convicted paedophile gets to serve sentence at home as he's in a wheelchair

Leyla123 wrote: »

You have to remember he is kept in a residential area. Ask yourself a question :would you like to have him as your neighbour.... any paedophile in a wheelchair or not should be locked up. Don't have a place for him in a prison put him in a mental institutions, he is sicko at the end of day if he insulted a child.

He is locked up. In his house. What do you imagine is going to happen? That his going to roll out his back window, then roll into the second story windows of other people homes?

In reality he's neighbours are getting free 24 hour manned security.

Leyla123 wrote: »

I did. What are you suggesting?? Not only I read the articles but also I have the pleasure to live next door to him.

I'm not suggesting anything , sometimes posters often post without reading a lot of the thread including reading accompanying articles.

I was curious to know if read the articles that's all.

Everyone here undoubtedly appreciates your anguish particularly as you say , you live beside him.

The prison service is deploying four prison officers to guard Davoren’s home every day – at a cost of around 1,600 euro per day before tax.

Davoren was sentenced in July, and is expected to serve around 3 years and 8 months of his term.

If he serves out this sentence at his Castlegar apartment, it will cost around 2.2 million euro.

2.2 million for a Castlegar apartment with guards to protect him... I'm thinking he's doing this as he knows he'll get the crap beaten out of him for being a kiddie fiddler, if he goes to the "real" prison.

simdan wrote: »

I don't understand why you care about the safety of this dispicable person? He shouldn't be compared to other wheelchair users and should be locked up and forgotten about like any other criminal who has committed such a crime.

I don't care about the safety of him, but there are practical considerations. The state has a legal responsibility, we can't just turn into savages just because he's a particularly nasty individual.

A person with his condition could die without the proper care and facilities. If they send him into a cell knowing he would die, then the state is responsible for his death.

If you were prepared to stand over this guy and watch him die from his medical conditions, then I'd be more willing to let it happen. But as this is just people coming up with torture fantasies, that they expect some poor prison officers to carry out on their behalf, then I'm less inclined to listen to a viewpoint that simply ignores the facts of the real world.

Sentence to life sans wheelchair, and allow only court appointed visitors to his house.

Leyla123 wrote: »

Die from his condition? Ffs he has no use of his legs.

Which shows your ignorance of this disability. I've already said it in the thread, but something as simple as him using the wrong type of cushion on his wheelchair could kill him due to blood clots. It's not as simple as his legs don't work, other problems arise from that condition.

I've never heard anyone complainting about their tax money being paid to keep pedophiles in jail.
Millions are wasted on nothing, so spend a few million now and get a proper prison facility were a range of handicaps can be accommodated for.

tmh106 wrote: »

Very enlightened. Not beside me, but OK for potentially vulnerable mental health patients to have him as a neighbour. And I thought we had moved forward on our attitude to mental health.

Some might say he has mental issues if he "likes" kids. It's okay to keep him in a residential area but it's not ok to put him in a place where there should be 24hrs care. At least he might get some help there.

Leyla123 wrote: »

Some might say he has mental issues if he "likes" kids. It's okay to keep him in a residential area but it's not ok to put him in a place where there should be 24hrs care. At least he might get some help there.

Gosh, sorry, I didn't get from your previous posts that you were concerned about him getting help, quite the opposite. What I took from your post was that it's not OK for you to have to suffer him as a neighbour, but it's OK for mental health patients because ... (well actually I'm not sure why you think it is OK, you'll have to enlighten us on that)

And, yes, in terms of child/public safety I don't particularly see a problem with putting him in a residential area given the terms of his confinement there and the fact that he will be under constant guard. Whether putting him there is sufficient punishment for his crime is a separate question.

Jayop wrote: »

Already did

lock him up so :-]

ScumLord wrote: »

Which shows your ignorance of this disability. I've already said it in the thread, but something as simple as him using the wrong type of cushion on his wheelchair could kill him due to blood clots. It's not as simple as his legs don't work, other problems arise from that condition.

No I am not being ignorant. You don't know if there is a person in a wheelchair in my family so please don't judge me. I am trying to protect my children. He was convicted of 12 counts of sexually assulting a CHILD.
No one is saying he should not have a proper health care. I did not say he should not have all the things a disabled person needs. But he should be locked up in a prison .he should go through a hell a prisoner goes through. We all forgetting here he hurt a child.he hurt her family and friends. He destroyed this girl life. And what he got less than 5 yrs . He will be out in what 2 yrs and than what. He be free. Free to hurt another child. Would you like him to be your neighbour. Would you like him to be looking out the window looking at your child??
Why not make at least 1 cell wheelchair friendly. Disability does not mean they don't commit a crime. Have something in place because I do not believe he is the first and last person in wheelchair who committed a crime!

Leyla123 wrote: »

No I am not being ignorant. You don't know if there is a person in a wheelchair in my family so please don't judge me.

It was an ignorant comment to make. Playing the possible victim doesn't change that.

I am trying to protect my children. He was convicted of 12 counts of sexually assulting a CHILD.

I'm sorry, I didn't realise you live in the wheelchair accessible bungalow beside his house.

No one is saying he should not have a proper health care. I did not say he should not have all the things a disabled person needs. But he should be locked up in a prison

They don't have the facilities. It's as simple as that.

.he should go through a hell a prisoner goes through. We all forgetting here he hurt a child.he hurt her family and friends. He destroyed this girl life. And what he got less than 5 yrs . He will be out in what 2 yrs and than what. He be free. Free to hurt another child. Would you like him to be your neighbour. Would you like him to be looking out the window looking at your child??

Look, it would be a lot quicker and more to the point if you just said "won't someone please think of the children" and ran out of the room whaling.

Why not make at least 1 cell wheelchair friendly.

Because that won't cover it. How do they get him to the cell, what about bathrooms, what about showers, what about specialised medical treatment, what about hoists to lift him into and out of bed/toilet? Do you just expect prison officers to take on all this extra work?

And I'll say it again, I don't care about this guy, throw him in a hole and forget about him for all I care, but this country has the rule of law, human rights and all the other trappings of modern civilization. We think all these things were brought in to protect society from criminals, but I'm beginning to think we really brought them in to protect infamous from society and it's unthinking mob justice, and so we don't have to live with the consequences of our moral outrage.

Flippyfloppy wrote: »

It's interesting that we've never heard of a case like this before actually. What would happen if someone serving a life sentence became injured & wheelchair bound while in prison? Would their sentence be altered I wonder?

I doubt it, I don't think there's any jail sentence that's longer than any waiting waiting list at the hospitals so the treatment would more than likely happen after they've served their time.