Garda hits man with baton NAMA

GarIT · 13-11-2015 07:56PM

Galway K9 wrote: »

You have to use reasonable force and this video shows their was no immediate attack to condone this attack. The gaurd turned away and instead of walking on or staying in position he lost it and attacked the protestor. Hope the gaurd gets whats coming to him, GSOC are on ti already and Minister for Justice is involved. For the **** pay gaurds get, theirs no other reason for going into the job but Ego at this point.

The guard was trying to break up a violent protest, the force he used was reasonable in the context. Gaurds aren't regular citizens, they don't need to be attacked to use force.

Frank Bullitt · 13-11-2015 07:59PM

These career protesters need to cop on. They literally go from protest to protest, I could see a few familiar faces in the video and they only antagonize people who aren't with them.

If they do enough of these "protests" them its inevitable that something like this will or would kick off.

my friend · 13-11-2015 08:04PM

Taxpayer 1 - Career Dole heads 0

easygoing1982 · 13-11-2015 08:19PM

Superhorse wrote: »

The old man he hit had Parkinson's disease and seemed to be just picking himself off the ground after being knocked down. Shameful to hear anyone defend the action of that particular Garda as he is a terrible example of the fantastic work done by our police force nationwide. If the roles where reversed the old man would be in shackles right now facing court this evening I see no reason why this particular Garda should be above the law.

So theres 2 men with Parkinsons? There is a man on the ground with a red jacket at 2 minutes in and a crowd telling the guards he has parkinsons then at the end of the video a man in the black jacket gets struck. Adding fuel to the fire maybe?

At 3mins 33 secs you can see the guard being pulled and shoved

At 3mins 38 secs you can see the guard pushing the man back with his arm and right up to the point that the baton is drawn you can see the man again leaning against the guard after being pushed away.

He then struck him on his lower leg but the muppets around him tried to hold up up and it is then that he gets hit in the UPPER ARM/SHOULDER AREA.not neck or head

Im not a guard but why should a man go to work to be shoved and abused for doing his job.

No mention why the guards were there originally.
No mention of the alledged assault or the fact that the crowd tried to stop the guard from arresting him both at the start of the video and again around 3 minutes in.

If people repaid their loans for their houses there wouldnt be an issue.
Its not the guards fault that these people couldnt afford their loans.

Green Peter · 13-11-2015 08:21PM

Well done to the garda, great strike, fast,efficient and safe, he obviously felt threatened and felt he had to use force in order to make the arrest of a clearly aggressive protestor and to bring the situation to a safe but swift conclusion! Lugs brannigan was hailed a hero for doing similar!

Jayop · 13-11-2015 08:22PM

easygoing1982 wrote: »

If people repaid their loans for their houses there wouldnt be an issue.
Its not the guards fault that these people couldnt afford their loans.

Yep and if the banks couldn't afford their loans they wouldn't be bailed out either.

Oh wait.

easygoing1982 · 13-11-2015 08:22PM

Galway K9 wrote: »

You have to use reasonable force and this video shows their was no immediate attack to condone this attack. The gaurd turned away and instead of walking on or staying in position he lost it and attacked the protestor.

The guard was trying to get a man out of the crowd that he was trying to arrest for failing to giving his name when he was suspected of assault.Why would be move on.

He did try and stay in position and if you look at the video closely you will see that firstly he was pulled forward then pulled back

cython · 13-11-2015 08:24PM

Some amount of jumping to conclusions and talking rubbish going on here to suggest that a "man with Parkinson's" was struck with a baton - For all the confused and misinformed, the Parkinson's claim related to the individual in the red jacket with the walking stick and grey hair who was on the ground about halfway through. The Garda struck a bald man in a navy top with the baton (who had taken a notebook earlier), so can we PLEASE stop with the exaggeration and rubbish talk?!

easygoing1982 · 13-11-2015 08:25PM

Jayop wrote: »

Yep and if the banks couldn't afford their loans they wouldn't be bailed out either.

Oh wait.

The people went in to a bank i presume upon their own free will and signed a contract to say they'd say back a loan or their house would be repossessed.

What the banks did has nothing to do with anything here.

Haznat · 13-11-2015 08:25PM

Gintonious wrote: »

These career protesters need to cop on. They literally go from protest to protest, I could see a few familiar faces in the video and they only antagonize people who aren't with them.

If they do enough of these "protests" them its inevitable that something like this will or would kick off.

Familiar faces? Big fan of protest videos?

JustTheOne · 13-11-2015 08:26PM

Jayop wrote: »

Yep and if the banks couldn't afford their loans they wouldn't be bailed out either.

Oh wait.

Which they are paying back as we speak.

.243 · 13-11-2015 08:28PM

Isn't it great with all this technology, everything be can video recorded at a moments notice,you can clearly see in the video all the smart phones recording the moment but strangely somehow by of some miracle only one version of said moment is shown for all to ridicule,and if you actually keep watching the 5-10sec prior to the guard putting his notebook away and producing the baton you can sees him been physically shoved by the crowd behind him,I'm sorry but tough sh1t if you are in and are at the receiving end of a hiding,you would think of common sense in thing like this kicking off anyone with any matter between their ears would be out of there like a shot

Roger Hassenforder · 13-11-2015 08:29PM

Cops were originally calm,but to me it sems to have escalated when the Cops went to arrest him, and he tried to slip back into the peaceful mob.
Robo cop looked to be walking away, stop and looks behind as if someone grabbed his baton, and then proceeds to mill in.
Well played cops, sooner an occasional interlude of police brutality then mob rule.

wexandproud · 13-11-2015 08:32PM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Cops were originally calm,but to me it sems to have escalated when the Cops went to arrest him, and he tried to slip back into the peaceful mob.
Robo cop looked to be walking away, stop and looks behind as if someone grabbed his baton, and then proceeds to mill in.
Well played cops, sooner an occasional interlude of police brutality then mob rule.

you must have watched a different video alltogether

the evasion_kid · 13-11-2015 08:32PM

Jayop wrote: »

Yep and if the banks couldn't afford their loans they wouldn't be bailed out either.

