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Shootings in Paris - MOD NOTE UPDATED - READ OP

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  • #1712
    buried
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭buried


    Grayditch wrote: »
    Blame whoever you like, but we're an absolutely disgraceful species on the whole.

    Find the latin for all of that statement and put it on the universal crest of humanity

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • #1713
    BoJack Horseman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,247 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    Peist2007 wrote: »
    I dont remember too many Muslim terrorists running amok in European capitals prior to "shock and awe" time in 2003..


    plenty of sh*t went down back in the day.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks[/url]


  • #1714
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Shelby Warm Escalator wrote: »
    Millions of Muslims are streaming into Europe, you'd be a fool to think this sort of thing is going to become any less common in the future.
    We don't know where the perpetrators of tonight's massacre came from yet, but if you look back at the Charlie Hebdo perpetrators, they were French citizens born and raised in France.


  • #1715
    Eoin247
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Eoin247


    Grayditch wrote: »
    Blame whoever you like, but we're an absolutely disgraceful species on the whole.

    Compared to what species?


  • #1716
    Jayop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,377 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Shelby Warm Escalator wrote: »
    A life of an Irishman is more important to me than that of a Syrian. I thought this would be the case for everyone living here.

    To me that's disgusting.

    What about the life of a Syrian 3 year old? Is an Irish kid more valuable than that?


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  • #1717
    Rhys Essien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    153 innocent people murdered in a western European city

    Dont forget 191 died in the Madrid train bombings and that lunatic in Norway killed 77.

    There were 1500 people at the concert tonight.These fcukers could have wiped out the whole theatre.


  • #1718
    Fleawuss
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Fleawuss


    Isaiah wrote: »
    Stalin - 40 million+ killed. Atheist.

    Hitler. Roman Catholic. Once you're in you're in.


  • #1719
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    The rest may be tangential but these events are certainly connected to the USA and the foreign policy of other EU countries so entirely relevant to the discussion. It is absolutely imperative to keep this event in context especially since it is probable that the hard won good will towards the Syrian refugees will be in jeopardy after today because of ignorance and fear.

    You're dreaming if you think there is a lot of Good Will towards the Syrian refugees.

    Even on the Guardian CiF boards, the vast majority don't want them in Europe.


  • #1720
    Lovely Bloke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    Phoebas wrote: »
    We don't know where the perpetrators of tonight's massacre came from yet, but if you look back at the Charlie Hebdo perpetrators, they were French citizens born and raised in France.

    Radicalised by immigrants.


  • #1721
    kleefarr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Shelby Warm Escalator wrote: »
    A life of an Irishman is more important to me than that of a Syrian. I thought this would be the case for everyone living here.

    The life of a good person means more to me than that of a bad person.
    I have no borders as far as good people go.


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  • #1722
    Jayop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,377 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    gctest50 wrote: »
    all the f****g same

    The victims included people from many backgrounds:

    Protestants, Catholics,
    a Mormon teenager
    five other teenagers
    six children
    a woman pregnant with twins

    The last one from omagh?

    Again not the Ira but do carry on.


  • #1723
    BoatMad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,506 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    Oh the reign of western fire and death that will reign down in Syria , ISIL should heed this famous saying ....

    "I fear all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant, and filled him with a terrible resolve.""


  • #1724
    JeffKenna
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,738 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    Jayop wrote: »
    To me that's disgusting.

    What about the life of a Syrian 3 year old? Is an Irish kid more valuable than that?

    Would the life of your son be more important to you than the life of a random kid?


  • #1725
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The people operating the live thread on Reddit are doing tremendous work.


  • #1726
    Gatling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Eoin247 wrote: »
    Compared to what species?

    Every other species .

    Man will never live in peace we couldn't do it in the past ,can't do it in the present and we certainly won't live in peace in the future
    360_F_102352090_ie3kLjDIvgrT1sxVDknWCUh8PxgMYzM7.jpg




  • #1727
    Ol' Donie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,779 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    Shelby Warm Escalator wrote: »
    A life of an Irishman is more important to me than that of a Syrian. I thought this would be the case for everyone living here.

