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saranac1 · 14-11-2015 08:18PM

Willfarman wrote: »

They are heavy enough if they are fat enough. Look between front legs for a full rounded brisket.

Any other signs

bogman_bass · 14-11-2015 09:10PM

saranac1 wrote: »

Any other signs

Cover of fat on the ribs and around the tail head

Willfarman · 14-11-2015 09:14PM

Tail head and ribs. On traditional breeds if the brisket is full then the they are fat enough I find. Tail head will be starting to round but if getting lumps your in bother. On continental you need to look at tail head and judge all in. On real good u grade heifers you need to look at ribs as well.

Robson99 · 14-11-2015 09:58PM

Willfarman wrote: »

Tail head and ribs. On traditional breeds if the brisket is full then the they are fat enough I find. Tail head will be starting to round but if getting lumps your in bother. On continental you need to look at tail head and judge all in. On real good u grade heifers you need to look at ribs as well.

Always find good u grade continental heifers can take plenty of feeding without worrying about getting fat. Always try and get them to 4- here if possible as I believe you have near maximised weight gain at that stage.
Traditional breeds can get fat very quickly imo

mf240 · 14-11-2015 11:20PM

Cattle tend to go up a grade if well finished too.

I know with plain friesans if you dont have plenty of flesh youll have lots of ps

Willfarman · 15-11-2015 12:10AM

mf240 wrote: »

Cattle tend to go up a grade if well finished too.

I know with plain friesans if you dont have plenty of flesh youll have lots of ps

Well a half grade! But yes you want a pillow over the tail of the friesians to get fair play on the grading. A lot of big under fleshed over 30 moth types appearing in marts in these parts over last month.. 635kg March 13 635 lads 1060. They same cattle were worth that last May? Worth a punt methinks if a lad had facilities.

bogman_bass · 15-11-2015 12:23AM

Willfarman wrote: »

Tail head and ribs. On traditional breeds if the brisket is full then the they are fat enough I find. Tail head will be starting to round but if getting lumps your in bother. On continental you need to look at tail head and judge all in. On real good u grade heifers you need to look at ribs as well.

I fine HE heifers can put fat on the ail head quicker than elsewhere. Often had one look like a 5 round the tailhead and come in as a 4- on the hook

Cassidy2 · 16-11-2015 10:57PM

Well lads all the chat at weekend was there where pulling cows.did it happen

RobinBanks · 16-11-2015 11:41PM

Where is the best price for U+ plus cows at the min. I have 1 lim fit for killing and 1 blue a couple of weeks away. Both are up on 900kg. The last report I seen showed that ballyhaunis was quoting 3.70 and ashbourne 3.80.

Ballyhaunis is reasonably close to me but Ashbourne isn't. Wonder do they have any agents in north mayo.

whelan2 · 17-11-2015 07:21AM

sent a few to factory yesterday, a 14 year old angus cow. A 24 month old pb angus heifer - had a peg leg and not suitable to breed with- and a 2 yo angus x bullock that never grew. Had 3 calls from factory yesterday evening, thought there was something wrong with one of them. They wanted to know if my dad was QA , he didnt bother anymore as he would be sending very few eligible animals to factory, so he is getting 3.90 rather than 4.00 for the heifer. she graded u. Will post up what they made when we get it. Sent an old fr cow last week that did the splits many times, straight from parlour, got 450 euro for her, better than having to pay the knackery

simx · 17-11-2015 11:13AM

Cassidy2 wrote: »

Well lads all the chat at weekend was there where pulling cows.did it happen

Surely did, 3.30 o&p cows now

tanko · 17-11-2015 11:25AM

simx wrote: »

Surely did, 3.30 o&p cows now

Heard 3.40 for R's, do you see any chance of an improvement in cow prices before Xmas?

simx · 17-11-2015 11:55AM

tanko wrote: »

Heard 3.40 for R's, do you see any chance of an improvement in cow prices before Xmas?

