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Shootings in Paris - MOD NOTE UPDATED - READ OP

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  • #1742
    Grayditch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    Eoin247 wrote: »
    Compared to what species?

    The Midi-chlorians, mate.


  • #1743
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." Martin Luther King


  • #1744
    Jayop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,377 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    JeffKenna wrote: »
    Would the life of your son be more important to you than the life of a random kid?

    I'd say you're a sick person bit id probably get another warning or a ban.

    Naturally a man's kids are the most important things to him but do I think my children are worth more than someone else's just because they were lucky enough to be born in Ireland? Do I ****.


  • #1745
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    They do the same for many big events, it really is a lot better than getting your news from the mainstream media who are often slow or too quick to provide wrong info.

    Plus they really learned their lesson after the Boston Marathon fiasco.


  • #1746
    Jimoslimos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    BoJack Horseman wrote: »
    You may have never been to an RC mass, but most of us probably have been to one or two.

    It may be a shock to notice that all of its scripture sourced contents are that from the New Testament... all readings, all letters.
    ergo, the teachings of Christ & the writings of his followers.

    So again.... please quote something from the teachings of Christ (the guy who founded the whole shebang), that can be interpreted as a call to murder?


    thanks
    You do also know that Catholics aren't supposed to interpret meanings from the Bible (Old or New T). That is the job of the Church. Most of the "homosexuality is a sin" stuff came from the OT - didn't stop the Catholic Church incorporating it in its teachings.

    Anyways back on topic, religion (as much as I don't like it) isn't responsible for these horrible attacks, religious extremism is. Singling out groups en-masse because of a shared religion is likely to drive those people towards extremism.


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  • #1747
    Eoin247
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Eoin247


    Gatling wrote: »
    Every other species .

    You gotta be kidding me. There's a reason people call ISIS animals, because the animal kingdom is ****ing horrible.


  • #1748
    Peist2007
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Peist2007


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    That's odd since ISIS already exists since the late 90's, be it under the flag of Al Qaeda.

    I really wish apologists would stop blaming everything on the big bad west.

    Nobody is forcing them to kill innocent civilians. If you act like this you're a purely evil person, that is all that matters.

    Correct, it is all that matters.

    But I never said ISIS didnt exist prior to 2003. I said 2003, and its subsequent clusterfk which continues right up to present day, is what has led to the massacre that has taken place tonight. Unless you can show me an ISIS/AL Qui'ada massacre in a western european capital prior to 2003? Since then we have had Madrid, London, Paris and Paris. All Muslim extremists. All pp1ssed off at their countries being used as resource hubs by western powers. It should be self-evident really.


  • #1749
    Isaiah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 300 ✭✭Isaiah


    Ol' Donie wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure Himmler was a Catholic.

    Which should probably put these absurd generalisations where they belong.

    Himmler was a Nazi. An entirely different and opposite belief system to Christianity. Christians believe all men are equal for one. How does this fit in with the nazi superman?

    No person who believed in Nazism could be Christian. The two are opposing ideals.

    Nazism took more ideas from Hindusm than from Christiany.


  • #1750
    alwald
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭alwald


    Shelby Warm Escalator wrote:
    A life of an Irishman is more important to me than that of a Syrian. I thought this would be the case for everyone living here.


    A life is a life regardless of the location of the person, a life is the most precious thing on earth.


  • #1751
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,508 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Question: what exactly does Frances closed borders involve?


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  • #1752
    Rhys Essien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    Gavlor wrote: »
    Could this be a world changing event? France will probably force Europe into more stringent border controls.

    Quite frankly, despite whether or Not UK/US have influenced ISIS I think it's time for the west to either take control or allow the Mid East implode from within

    If its more home grown terrorism,what do you do?


  • #1753
    0byme75341jo28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭0byme75341jo28


    Jayop wrote: »
    To me that's disgusting.

    What about the life of a Syrian 3 year old? Is an Irish kid more valuable than that?

    Yes, definitely.


  • #1754
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Fleawuss wrote: »
    Hitler. Roman Catholic. Once you're in you're in.

    and the then pope was quite a fan too


  • #1755
    XR3i
    Site Banned Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭XR3i


    Angela Merkel, chancellor of Germany:

    "I am deeply shaken by the news and pictures that are reaching us from Paris. My thoughts in these hours are with the victims of what appears to be a terrorist attack, as well as with their relatives and all people in Paris," she said in a statement. "The German government is in contact with the French government and has passed on a message of sympathy and solidarity from the German people,"


    stick it up your hole merkel


  • #1756
    BoatMad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,506 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    BoJack Horseman wrote: »
    What Fire & death?

    France are working hard against islamism in Mali/Niger & Chad/CAR & Iraq when they can.

