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Shootings in Paris - MOD NOTE UPDATED - READ OP

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  • #572
    enfant terrible
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    leavingirl wrote: »
    And who benefits? Who wins?

    The Zionists

    Ah its the Jews fault, heard they have claws too.


  • #573
    The Sun King
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭The Sun King


    "This is for Syria."


  • #574
    Isaiah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 300 ✭✭Isaiah


    Deleted User wrote: »
    On. Every. Single. Such. Incident, though?

    Is it really needed? Didn't solve anything the first time. Or the second time. Or etc. etc. Won't solve anything now, except to give an opportunity for people to spout their uninformed vitriolic racist opinions and to have the same arguments over and over and over.

    The same thing after a gun shooting in America.

    Guns are bad. Guns are good. You're wrong. You're wrong. No, you're wrong.

    Terrorists. Muslims are bad. Emigration is bad. Tighter controls. Rabble rabble rabble.

    Change the record.

    My first time posting on such an issue, and I never posted on the guns arguement.

    This is the first record for me pal and I am as entitled to voice my opinion as you are.

    Islam is not a race. It's a doctrine.


  • #575
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    BoJack Horseman wrote: »
    Thats what I would have thought.

    These guys are not in it for a negotiated settlement.... they worship death.

    the building should have been stormed as soon as forces capable were on the scene...

    Storm the building.

    The Russians did the same at the Opera House in Moscow years ago with the Chechens.

    Hostages may die, but you'll save some at least.

    If they leave it too late, there will be no-one to save.


  • #576
    NomadicGray
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭NomadicGray


    Cahit Storm Retweeted
    Anne Bayefsky ‏@AnneBayefsky 10m10 minutes ago
    CNN: Hostages texting that they are being killed 1-by-1. Begging for police raid.

    Terrifying


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  • #577
    crazygeryy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭crazygeryy


    hmmm wrote: »
    I don't normally say things like this, but what a ****er he is.

    True.talk about bad timing.hes a moron.


  • #578
    123balltv
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭123balltv


    Everyday people doing normal stuff heartbreaking :mad:


  • #579
    P_1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    If this attack is as coordinated at it seems then the Bataclan is presumably rigged with explosives. The scum are obvoiusly taunting a storming and a greater massacre


  • #580
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    It most certainly is a problem and those who engage in it are scumbags, but like the spate of mass shootings by young social outcasts in the US, it has a root cause which many simply refuse to acknowledge. The West treats the Middle East and the real, living human beings who live there as some kind of ant farm toy. Those who grow up in the West and are ethnically related to those people, however distantly, and see that on television are growing up in a world which they believe doesn't respect them as humans.

    If you make people feel like they're not respected as humans, they will not behave like humans. The exact same phenomenon is behind the mass shootings in US schools. They're perpetrated by people with a justified victim complex, and like it or not, Western civilisation needs to do something about that or this sh!t will keep happening.

    I await the hordes of eejits who will regard what I've posted as a defense of the terrorists: It's not. They're scumbags. I've said that before and I have no problem saying it again. But like anything undesirable, there are reasons it exists. And as uncomfortable as it may seem, the disgusting behaviour of our governments in the West is one of those reasons.

    To give you an analogy, nobody likes having a rat infestation but one of the root causes of that is bad hygiene, and that's something the homeowner is responsible for.

    I understand your point, but I have to disagree.

    For many of these terrorists are third or sometimes even fourth generation immigrants. They speak the language, they have been living there their entire lives,...

    I don't believe they are being so widely discriminated against that they choose to pick up a gun and kill innocent people. Those kids that shoot up their schools in the US often have severe mental issues that are left untreated, in this case the reason is simple: Radical Islam and it's vile indoctrination techniques on young people.

    Both causes should be dealt with better.


  • #581
    c_man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    GT_TDI_150 wrote: »
    Sky have come to the conclusion these might be co-ordinated attacks ... I will not believe that! :rolleyes:

    Nah, sure boards mods reckon it could all just be a coincidence... perhaps perpetrated by radical nihilists. Who knows?!

    Mick Wallace should know better than to come out with that kinda crap now. Or well actually, not him... He wouldn't to be fair.


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  • #582
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    49,204 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Ireland is not what I would call 'very few' - I would call it a massive potential '5th column'.

    You realise that's the kind of mindset unionists used to have towards catholics in NI?


  • #583
    Gatling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The Sun King wrote: »
    "This is for Syria."

    What about Libya ,Mali, Afghanistan
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  • #584
    leavingirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭leavingirl


    enfant terrible wrote: »
    Ah its the Jews fault, heard they have claws too.

