Shootings in Paris - MOD NOTE UPDATED - READ OP

Junkyard Tom · 14-11-2015 12:42AM

super_furry wrote: »

At a certain point, you have to ask if Islam is compatible with life in a secular, western country.

Lights On wrote: »

The millions of Muslims living a normal life like every single one of us posting in this thread would say that yes it is..

Isaiah wrote: »

In their hearts they applaud these attacks.

This is one of the stupidest posts I've ever read on boards.

Congratulations.

Jawgap · 14-11-2015 12:42AM

Time was I thought Clare Daly had redeemed herself, now I realise I was mistaken.....

Her response to Wallace's tweet......the pair of them should be packed off somewhere.......

https://twitter.com/claredalytd/status/665299478740512768

CptMackey · 14-11-2015 12:42AM

efb wrote: »

This thread really shows up the right wing extremists

It also shows up the looney left. If they attacked here would you still support them ? Islam is a cancer and needs to be sorted out.

BoJack Horseman · 14-11-2015 12:42AM

c_man wrote: »

Normally I like to think of myself as a pacifist and all that. But maybe, just maybe, it's time to take the kid gloves off and properly deal with the Caliphate. We always hear about the obscene amounts spent on the military by NATO, Russia etc. Honestly who could object to a proper levelling of these guys?*

It's not that simple.

'The west' is militarily weaker now than it has been for decades

There is no such gung-ho, apocalyptic option.

Hachiko · 14-11-2015 12:42AM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Never cause for concern because there's a billion Muslims all around the world, and thus it's a small minority.

Does that rhetoric ever change ? When can we be worried ? When thousands die ? Tens of thousands ?

no other religion cause so much trouble globally, down to and including killing themselves and others in the process. I am happy to mingle with every race going and work in one of the most diverse workplaces in the UK btw.

Eugene Norman · 14-11-2015 12:42AM

My name is URL wrote: »

**** off to Moscow then if you you think that's true

That phrase has turned 180 degrees in a generation.

BG2.0 · 14-11-2015 12:42AM

iguana wrote: »

There are none. There are two regions of London with a non-White majority, Tottenham and (IIRC) Brixton. And the majority population in those two regions is Afro-Caribbean. There are regions with large numbers of Muslims but they are not the majority in any.

Nonsense, i live near st noets Cambs within 15minutes you will be in no go land, if you like it or not.

Harry Palmr · 14-11-2015 12:42AM

Good to see the media doing the right thing about reporting Bataclan events, of course social media may not be so responsible.

smash · 14-11-2015 12:42AM

Security forces now launching a first wave attack at the concert hall. Let's hope they take the fcukers out!

Gatling · 14-11-2015 12:43AM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Sorry, thats what I meant. Special forces / swat / etc.

I think they may be going in already. Alot of ambulances on the move.

They have two very capable police units that can do it along with the military

VinLieger · 14-11-2015 12:43AM

Hey mods this thread needs to be shut down, its getting disgusting

B.A._Baracus · 14-11-2015 12:43AM

Police have launched an assualt as of 5 minutes ago.
some hostages freed.

Jayop · 14-11-2015 12:43AM

Gatling wrote: »

More Muslims getting killed than non Muslims around the world

Most of them being killed by other Muslims.

Stinicker · 14-11-2015 12:43AM

That_Guy wrote: »

This is a seriously fúcked up way of thinking.

Sending those willing to integrate back to the places they were trying to get away from is just immoral and tars everyone with the same brush.

It's not, why can't our people live seperate to Muslims, let those Islamic State do what they want in their lands and Europeans in ours. European Colonisation was universally condemned and Islamic Colonisation (which is what this is) should be condemned too. The PC liberals are the fault of all this, people should stay in their own lands and Islam should be removed from any true western society.

Gatling · 14-11-2015 12:43AM

Jayop wrote: »

Most of them being killed by other Muslims.

Exactly

iguana · 14-11-2015 12:44AM

Gatling wrote: »

They might have to wait for military specialists on this one .
If they haven't already gone in

They have gone in according to eye-witness reports;
“It was carnage,” said Marc Coupris, 57, still shaking after being freed from the hostage-taking at the Bataclan concert venue. “It looked like a battlefield, there was blood everywhere, there were bodies everywhere. I was at the far side of the hall when shooting began. There seemed to be at least two gunmen. They shot from the balcony. Everyone scrabbled to the ground. I was on the ground with a man on top of me and another one beside me up against a wall. We just stayed still like that. At first we kept quiet. I don’t know how long we stayed like that, it seemed like an eternity. I saw my last final unfurl before me, I thought this was the end. I thought I’m finished, I’m finished. I was terrified. We must all have thought the same. Eventually, when a few gendarmes came in slowly we began to look up and there was blood absolutely everywhere. The police told us to run.”

Sand · 14-11-2015 12:44AM

c_man wrote: »

Normally I like to think of myself as a pacifist and all that. But maybe, just maybe, it's time to take the kid gloves off and properly deal with the Caliphate. We always hear about the obscene amounts spent on the military by NATO, Russia etc. Honestly who could object to a proper levelling of these guys?* Imagine the international good will that the "West" could earn by levelling their forces and sending every last Jihadi John to that eternal reward they so desperately seek.

*I mean of course except the slave states of Qatar, Saudi etc and the ISI in Pakistan who harboured Osama for so many years but their time will come.

