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Shootings in Paris - MOD NOTE UPDATED - READ OP

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  • #5012
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Reports the bomb was in an emergency vehicle to be driven into the stadium. Unconfirmed.

    Newstalk reported that the police have provided the info that it was in an emergency vehicle.


  • #5013
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,613 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    FalconGirl wrote: »
    Interior Ministry to hold a press conference shortly. Seems like it was a credible threat. :( bastards

    Stadium evacuated and match cancelled. Terrible.


  • #5014
    Stinicker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,099 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Ummmm... no... don't think I'll be watching any video you link. My laptop will need to be thoroughly cleaned after I clicked on your last link.

    Don't worry you have nothing to worry about, that website contains nothing only facts which you seem to find unsettling to your liberal world view. Your laptop on the other hand should have no problems.

    https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/thereligionofpeace.com


  • #5015
    fly_agaric
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,431 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    If it's illegal immigration then it's not an open door policy now is it.

    Take all the time you need to click on to that one, I can wait.

    Heh great semantics!
    Either way "Fortress Europe" is locked up tight as a sieve at the moment.

    European navies rescue people at sea and bring them ashore, while the poor "post-austerity" border countries waive them through to the wealthy North.

    As well as this immigration insanity cluster-fk, Europe's foreign policy in the ME is also a mess with no sign of anything positive on the horizon; the best idea "the leaders" have had about migration was to try and bribe Turkey and Africa to hold on to people that they don't want, who want to leave anyway! It's a scary time.


  • #5016
    Uncle Ben
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Uncle Ben


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Stadium evacuated and match cancelled. Terrible.

    Concert in Hannover now called off also and trains cancelled.


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  • #5017
    questionmark?
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,085 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    FalconGirl wrote: »
    Interior Ministry to hold a press conference shortly. Seems like it was a credible threat. :( bastards

    Just checked RTE there and they said it was called off due to a suspicious package but their was no threat? I know it's RTE so it may be completely wrong.


  • #5018
    ihatemyfish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭ihatemyfish


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    I'll ask them at the next Liberal Supporters of Extremism meeting.

    You seem to be an expert in what Daesh do and do not want so perhaps you can answer the posters straightforward question without a cringe worthy response trying to be funny.


  • #5019
    Mountainsandh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,705 ✭✭✭Mountainsandh


    Just thought I'd share a Twitter account I just read about.
    https://twitter.com/Raqqa_SL
    "Raqqa is being slaughtered silently/Syrian campaign against ISIS".

    They say they will report if any civilians are killed in the raids. So far, none.
    They actually enjoy the raids as women get a little bit more freedom while ISIS fighters are "running like rats". They get to feel the fresh air on their faces as no one is screaming at them to put on the veils.

    The article linking to that Twitter is here (in French) : http://www.20minutes.fr/monde/1732035-20151117-attentats-paris-population-raqqa-fief-daesh-vit-attente-bombardements?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook

    I'm French, living in Ireland, and I'm completely bewildered tbh.

    I agree and disagree with practically everything (that is not too extreme) on this thread.

    I want military action, but I understand how it's not good.
    I want European countries to close their borders, but I don't want innocent Muslims (and others) fleeing atrocities to be let down.
    I agree the values of tolerance and togetherness should be exercised to fight off extremism, but I have experienced the difficulties in that too, and I kind of think it's useless and prolongs the current situation.
    I want Muslims to react to extremists killing in the name of their own religion, I think it's first and foremost their business to deal with it, but I understand the fear and helplessness, and possible involvement of other nations.
    I want other nations to stop supplying ISIS, but I wonder would that be enough to extinguish them.

    This thread is informative at times, but I don't read it all as there are all these arguments dragging on and not helping much with the discussion, and then sometimes people present as facts things that I'm not quite sure anyone knows are facts (like who supports who, who's responsible for the creation of what).

    Seamus I'm very impressed about your post earlier about very targeted and limited military intervention on supplies... But I think it's too slow.

    I think I think (:o) that very precisely targeted military intervention is needed right now. After all, it's possible, right ? To keep it as tightly targeted on supplies and ISIS fighters as possible. Except the fighters are likely to keep a few civilians with them for PR the b@stards...

    On the Twitter Raqqa (civilians) account, they say the French bombings are very precise so far, they are more worried about Russia and others (for safety of civilians).

    Hope Putin doesn't go ruining it.

    Sorry for the long post. I'm confused.


  • #5020
    Stinicker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,099 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    Mesrine65 wrote: »
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_occupation_of_East_Timor#Invasion

    The East Timorese Genocide which was committed by Islamic Indonesian forces which wiped out over one third of the native East Timor Catholic population.


