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Shootings in Paris - MOD NOTE UPDATED - READ OP

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  • #662
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,365 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    At a certain point, you have to ask if Islam is compatible with life in a secular, western country.


  • #663
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    This is bad news. Any country sitting on the fence will jump in now and ones that are aiding logistically will step up operations. I predict an all out war. Sad day.

    But an all out war against who? Who is the enemy?

    The problem is (in France) that they are the enemy within. They are the eneny embedded within the French population, so how do you hit them back? How do you contain them? How do you bring them to justice?

    My thoughts and prayers are with the French people tonight.


  • #664
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Strider wrote: »
    I think it's best to leave that to the experts actually on the scene, maybe people sitting behind a keyboard without a clue and calling for raids should shut up.
    Your right, experts are best. Like the security experts who didn't see any of this coming.


  • #665
    duckysauce
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭duckysauce


    Hande hoche! wrote: »
    Orban, La Pen and the rest will benefit from this.

    hope so


  • #666
    Witcher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,480 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    Orangebrigade wrote: »
    Some might survive, no one will if they do f*ck all.

    G'wan over so and boot the door in with your size 12's and lay them all low.


    FFS


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  • #667
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,400 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    chipsdave wrote: »
    Aine Ni Chonaill predicted this 10 years ago and to think She was dragged on The Late Late Show and branded a Racist by Gay Byrne and His Sheep Audience..
    chipsdave wrote: »
    Aine Ni Chonaill predicted this 15 years ago , yet She was brought on The Late Late Show and branded a Racist By Byrne and The Trendy set ( self perceived)

    I think its time for your hourly post now?

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #668
    Sever Tomorrow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 158 ✭✭Sever Tomorrow


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    It most certainly is a problem and those who engage in it are scumbags, but like the spate of mass shootings by young social outcasts in the US, it has a root cause which many simply refuse to acknowledge. The West treats the Middle East and the real, living human beings who live there as some kind of ant farm toy. Those who grow up in the West and are ethnically related to those people, however distantly, and see that on television are growing up in a world which they believe doesn't respect them as humans.

    If you make people feel like they're not respected as humans, they will not behave like humans. The exact same phenomenon is behind the mass shootings in US schools. They're perpetrated by people with a justified victim complex, and like it or not, Western civilisation needs to do something about that or this sh!t will keep happening.

    I await the hordes of eejits who will regard what I've posted as a defense of the terrorists: It's not. They're scumbags. I've said that before and I have no problem saying it again. But like anything undesirable, there are reasons it exists. And as uncomfortable as it may seem, the disgusting behaviour of our governments in the West is one of those reasons.

    To give you an analogy, nobody likes having a rat infestation but one of the root causes of that is bad hygiene, and that's something the homeowner is responsible for.

    I'm totally onside with this. I remember posting about Islamism before on After Hours and I acknowledged foreign policy (should have mentioned it in my last reply along with the other points)

    I agree with the views about Bush and Blairs war crimes. I hope to see Blair sent to the Hague at some point, can't see it happening to Bush unfortunately.


  • #669
    Gatling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Eoin247 wrote: »
    Uh... this is a discussion thread. If you don't like reading people's opinions and just want updates then go onto a news website.

    Delusional rants more suited than discussion and a dose of trolls
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  • #670
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    New York going onto a higher state of alert in response to the Paris attacks.


  • #671
    heyday30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭heyday30


    Very sad. RIP to those who lost their lives.
    Unnerving news for sure.


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  • #672
    North of 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭North of 32


    http://allpoetry.com/Libert-


  • #673
    Letree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭Letree


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Can this thread be closed, with only mods having access to posting news related to this? Otherwise it'll be the same pointless crap.

    Who are you to try and mod. If you don't like it leave.


  • #674
    Isaiah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 300 ✭✭Isaiah


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    49,204 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Ireland is not what I would call 'very few' - I would call it a massive potential '5th column'.

    I live in London mate, believe me Ireland is in the ha'penny place when it comes to Muslim's.