    Its as much as they can do, and in the grand scheme of things its not a whole lot.

    There will be no 'awakening'.... mostly because politicians don't want that, but also because they cannot act all guns blazing anyway, the ability is not really there.

    Western military might is simply immeasurably powerful in comparison to its enemies. It will now concentrate its mind on removing ISIL from the planet. The west could militarily run from one end of Syria to the other , in a week of it wanted too


  • #1757
    GT_TDI_150
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,917 ✭✭✭✭GT_TDI_150


    Jayop wrote: »
    To me that's disgusting.

    What about the life of a Syrian 3 year old? Is an Irish kid more valuable than that?

    To me yes, my irish kids are more valuable than a syrian 3 yr old. But to me they are also more valuable than my neighbours 5kids...


  • #1758
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Sky news just now squashing the rumours of gun fire near the louvre that they've been looking for clarification on for the last 2 hours.


  • #1759
    Sand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    alwald wrote: »
    A life is a life regardless of the location of the person, a life is the most precious thing on earth.

    "Our" lives have always been more important than "their" lives. The definition of who "we" are and who "they" are has changed over time, but its naive to say lives are considered equally precious. It has always been better him than me.


  • #1760
    Mountainsandh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,705 ✭✭✭Mountainsandh


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    They do the same for many big events, it really is a lot better than getting your news from the mainstream media who are often slow or too quick to provide wrong info.

    I know it's not really appropriate, but I can't seem to find info on what band were playing in Bataclan ? I'm just really skimming various French news outlets online and don't really know how to find my way around reddit.


  • #1761
    Take Your Pants Off
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭Take Your Pants Off


    Old Jakey wrote: »
    Fuck Islam. Tell me why I should respect this backward religion that hates me and my way of life?

    Mod: banned

    ''The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.''
    -Wayne Dyer


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  • #1762
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Going to bed now God only knows what I will wake up to in the morning


  • #1763
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Gatling wrote: »
    Every other species .

    Man will never live in peace we couldn't do it in the past ,can't do it in the present and we certainly won't live in peace in the future

    Sadly that is the negative side of evolution.


  • #1764
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Deleted User wrote: »
    But their ancestors were not French, they were descendent of migrants who had not assimilated into French culture.

    Good point. Closing the borders to Muslims can't save us. We/They need to do more to assimilate French people into French culture.

    Closing borders to coreligionists to 'stem the flow' is likely to be counterproductive to that goal.


  • #1765
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Police are now reporting:

    all the known assailants have been neutralised.


  • #1766
    Peist2007
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Peist2007


    Shelby Warm Escalator wrote: »
    Yes, definitely.

    We are all human. Your attitude is what divides and leads to hell like tonight.


  • #1767
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Shelby Warm Escalator wrote: »
    A life of an Irishman is more important to me than that of a Syrian..
    Wow.


    Just fucking wow.


  • #1768
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    That's odd since ISIS already exists since the late 90's, be it under the flag of Al Qaeda.

    I really wish apologists would stop blaming everything on the big bad west.

    Nobody is forcing them to kill innocent civilians. If you act like this you're a purely evil person, that is all that matters.

    Once again somebody equates trying to understand what drives this ideology and offer solutions to get of it with being an "apologist".

    Where did I say that anything that happened tonight wasn't a vile and unspeakably evil act? Can you show me where I said that? I simply said that if we force our governments to get the f*ck out of the Middle East and stop meddling in other countries' internal affairs, there will be fewer people who hate us as a society. That's all. It's not about apology, it's about a pragmatic solution to this nightmare.


  • #1769
    buried
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭buried


    yeah more war, that will sort it out. just like its been sorting it out the last 100 years. one or 5 more years of more war will definitely end all war for all eternity

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • #1770
    Gbear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    Deleted User wrote: »
    That's a bit like saying the Catholics =/= Christians!

    :confused:

    Ah here. Come on now. It's not that bloody complicated.

    They're really basic words, in all fairness.

    Islam is an ideology, like Scientology or Catholicism.

    A Muslim is an individual. Muslims are a group of people.

    You can take an idea to the cleaners all day long - you won't hurt an abstract concept's feelings.


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  • #1771
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    BoatMad wrote: »
    Western military might is simply immeasurably powerful in comparison to its enemies. It will now concentrate its mind on removing ISIL from the planet. The west could militarily run from one end of Syria to the other , in a week of it wanted too

    Reminds me of the Bosnian conflict.

    The West pissed around with the Bosnian Serbs for 4 years and within one week of the Market mortar attacks in 1995, they'd bombed the Serbs away from Sarajevo thus breaking the siege. In a couple of days.


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