Better off in the mart than 3.40 for rs I'd say, maybe but mightn't be anything to hectic, lot of lads drying off now/weaning throwing cows at factories

orm0nd · 17-11-2015 12:09PM

RobinBanks wrote: »

Where is the best price for U+ plus cows at the min. I have 1 lim fit for killing and 1 blue a couple of weeks away. Both are up on 900kg. The last report I seen showed that ballyhaunis was quoting 3.70 and ashbourne 3.80.

Ballyhaunis is reasonably close to me but Ashbourne isn't. Wonder do they have any agents in north mayo.

saw a MO reg double in ashbourme a couple of times, ring the factory and ask

Cavanjack · 18-11-2015 09:15AM

Anything better than €3.90 and €4 to be got for steers and heifers?

dryan · 18-11-2015 09:53AM

Cavanjack wrote: »

Anything better than €3.90 and €4 to be got for steers and heifers?

have a few steers ready, quoted 3.90 with a cut over 420 kg carcass.
Midlands.

whelan2 · 18-11-2015 04:21PM

aa heifer was 336kg graded u4 at 4.02e/kg 1351 euro
aa cow 352kg o4 3.1e/kg 1092 euro

barnaman · 18-11-2015 09:41PM

No, spoke 2 agents today prices holding this week and next. Cows trade completly dead cannot get culls in.

Cassidy2 · 18-11-2015 09:53PM

barnaman wrote: »

No, spoke 2 agents today prices holding this week and next. Cows trade completly dead cannot get culls in.

Imo keep feeding cows till next year.the bad milk price is making a complete joke of the cow trade

tanko · 18-11-2015 09:57PM

Was in a mart yesterday, cull cow prices were through the floor. Heavy cows selling for 1.45 to 1.55 €/kg.

mf240 · 18-11-2015 10:05PM

tanko wrote: »

Was in a mart yesterday, cull cow prices were through the floor. Heavy cows selling for 1.45 to 1.55 €/kg.

They would be better buying than wealings if ya had the sheds to suit.

Cassidy2 · 18-11-2015 10:07PM

tanko wrote: »

Was in a mart yesterday, cull cow prices were through the floor. Heavy cows selling for 1.45 to 1.55 €/kg.

Was that ballyduff .big player of buying cows has left the scene

tanko · 18-11-2015 10:16PM

Cassidy2 wrote: »

Was that ballyduff .big player of buying cows has left the scene

Yeah, Ballyduff alrite. He hasn't been around for a month or so now. Is there any chance he might reappear soon?

Cassidy2 · 18-11-2015 10:20PM

tanko wrote: »

Yeah, Ballyduff alrite. He hasn't been around for a month or so now. Is there any chance he might reappear soon?

No.was that price for a r grading cow

tanko · 18-11-2015 10:34PM

Cassidy2 wrote: »

No.was that price for a r grading cow

Yeah, R grade continentals.
Blue x 09 cow 736kgs €1150,
Black lim 12 738kgs €1080,
Super bbx 09 cow 672kgs €1080,
Bbx 11 684kgs €1035,
BWH 11 716 kgs €1020,
Chx 11 634kgs €950

FR 05 742kgs €950
FR 03 612kgs €550

Cassidy2 · 18-11-2015 10:55PM

tanko wrote: »

Yeah, R grade continentals.
Blue x 09 cow 736kgs €1150,
Black lim 12 738kgs €1080,
Super bbx 09 cow 672kgs €1080,
Bbx 11 684kgs €1035,
BWH 11 716 kgs €1020,
Chx 11 634kgs €950

FR 05 742kgs €950
FR 03 612kgs €550

There is value there

Willfarman · 18-11-2015 10:58PM

Pucks of cheap hay about.. Jays us if I had facilities I'd be gambling a few of them aul ladies for to graze next early summer.

sonnybill · 21-11-2015 01:20AM

any improvement on the cull cows? Ive a small FR x JE to go.. she will never be worth much a bad P.. fed up looking at her and have to keep her on her own as I) will put prolapse out rising on others if bulling and II) will let any calf suck her

limo_100 · 21-11-2015 12:58PM

Cassidy2 wrote: »

Was that ballyduff .big player of buying cows has left the scene

Why did he quit buying cows there did they fall out or he quit the cows??

FarmerDougal · 21-11-2015 04:06PM

Price being pulled in next 2 weeks

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