    Nope.

    Not for a second.


  • #1728
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Baldy Conscience wrote: »
    Radicalised by immigrants.
    Well that is a cop out.


  • #1729
    moc moc a moc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭moc moc a moc


    mickmackey1 wrote: »
    When you consider that Hitler and Napoleon were atheists, it really takes some neck for atheists to throw mud.

    If Hitler killed people in the name of atheism, you might have a point.


  • #1730
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Sever Tomorrow wrote: »
    Oh, I see it. I can also see your inability to distinguish Islam from the people who choose to practice it.
    This comment makes absolutely no sense.


  • #1731
    Filmer Paradise
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Filmer Paradise


    Grayditch wrote: »
    Blame whoever you like, but we're an absolutely disgraceful species on the whole.

    No. Only a few rotten apples in the barrel.

    The problem was that they weren't dealt with years ago.

    Just take out the ringleaders & don't be fussy about how you do it.


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  • #1732
    Fleawuss
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Fleawuss


    Phoebas wrote: »
    We don't know where the perpetrators of tonight's massacre came from yet, but if you look back at the Charlie Hebdo perpetrators, they were French citizens born and raised in France.

    Both legally and factually correct but in reality, untrue. There's the problem: you can be born and raised in Western Europe but mentally be the slave of a version of a crazed mid 7th century religion.


  • #1733
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 31,828 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Phoebas wrote: »
    they were French citizens born and raised in France.
    But their ancestors were not French, they were descendent of migrants who had not assimilated into French culture.


  • #1734
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    One World Trade Center in New York right now:

    CTvFXP7U8AAUySQ.jpg:large


  • #1735
    BoJack Horseman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,247 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    BoatMad wrote: »
    Oh the reign of western fire and death that will reign down in Syria , ISIL should heed this famous saying ....

    "I fear all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant, and filled him with a terrible resolve.""

    What Fire & death?

    France are working hard against islamism in Mali/Niger & Chad/CAR & Iraq when they can.

    Its as much as they can do, and in the grand scheme of things its not a whole lot.

    There will be no 'awakening'.... mostly because politicians don't want that, but also because they cannot act all guns blazing anyway, the ability is not really there.


  • #1736
    Gavlor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,202 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    Could this be a world changing event? France will probably force Europe into more stringent border controls.

    Quite frankly, despite whether or Not UK/US have influenced ISIS I think it's time for the west to either take control or allow the Mid East implode from within


  • #1737
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The people operating the live thread on Reddit are doing tremendous work.

    They do the same for many big events, it really is a lot better than getting your news from the mainstream media who are often slow or too quick to provide wrong info.


  • #1738
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    BoatMad wrote: »
    Oh the reign of western fire and death that will reign down in Syria , ISIL should heed this famous saying ....

    "I fear all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant, and filled him with a terrible resolve.""

    ISIS, Daesh whatever the hell know exactly what they are doing.

    Get the West to bomb the hell out of the region and if there are a few mishaps, such as an accidental bombing of a hospital full of innocent Muslims, they'll use it as a recruiting tool for more Western Muslim kids.


  • #1739
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Heavily armed police around Notre Dame cathedral

    https://i.imgur.com/8I0kJOV.jpg


  • #1740
    ihatemyfish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭ihatemyfish


    That_Guy wrote: »
    I'm such a fúcking monster for being open minded and accepting people into a historically multicultural society.

    Piss off.

    Rather be like that than feeding hate/racism and close mindedness against anyone who isn't "like us".


    We are seeing the results of our insane immigration policies, or lack thereof, come home to roost. It is not pretty. It is time to close the borders.


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  • #1741
    Lovely Bloke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    Hollande
    To all those who have seen these awful things, I want to say we are going to lead a war which will be pitiless.
    Because when terrorists are capable of committing such atrocities they must be certain that they are facing a determined France, a united France, a France that is together and does not let itself be moved, even if today we express infinite sorrow.

    Hope he lives up to his word on that one


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