convicted paedophile gets to serve sentence at home as he's in a wheelchair

marklazarcovic · 19-11-2015 06:28PM #1

:mad:

what kind of message does this send out ffs .. i dont care he's in a chair,he sexually assaulted a 13 yr old girl and ruined her life .

A 61-year old wheelchair-bound Castlegar man is to serve his jail sentence for child sex abuse in his home.

Last July, Martin Davoren, from Caireal Mór, Castlegar, pleaded guilty at Galway Circuit Criminal Court to twelve sample charges of indecently assaulting a girl at a location in the county between September 1st, 1986 and July 31st, 1988.

look at the cost of it !! build a fckin bungalow in castlerea and stick him in that for a fraction of the cost

http://galwaybayfm.ie/castlegar-man-convicted-of-indecent-assault-to-serve-time-at-home/

http://connachttribune.ie/paraplegic-paedophile-is-jailed-for-abuse-of-galway-girl-in-the-eighties-087/

jmayo · 19-11-2015 06:31PM

marklazarcovic wrote: »

:mad:

what kind of message does this send out ffs .. i dont care he's in a chair,he sexually assaulted a 13 yr old girl and ruined her life .

A 61-year old wheelchair-bound Castlegar man is to serve his jail sentence for child sex abuse in his home.

Last July, Martin Davoren, from Caireal Mór, Castlegar, pleaded guilty at Galway Circuit Criminal Court to twelve sample charges of indecently assaulting a girl at a location in the county between September 1st, 1986 and July 31st, 1988.

http://galwaybayfm.ie/castlegar-man-convicted-of-indecent-assault-to-serve-time-at-home/

http://connachttribune.ie/paraplegic-paedophile-is-jailed-for-abuse-of-galway-girl-in-the-eighties-087/

Sometimes I think the lunatics have taken over the asylum.

Galwayguy35 · 19-11-2015 06:31PM

Wheel him into a lake and be done with him.

Sicko.

Harry Palmr · 19-11-2015 06:32PM

Presumably the wheelchair will have a electronic tagging.

ScumLord · 19-11-2015 06:37PM

I would assume the jail simply isn't wheelchair accessible. The alternative would be to have prison officers carrying him up flights of stairs, onto and off the toilet. There probably would be some law that required the state to make the prison wheelchair friendly as well.

So this is probably the only option left open..

sonny.knowles · 19-11-2015 06:39PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Presumably the wheelchair will have a electronic tagging.

Or better still, electric shocking.

19-11-2015 06:39PM

Am I reading something wrong.

The 2 links say he was jailed, he went to Castlerea prison, sent home until Tuesdsy while they prepare a suitable cell in Dublin?

Edit - I read the second one first, think the first is more update. It seems extraordinary that he cannot be incarcerated.

Miaireland · 19-11-2015 06:42PM

ScumLord wrote: »

I would assume the jail simply isn't wheelchair accessible. The alternative would be to have prison officers carrying him up flights of stairs, onto and off the toilet. There probably would be some law that required the state to make the prison wheelchair friendly as well.

So this is probably the only option left open..

Let the prisoners adapt an area of the prison into a wheelchair friendly section. Given his crime it would be likely that he would be serving his sentance in the protection section of the jail(from what I see on tv shows anyway) so would be spending 23 hours a day in his cell anyway. Surely they would be able to convert a ground floor cell and toilet for him.

ScumLord · 19-11-2015 06:43PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It seems extraordinary that he cannot be incarcerated.

But he is being incarcerated, it's just happening in his home.

marklazarcovic · 19-11-2015 06:48PM

ScumLord wrote: »

But he is being incarcerated, it's just happening in his home.

where he wont be eating prison food,will sleep in his own bed,hearing familiar sounds,smelling familiar smells,watching whatever he likes,with no lights out..perhaps browse the web ..whilst waiting for his Chinese to be delivered or something ...

disgusting.

ScumLord · 19-11-2015 06:50PM

marklazarcovic wrote: »

where he wont be eating prison food,will sleep in his own bed,hearing familiar sounds,smelling familiar smells,watching whatever he likes,with no lights out..perhaps browse the web ..whilst waiting for his Chinese to be delivered or something ...

disgusting.

You don't actually know any of that is true, you're just jumping to conclusions.

They could go in and strip the place out for all we know.

19-11-2015 06:50PM

ScumLord wrote: »

But he is being incarcerated, it's just happening in his home.

True. It just seems that prison would be appropriate, even the Court has said as much...but the prison service can't keep him.

Diamond Doll · 19-11-2015 06:51PM

Weird case.

I mean, if he's paraplegic, he's hardly likely to reoffend.

Not that being disabled should mean that he shouldn't be punished, but at the same time, the goal of incarceration should ideally primarily be rehabilitation, for the good of society. In his case, he isn't likely to be able to hurt anyone ever again.

So to me it would seem to make most sense to go for the cheapest possible option ... whether that's at home, or in a hospital, or adapting a prison cell for him. He's always going to be a prisoner in his own body anyways, so his physical location doesn't seem all that important.

sonny.knowles · 19-11-2015 06:52PM

ScumLord wrote: »

But he is being incarcerated, it's just happening in his home.

Take the wheelchair off him and lock him in a box room for 16 hrs a day and feed him carvery food. That'd be a start.

ScumLord · 19-11-2015 06:52PM

Miaireland wrote: »

Let the prisoners adapt an area of the prison into a wheelchair friendly section. Given his crime it would be likely that he would be serving his sentance in the protection section of the jail(from what I see on tv shows anyway) so would be spending 23 hours a day in his cell anyway. Surely they would be able to convert a ground floor cell and toilet for him.