  • #5021
    thomasj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭thomasj


    questionmark? wrote:
    Just checked RTE there and they said it was called off due to a suspicious package but their was no threat? I know it's RTE so it may be completely wrong.

    questionmark? wrote:
    Just checked RTE there and they said it was called off due to a suspicious package but their was no threat? I know it's RTE so it may be completely wrong.

    People were let in after that package was cleared but the stadium was evacuated again


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  • #5022
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    Nodin wrote: »
    Bit odd seeing as I mentioned it in posts addressed to you last night on this thread.

    Care to get back to me on this ?
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=97760095&postcount=4762

    No. Now piss off.


  • #5023
    thomasj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭thomasj


    CNN saying the police chief told national broadcaster that there was plans for explosions


  • #5024
    KingBrian2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    Mountainsandh wrote: »
    Just thought I'd share a Twitter account I just read about.
    https://twitter.com/Raqqa_SL
    "Raqqa is being slaughtered silently/Syrian campaign against ISIS".

    They say they will report if any civilians are killed in the raids. So far, none.
    They actually enjoy the raids as women get a little bit more freedom while ISIS fighters are "running like rats". They get to feel the fresh air on their faces as no one is screaming at them to put on the veils.

    The article linking to that Twitter is here (in French) : http://www.20minutes.fr/monde/1732035-20151117-attentats-paris-population-raqqa-fief-daesh-vit-attente-bombardements?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook

    I'm French, living in Ireland, and I'm completely bewildered tbh.

    I agree and disagree with practically everything (that is not too extreme) on this thread.

    I want military action, but I understand how it's not good.
    I want European countries to close their borders, but I don't want innocent Muslims (and others) fleeing atrocities to be let down.
    I agree the values of tolerance and togetherness should be exercised to fight off extremism, but I have experienced the difficulties in that too, and I kind of think it's useless and prolongs the current situation.
    I want Muslims to react to extremists killing in the name of their own religion, I think it's first and foremost their business to deal with it, but I understand the fear and helplessness, and possible involvement of other nations.
    I want other nations to stop supplying ISIS, but I wonder would that be enough to extinguish them.

    This thread is informative at times, but I don't read it all as there are all these arguments dragging on and not helping much with the discussion, and then sometimes people present as facts things that I'm not quite sure anyone knows are facts (like who supports who, who's responsible for the creation of what).

    Seamus I'm very impressed about your post earlier about very targeted and limited military intervention on supplies... But I think it's too slow.

    I think I think (:o) that very precisely targeted military intervention is needed right now. After all, it's possible, right ? To keep it as tightly targeted on supplies and ISIS fighters as possible. Except the fighters are likely to keep a few civilians with them for PR the b@stards...

    On the Twitter Raqqa (civilians) account, they say the French bombings are very precise so far, they are more worried about Russia and others (for safety of civilians).

    Hope Putin doesn't go ruining it.

    Sorry for the long post. I'm confused.

    The reason why everyone dislikes the Assad gvt is because his strikes are seen as imprecise and the bombing is impacting the civilian population. Yet nobody wants to help train his army (other than the Russians) or provide military support for him to take on the Jihadists.


  • #5025
    jackofalltrades
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭jackofalltrades


    wes wrote: »
    What policy exactly? Care to point out the policy? I am well aware of the definition, and that is all you have provided and 0 evidence of any such French policy of multi-cultirism.
    Everything I have read about France shows no such policy in existence.

    I see no promotion of any other culture except French culture. France doesn't have any such policy.
    The policy is promote French culture and see 0 evidence to suggest otherwise.
    Calm down, I was posting the definition in case you were using a different definition.
    I've never claimed France had an multi-cultural policies, so no I'm not going to be providing any evidence of them.


  • #5026
    MPFGLB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    Woman on Channel 4 now Hirsi Ali speaking quite intelligently about reforming Islam
    Channel 4 presenter saying its a insult to Muslims

    Even the Catholic church reformed several times ....

    Why can't Islam and Isalm leader look at changing and taking some of he violence out of the doctrine

    Why anyone would want to build their life on the word of one man from hundreds of years ago is beyond me....madness

    Same with all religions


  • #5027
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    MPFGLB wrote: »
    Why can't Islam and Isalm leader look at changing and taking some of he violence out of the doctrine

    Because they don't want to. Because they don't care about or sympathise with extremists.


  • #5028
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Saipanne wrote: »
    No. Now piss off.