There is no war where you only kill the really really really bad guys. Unfortunately or otherwise, once you start deploying actual soldiers trained and conditioned to be shock troops, with high tech weaponry a lot of people die. Hopefully *mostly* really really really bad guys.

But it is a far journey from being a convinced pacifist to being someone who is okay with a neutral term like "collateral damage".

efb · 14-11-2015 12:44AM

Why would we pray for Paris? If an omnipotent God allowed this to happen why would he intervene now??? That makes no sense

wakka12 · 14-11-2015 12:44AM

6 Locations attacked
Bataclan Concert Hall- 18 dead, up to 100 held hostage.
Stade De France - 3 dead, 3 suicide bombings
Le Petit Cambodge Restaurant - at least 10 dead many wounded
A Cafe in Rue De Charonne - 6 gunmen spotted in this location, unknown amount of fatalities
Le Carillon Bar was also attacked
A second restaurant was also attacked in a nearby location

Superhorse · 14-11-2015 12:44AM

Sand wrote: »

You want the Gardai to raid the mosque? But what if they used a baton on some innocent worshipper? Would you really want that sort of atrocity carried out in your name?

Hehe poor effort. 2/10

Mongfinder General · 14-11-2015 12:44AM

VinLieger wrote: »

Hey mods this thread needs to be shut down, its getting disgusting

Oh look, the thought police have arrived.

freddiek · 14-11-2015 12:44AM

the US/European invasion of the Muslim countries has left a terrible legacy.

coolhull · 14-11-2015 12:44AM

my friend wrote: »

the delusions stop now.

Politicians of Ireland act now.

And what do you think Arts Minister Heather Humphreys should do, exactly?

Jelle1880 · 14-11-2015 12:45AM

Gatling wrote: »

More Muslims getting killed than non Muslims around the world

Doesn't make a single difference to my point. I know they are more likely to kill other Muslims, but that is just another sentence that doesn't make a single difference when it comes to these scumbags.

'They kill more Muslims than Westerners', so ****ing what.

Uncle Ben · 14-11-2015 12:45AM

my friend wrote: »

call Joe Duffy Monday with that

Joe will be talking about service dogs or Malahide Xmas market. You won't get commentary from Rte about Isis terrorists. Just cuddly refugees only.

KingBrian2 · 14-11-2015 12:45AM

The world has experienced a spree of terrorist attacks. The Russian plane bombing. The Turkish bombing, the attacks in Latakia and Beirut and now in Paris. They are becoming a lot more bolder.

They have lost the fear of the big Nations and feel free to hit out at all targets they deem deserving of wrath. The sinister part is that following the bombing of the Russian plane their spokespeople were actually gloating.

They seem to get a buzz out of inflicting so much violence against innocent civilians. They have their own pirated television and radio stations so they are receiving cash from somewhere. Another fear is the whole affiliate term is being thrown around a lot lately, Affiliates of Al Qaeda, Affiliate of ISIS, Affiliates of Jihad. We seem to get a lot of these organisations cooperating with each other for the sole purpose of committing violence.

We have entered a new age where Islamists are using our technology against us. They are miles ahead of our security services. They use technology as an instrument of war as we did in the early 20th century only this time they deliberately harm innocent civilians instead of the military and like to project a religious dominated hierarchy that wants to control everyone. Scary guys all not far from the coast of Europe.

The dilemma facing Europe and the US is that we don't use our best instincts against what is a vicious movement. To much concessions to the hardline Islamists is what is weaken us and allowing us to play right into their hands. The funds keep going their way and Europe is not taking decisive action to cut off this flow of billions and personnel to the camps all across the countries these guys are located in.

dissed doc · 14-11-2015 12:45AM

c_man wrote: »

Normally I like to think of myself as a pacifist and all that. But maybe, just maybe, it's time to take the kid gloves off and properly deal with the Caliphate. We always hear about the obscene amounts spent on the military by NATO, Russia etc. Honestly who could object to a proper levelling of these guys?* Imagine the international good will that the "West" could earn by levelling their forces and sending every last Jihadi John to that eternal reward they so desperately seek.

*I mean of course except the slave states of Qatar, Saudi etc and the ISI in Pakistan who harboured Osama for so many years but their time will come.

do people in charge of NATO want a well educated free population? islam is the future, hitler was a big fan. oppress the unbelievers is the name of the game. you are an unbeliever. the "west" governmwnt does not represent the interests of the general population of the west.

Hachiko · 14-11-2015 12:45AM

BG2.0 wrote: »

Nonsense, i live near st noets Cambs within 15minutes you will be in no go land, if you like it or not.

In 20 years English, and English/Irish will be a minority race in the UK. If not sooner.

England has screwed up big time in migration control, the damage is long done.

Voltex · 14-11-2015 12:45AM

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

The USA was gone from Iraq by the time Daesh got started, they could have used any number of peaceful tactics to push their cause. Or they could have fought against the military only and not kill/rape/enslave civilian populations, they DID have choices but you're pushing that what they did was effectively pre-determined. You're coming very close to justifying what Daesh do, despite how vociferously you protest that you don't.

Now is not the time for that neo-liberal s hite talk. You are getting very close to justifying the actions of ISIS even though your trying to disguise your intent by using the pseudonym Daesh!!

Jawgap · 14-11-2015 12:45AM

efb wrote: »

Why would we pray for Paris? If an omnipotent God allowed this to happen why would he intervene now??? That makes no sense

Because it might give some small comfort to people who are worried / suffering.

I'm not religious, btw.

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