Maybe that's possible, the government are skin flints though, I would assume they took the cheapest option. Medical grade equipment is horrendously expensive. They may be opening a can of worms by starting to make the jail wheelchair accessible.

Wabbit Ears · 19-11-2015 06:53PM

ScumLord wrote: »

You don't actually know any of that is true, you're just jumping to conclusions.

They could go in and strip the place out for all we know.

His secario is WAY more believable than yours

Harry Palmr · 19-11-2015 06:56PM

Shelton Abbey or Loughan House might be more chair appropriate.

19-11-2015 06:56PM

Diamond Doll wrote: »

Not that being disabled should mean that he shouldn't be punished, but at the same time, the goal of incarceration should ideally primarily be rehabilitation, for the good of society. In his case, he isn't likely to be able to hurt anyone ever again...

I don't think that's the goal of incarceration.

I'd prioritise punishment and the safety of society.

ScumLord · 19-11-2015 07:18PM

The other thing to take into account is the fact that his condition is already very difficult to live with. Living in a wheelchair is incredibly difficult. It takes a lot of effort to just avoid being uncomfortable all the time. Any reduction in his level of care is going to lead to all sorts of problems for him. Reduced care could even lead to him dying.

end of the road · 19-11-2015 07:59PM

marklazarcovic wrote: »

what kind of message does this send out ffs .. i dont care he's in a chair,he sexually assaulted a 13 yr old girl and ruined her life .

it doesn't send out any message. even sending him to jail wouldn't send out any message.

marklazarcovic wrote: »

look at the cost of it/QUOTE]

the cost of what.

marklazarcovic wrote: »

build a fckin bungalow in castlerea and stick him in that for a fraction of the cost

what are you on about? he's serving the sentence in his home. how would building a bungalow in castlerea and sticking him in that be for a fraction of the cost of him serving the sentence in his home? the reason he would be serving the sentence at home is the prisons are not able to cope with wheelchair bound people.

Canterelle · 19-11-2015 08:20PM

It's a weird one alright. Would probably cost taxpayer more to accommodate him in a prison, why should they just not leave him at his house for his sentence, with tagging to make sure he can go no further than the yard? Leave him responsible for his own care rather than catering to his needs? It's the fact that he could still have his usual social life that jars, as in people coming to see him, ordering takeaway, having a few drinks etc. Hard to know.

marklazarcovic · 19-11-2015 08:23PM

At least the bungalow would still be of use when he is released..he should b loosing his freedom..whatever he has remaining...

4 guards to watch him at his home..just for him.. He's a predatory scumbag..being in his chair does not lesson his crime .

LDN_Irish · 19-11-2015 08:24PM

I don't think he is able to have any visitors outside of visiting hours. I think they are aiming to make it exactly like prison but in his flat. From the first article:

"The prison service is deploying four prison officers to guard Davoren’s home every day – at a cost of around 1,600 euro per day before tax."

I don't think they'd bother with that if he is allowed to have people round, bringing him stuff etc. On another note, does anyone know if that means there will be 4 for the daytime and 4 for the night? Or 2 during the day and 2 during the night? Fairly handy number for the guards if is the latter. 400 euro to sit either inside or outside a wheelchair bound man's house for a shift.

Canterelle · 19-11-2015 08:31PM

LDN_Irish wrote: »

I don't think he is able to have any visitors outside of visiting hours. I think they are aiming to make it exactly like prison but in his flat. From the first article:

"The prison service is deploying four prison officers to guard Davoren’s home every day – at a cost of around 1,600 euro per day before tax."

I don't think they'd bother with that if he is allowed to have people round, bringing him stuff etc. On another note, does anyone know if that means there will be 4 for the daytime and 4 for the night? Or 2 during the day and 2 during the night? Fairly handy number for the guards if is the latter. 400 euro to sit either inside or outside a wheelchair bound man's house for a shift.

Ah ffs that's nearly 600k a year, surely there's a better solution?

Fratton Fred · 19-11-2015 08:33PM

ScumLord wrote: »

I would assume the jail simply isn't wheelchair accessible. The alternative would be to have prison officers carrying him up flights of stairs

Heaven forbid they might "drop" him.

_Whimsical_ · 19-11-2015 08:33PM

It's going to cost 2.2 million!
Quite frankly that is ridiculous.
In this day and age why can't they electronically tag him and put surveillance equipment in his home to monitor him remotely. That should cost only a fraction,would do the same job considering he is elderly and wheelchair bound so unlikely to be escaping and it would be sufficiently invasive to constitute a punishment.

marklazarcovic · 19-11-2015 08:42PM

also ,he committed these crimes whilst being in his chair...

FortuneChip · 19-11-2015 08:47PM

marklazarcovic wrote: »

waiting for his Chinese to be delivered or something ...

disgusting.

I think you're being unfair.
You don't even know where he's ordered it from, could be nice!

Hammer89 · 19-11-2015 08:48PM

Drive him out to the middle of nowhere, preferably a field. Lash a clamp on his wheel(s) and leave him there. And smear Marmite or dogsh*t on said clamp to limit the prospect of somebody trying to remove it.

Hammer89 · 19-11-2015 08:49PM

FortuneChip wrote: »

I think you're being unfair.
You don't even know where he's ordered it from, could be nice!

The cream of some young guy?

nxbyveromdwjpg · 19-11-2015 08:52PM

4 guards for a bloke in a wheelchair is bonkers

convicted paedophile gets to serve sentence at home as he's in a wheelchair

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