic terrorism.


  • #6296
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Uncle Ben wrote: »
    Our esteemed minister for justice burying her head on news at one now with regard to Islamic terrorism.

    Were the IRA bombings Christian terrorism or Protestant terrorism?


  • #6297
    BoatMad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,506 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    Overheal wrote: »
    Were the IRA bombings Christian terrorism or Protestant terrorism?

    no they were followers of the religion of Idiocy


  • #6298
    jackofalltrades
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭jackofalltrades


    Overheal wrote: »
    Were the IRA bombings Christian terrorism or Protestant terrorism?
    Neither, what's your point?


  • #6299
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    Overheal wrote: »
    Were the IRA bombings Christian terrorism or Protestant terrorism?

    Did the IRA claim to be acting on God's orders? Was the establishment of a fundamentalist Christian state one of their stated aims?


  • #6300
    kettlehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭kettlehead


    Overheal wrote: »
    Were the IRA bombings Christian terrorism or Protestant terrorism?

    Is your whataboutery Protestant, Catholic or atheist whataboutery?


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  • #6301
    zeffabelli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭zeffabelli


    Overheal wrote: »
    Were the IRA bombings Christian terrorism or Protestant terrorism?

    Both sides historically had their terrorisms and their political wars.

    This argument that it has nothing to do with religion is really ridiculous...it reminds of when Catholics talk about the Christian brothers not being real Catholics...The pope isn't a real Catholic...Vatican one isn't real...

    Circumcision has nothing to do with Judaism. Yes it does.

    The far right fundamentalists in the US are directly pumping money into Isreal because of an end of days apocolyptic fantasy. And yes that does have something to do with Protestants!!

    Come on.... you mean they are not that religion in how YOU want to see that religion.

    The denial that this has anything to do with Islam or religion or the supernatural is because people do not want to consider they have any psychological proximity to it. Religion has always been about power.


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