    Yes and Osama Bin Laden was responsible for 911


  • #585
    Stinicker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,099 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    http://youtu.be/1BCi_xs1wHw


  • #586
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,462 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    My god...
    CNN: Hostages texting that they are being killed 1-by-1. Begging for police raid.


  • #587
    BlaasForRafa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    Oh so you're going back to the 7th century? Because Christians never engaged in warfare back then, did they?

    you try to claim that Islam is a religion of peace and co-existence and I show you it manifestly never has been and you decide to go in for a bit of whataboutery. Nice.
    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    Muslims have been no problem for people in Ireland. Relations here are good.

    Until some imam decides that the Irish have in some way offended islam and encourages his flock to go nuts.


  • #588
    Farty88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭Farty88


    super_furry wrote: »
    Neither are ITV or Channel 4. The only places giving it instant coverage are those equipped to do so - the dedicated news channels.

    But when September 11th happened RTE had coverage on it all day all I'm saying is why aren't we as a nation who have a national TV broadcasting service in our country can't have a dedicated news channel like all other countries in Europe to cover news like this what about people who don't have sky or other satellite coverage known nothing that's happening in France and who could have relatives involved my opinion it's disgraceful


  • #589
    Duggy747
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    They're doing a sweep of the theater for explosives, the terrorists must be executing the hostages in order to goad the police to begin the raid and then set the place off.


  • #590
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Very surprised they are not going in things are not going to get better


  • #591
    Gatling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Gintonious wrote: »
    My god...

    CNN aren't exactly reliable for stuff like this
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  • #592
    Orangebrigade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭Orangebrigade


    Have they not raided that bastard building yet? They are getting slaughtered, f*cking do something!


  • #593
    moneymad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭moneymad


    Stop with the hysterics, you're probably in bed nice and snug. People are dying and to be honest it doesn't affect you one bit.
    Penny Tration wrote: »
    This is terrifying.


  • #594
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hostage has updated his situation, saying he's OK but,

    "still alive, just cuts.. carnage.. bodies everywhere"


  • #595
    Del.Monte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    You realise that's the kind of mindset unionists used to have towards catholics in NI?

    Your point being - were they incorrect in their assessment?

    ****



  • #596
    Eugene Norman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    It most certainly is a problem and those who engage in it are scumbags, but like the spate of mass shootings by young social outcasts in the US, it has a root cause which many simply refuse to acknowledge. The West treats the Middle East and the real, living human beings who live there as some kind of ant farm toy. Those who grow up in the West and are ethnically related to those people, however distantly, and see that on television are growing up in a world which they believe doesn't respect them as humans.

    If you make people feel like they're not respected as humans, they will not behave like humans. The exact same phenomenon is behind the mass shootings in US schools. They're perpetrated by people with a justified victim complex, and like it or not, Western civilisation needs to do something about that or this sh!t will keep happening.

    I await the hordes of eejits who will regard what I've posted as a defense of the terrorists: It's not. They're scumbags. I've said that before and I have no problem saying it again. But like anything undesirable, there are reasons it exists. And as uncomfortable as it may seem, the disgusting behaviour of our governments in the West is one of those reasons.

    To give you an analogy, nobody likes having a rat infestation but one of the root causes of that is bad hygiene, and that's something the homeowner is responsible for.

    The west should stay out of the ME. But even if it did Islamist ideology would be anti-Western.

    We should stop invading and inviting the world.


  • #597
    blackcard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,412 ✭✭✭blackcard


    NomadicGray wrote: »
    Cahit Storm Retweeted
    Anne Bayefsky ‏@AnneBayefsky 10m10 minutes ago
    CNN: Hostages texting that they are being killed 1-by-1. Begging for police raid.

    Terrifying

    Someone, help them please


  • #598
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    There are rumours that the theater is rigged with explosives, hence the hesitation to storm it.


  • #599
    Gatling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Orangebrigade wrote: »
    Have they not raided that bastard building yet? They are getting slaughtered, f*cking do something!

    Nobody knows what's happening and what's not happening
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  • #600
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Orangebrigade wrote: »
    Have they not raided that bastard building yet? They are getting slaughtered, f*cking do something!

    If it's been rigged to explode there will be an even bigger loss of life.


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  • #601
    Witcher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,480 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    Orangebrigade wrote: »
    Have they not raided that bastard building yet? They are getting slaughtered, f*cking do something!

    I think it's best to leave that to the experts actually on the scene, maybe people sitting behind a keyboard without a clue and calling for raids should shut up.


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