    Congratulations on coming full circle.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=97760095&postcount=4762


  • #5029
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    Nodin wrote: »
    Congratulations on coming full circle.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=97760095&postcount=4762

    OK, comic book guy.


  • #5030
    Hande hoche!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,949 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    The reason why everyone dislikes the Assad gvt is because his strikes are seen as imprecise and the bombing is impacting the civilian population. Yet nobody wants to help train his army (other than the Russians) or provide military support for him to take on the Jihadists.

    Seems like the Russians are increasing the tempo of their airstrikes.
    http://theaviationist.com/2015/11/17/russian-tu-22s-joined-the-syria-air-war/


  • #5031
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    MPFGLB wrote: »
    Woman on Channel 4 now Hirsi Ali speaking quite intelligently about reforming Islam
    Channel 4 presenter saying its a insult to Muslims

    Even the Catholic church reformed several times ....

    Why can't Islam and Isalm leader look at changing and taking some of he violence out of the doctrine

    Why anyone would want to build their life on the word of one man from hundreds of years ago is beyond me....madness

    Same with all religions


    There is no "Islamic church" per se and there is certainly no leader. The Shia have different arrangements to them, but certainly the Sunni are a body of believers with scholars and so on - there isn't really a church like much of Protestantism let alone Catholicism.


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  • #5032
    MPFGLB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    Saipanne wrote: »
    Because they don't want to. Because they don't care about or sympathise with extremists.

    What you want and what is for the better good are not the same

    And just saying you don't agree with extremists (when they do) is not enough

    Everything needs ot evolve including religion (especially if written hundreds of years ago)


  • #5033
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    Hande hoche! wrote: »
    Seems like the Russians are increasing the tempo of their airstrikes.
    http://theaviationist.com/2015/11/17/russian-tu-22s-joined-the-syria-air-war/

    Good. Putin knows how to deal.


  • #5034
    Uncle Ben
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Uncle Ben


    Munsters game against Strade Francais called off in Paris.


  • #5035
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Saipanne wrote: »
    OK, comic book guy.

    Unfortunately its not comic, given that there are numbers of people like you who have made up their minds and will not have them changed. Nor is that attitude uniquely deployed against muslims, or new to the world.


  • #5036
    IrishTrajan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭IrishTrajan


    Nodin wrote: »
    Congratulations on coming full circle.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=97760095&postcount=4762

    It's a little bewildering when you constantly refer people to statements you've made, as if though it is some stick to beat them over the head with in arguments, yet you regularly dodge questions and refuse to answer them yourself.


  • #5037
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    Nodin wrote: »
    Unfortunately its not comic, given that there are numbers of people like you who have made up their minds and will not have them changed. Nor is that attitude uniquely deployed against muslims, or new to the world.

    It's hard to change my mind about Islam, when everything I predict comes true. I hope to be wrong, in the future. I really hope I'm wrong.


  • #5038
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,613 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    MPFGLB wrote: »
    Woman on Channel 4 now Hirsi Ali speaking quite intelligently about reforming Islam
    Channel 4 presenter saying its a insult to Muslims

    Even the Catholic church reformed several times ....

    Why can't Islam and Isalm leader look at changing and taking some of he violence out of the doctrine

    Why anyone would want to build their life on the word of one man from hundreds of years ago is beyond me....madness

    Same with all religions

    Muslims believe the Quran as revealed to Muhammad is the actual literal word of Allah. And as Allah is perfect it cannot be changed or amended. For Muslims the Quran is prefection.


  • #5039
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    IrishTrajan wrote: »
    It's a little bewildering when you constantly refer people to statements you've made, ...............


    If you were following the discussion, you'd see the point.


  • #5040
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,925 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    The reason why everyone dislikes the Assad gvt is because his strikes are seen as imprecise and the bombing is impacting the civilian population. Yet nobody wants to help train his army (other than the Russians) or provide military support for him to take on the Jihadists.

    The reason everyone hates Assad is because he's an ally of Russia and Iran and an enemy of our good friends Saudi Arabia.

    Much easier to replace him with some shanty government that can be easily controlled. Especially since Iraq is now also an ally of Iran, and it wouldn't look too good having to go in and overthrow the 'democratic' shanty government that you've just installed.


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  • #5041
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Muslims believe the Quran as revealed to Muhammad is the actual literal word of Allah. And as Allah is perfect it cannot be changed or amended. For Muslims the Quran is prefection.

    Mohammed's method of spreading Islam also happens to be the same as IS. Of course this has nothing to do with Islam. Or something.


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