Oh wait.

Sure wasn't there two labour tds at the auction hoping to pick up a bargain...

easygoing1982 · 13-11-2015 08:34PM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Cops were originally calm,but to me it sems to have escalated when the Cops went to arrest him, and he tried to slip back into the peaceful mob.

Peaceful mob??

Oh yeah i forgot,they were shouting peaceful protest whilst trying to prevent an arrest and push and shove a guard

myshirt · 13-11-2015 08:37PM

Lads, ffs, it's not the end of the world that a few belts of a baton were levelled out.

Paramite Pie · 13-11-2015 08:39PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I'm so utterly sick of this argument. What happened beforehand is irrelevant - assault isn't ok period.

What a naive statement.:rolleyes:

The guards are present at a protest to keep law and order not to stop the protest. These protesters have no business getting so aggressive with them.

Wouldn't surprise me if they provoke the gardaí just to get their reaction on camera. The guards are no saints and I wouldn't defend them outright. But if your surrounded and out numbered then you may feel threatened. Violence can be a valid defense.

Frank Bullitt · 13-11-2015 08:39PM

Haznat wrote: »

Familiar faces? Big fan of protest videos?

There is enough of them at this stage to make a Netflix series.

Jayop · 13-11-2015 08:40PM

JustTheOne wrote: »

Which they are paying back as we speak.

That will never be paid back in full. Ever

seamus · 13-11-2015 09:03PM

cython wrote: »

Some amount of jumping to conclusions and talking rubbish going on here to suggest that a "man with Parkinson's" was struck with a baton - For all the confused and misinformed, the Parkinson's claim related to the individual in the red jacket with the walking stick and grey hair who was on the ground about halfway through. The Garda struck a bald man in a navy top with the baton (who had taken a notebook earlier), so can we PLEASE stop with the exaggeration and rubbish talk?!

Sure he was a deaf mute wheelchair user who was just on his way to collect his pension when he was set upon by a violent scumbag Garda without warning.

Mr Jinx · 13-11-2015 09:11PM

Superhorse wrote: »

The old man he hit had Parkinson's disease and seemed to be just picking himself off the ground after being knocked down. Shameful to hear anyone defend the action of that particular Garda as he is a terrible example of the fantastic work done by our police force nationwide. If the roles where reversed the old man would be in shackles right now facing court this evening I see no reason why this particular Garda should be above the law.

Im amazed at the amount of protesters who have Parkinson's disease, epilepsy and/or a serious heart problem.
They really should be staying out of harms way! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

my friend · 13-11-2015 09:21PM

Mr Jinx wrote: »

Im amazed at the amount of protesters who have Parkinson's disease, epilepsy and/or a serious heart problem.
They really should be staying out of harms way! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Lots of them have Fibromyalgia...

Busted Flat. · 13-11-2015 09:21PM

Mr Jinx wrote: »

Im amazed at the amount of protesters who have Parkinson's disease, epilepsy and/or a serious heart problem.
They really should be staying out of harms way! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

GSOC is taken an interest in this display of violence, even the plain clothes Garda is taken aback by his violent reaction and pushed him back to avoid another blow. We will await their findings. Ps the reaction of the female Garda and the tall black haired young Guard showed them being calm and collected like most Gardaí are due to their training.

Nodin · 13-11-2015 09:25PM

myshirt wrote: »

Lads, ffs, it's not the end of the world that a few belts of a baton were levelled out.

If that baton had been six inches higher it would have been the end of somebodys world, you can be sure of that.

Busted Flat. · 13-11-2015 09:34PM

Remember back a few years ago Robocop, his colleagues had to restrain him due to his actions, he was not rostered for that scene and charged out of the station in his shirt sleeves to attack, his colleagues that were rostered were suitably dressed and equipped for the protest.

easygoing1982 · 13-11-2015 09:37PM

Busted Flat. wrote: »

even the plain clothes Garda is taken aback by his violent reaction and pushed him back to avoid another blow

You'll have to point out the plain clothes guard maybe by the time on the video but i fail to see any other guard there except the one in question

Nodin wrote: »

If that baton had been six inches higher it would have been the end of somebodys world, you can be sure of that.

I agree but you could liken than argument to if i had of crossed road 5 seconds later that car would have hit me or if i had have been there 30 seconds ago that bird would have sh*t on me.

The world is full of ifs and buts.The baton struck him exactly where it was meant to and thats on his shoulder

Dyr · 13-11-2015 09:45PM

Was it the same garda that was making the sarky comments aboyr "your amateur lawyer friends" at the start of the video who laid into the old lad with the baton?

gctest50 · 13-11-2015 09:48PM

Mr Jinx wrote: »

Im amazed at the amount of protesters who have Parkinson's disease, epilepsy and/or a serious heart problem.
They really should be staying out of harms way! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

the protest crew seem inclined to use them as (voluntary) human shields

easygoing1982 · 13-11-2015 09:50PM

Bambi wrote: »

Was it the same garda that was making the sarky comments aboyr "your amateur lawyer friends" at the start of the video who laid into the old lad with the baton?

Nothing really sarky about that comment surely.I'm sure most "professional lawyers" would know that there is no need to quote the full section when someone is being arrested so more than likely they were just amateurs spouting off verbal diarrhea

Garda hits man with baton NAMA

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