    We have entire towns which are 60-70% Muslim. Ireland should hold out against this tide while it still can.


  • #675
    Superhorse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 848 ✭✭✭Superhorse


    Deep Six wrote: »
    I think the civilised world needs to have a serious discussion around Islam and whether it can ever be welcome here. It's fine saying we can't tar brush an entire religion because of the actions of a few, but it's also the only religion which ever pops up during this type of event.

    They want us all dead, it's in their book. ISIS have massive support among ordinary Muslims a fact conveniently forgot by leftie liberal types.


  • #676
    Deep Six
    Closed Accounts Posts: 228 ✭✭Deep Six


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    A discussion would be only going through hoops of political correctness.
    The answer is clear, it cannot. We are well beyond medieval murderous brainwashing. We have nothing to gain by being in any way contaminated by it.

    A nuclear cleansing of Raqqa would be a good start.


  • #677
    Darkglasses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,527 ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    Orangebrigade wrote: »
    Some might survive, no one will if they do f*ck all.

    It may result in the deaths of a far greater number of civilians, police and army. Seriously, leave this to people who are trained and have experience in dealing with terrorism.


  • #678
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    GIGN are apparently storming Bataclan now.


  • #679
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    A suicide bomber at a football stadium in a city at the heart of Europe

    Sit back and think about that for a minute

    Game changer


  • #680
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Sand wrote: »
    Yeah, more than, you know, the actual people who created ISIS.

    So the law of cause and effect is something which is unfamiliar for you? Or you're just choosing to ignore it?


  • #681
    Witcher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,480 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Your right, experts are best. Like the security experts who didn't see any of this coming.

    Yes..because the police can read the minds of people who formulate these plans in secret and carry them out at the drop of a hat.


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  • #682
    One More Toy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,018 ✭✭✭One More Toy


    Not a racist not a racist


  • #683
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    super_furry wrote: »
    At a certain point, you have to ask if Islam is compatible with life in a secular, western country.

    What do we do?

    Start the mass internment and deportation of millions of Muslims who have settled here generations?

    Good luck with that.


  • #684
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    @mattmoorek: FWIW Charlie Hebdo attacks carried out by French citizens. Border controls are designed to stop perps fleeing. https://t.co/mqaMGJIAQ9


  • #685
    AbusesToilets
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,422 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    super_furry wrote: »
    At a certain point, you have to ask if Islam is compatible with life in a secular, western country.

    It clearly is not and never has been. You can't be a true believer and have views compatible with those of western societies. To pretend otherwise is madness.


  • #686
    LeBash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,697 ✭✭✭LeBash


    Superhorse wrote:
    Oh my fcuking god. Savages utter savages, Time to get the gloves off with these fcuking head hacking savages.


    Willing to get your camo?


  • #687
    my friend
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭my friend


    Gatling wrote: »
    What would you like them to do

    don't half quote me Richard


  • #688
    Superhorse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 848 ✭✭✭Superhorse


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Can this thread be closed, with only mods having access to posting news related to this? Otherwise it'll be the same pointless crap.

    Get the boat.


  • #689
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,668 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Hachiko wrote: »
    As an Irish guy in England I wonder how long before such things happen here, clearly there is a widespread global problem with Muslims and extremists. They are not normal beings.

    Last time I checked neither Blair nor Bush are Muslim.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • #690
    volchitsa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,186 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    Royal Irish wrote: »
    It was the Mormons. They'll stop at nothing until everyone believes in Joseph Smith :rolleyes:

    So you haven't heard about the Mormon wars then? :rolleyes:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_War

    Thing is, they lost. Only for that they might have got a taste for it, and America could now be a polygamist theocracy. Wouldn't that be interesting?

    "If a woman cannot stand in a public space and say, without fear of consequences, that men cannot be women, then women have no rights at all." Helen Joyce



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  • #691
    leavingirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭leavingirl


    RobertKK wrote: »
    New York going onto a higher state of alert in response to the Paris attacks.

    Just like on 911 :rolleyes:


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