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Dairy Chit Chat- Please read Mod note in post #1

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  • #2132
    Milked out
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    110 an acre first cut 100 second here. No tedding or raking included. Is good to come when we need him too. Short draw anywhere from 40 to 70 acres cut in either cut depending on growth or farm work


  • #2133
    mf240
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    cute geoge wrote: »
    €130 seems a bit steep for a short draw and any descent amount of acres
    Bales get dear if you fertilise too well and get caught with weather ,
    I had 16 bales/acre in some of my first cut, savage crop ,cut dry turned twice ,conditions were ok but no drying mid may .Neighbour had similar crop but held tough until good spell june 10th ,turned and wilted ,he also ended up with 16 bales/acre .€130 for pit silage is cheap in that case and more often then not the weather will best you along the western seaboard

    What kind of baler. ?


  • #2134
    jaymla627
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    mf240 wrote: »
    What kind of baler. ?

    Would be asking what type of contractor more so, had to switch baling lad here as the old one was having a piss - take with what he was putting in the bales also refused to use chopper had a McHale f550....
    New guy is nearly getting twice as much in again and bales chopped to perfection with a McHale fusion plus 3, does all the tedding and raking too very reasonably


  • #2135
    freedominacup
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    cute geoge wrote: »
    I suppose you wont tell us how many acres you cut in that you get it cut for €75/acre

    No but it wasn't hundreds. I'm not being canvassed for the job every winter or anything like that. Just a standard enough job acres wise for this area.



    .


  • #2136
    Buford T. Justice XIX
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    Just bringing in for milking. Lightening out as well. Last night grazing for cows, all in tomorrow evening. 5 weeks milking left today and looking forward to drying off.


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  • #2137
    freedominacup
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    BG2.0 wrote: »
    As in turns up when he says and not 'soon' we're nearly there carry on. Leaves without wrecking half the peirs on farm!

    Yep. No fuss good gear. Experienced men. The young fella on the crew operates the wagon and he's in his late twenties.


  • #2138
    BG2.0
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    freedominacup wrote: »
    Yep. No fuss good gear. Experienced men. The young fella on the crew operates the wagon and he's in his late twenties.

    If you think experienced guys are expensive hire an amateur! A lesson a contracting neighbour has learned, good guys get you work poor guys cost you it at end of the day.


  • #2139
    visatorro
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    deal going round here for next year so Im told. all silage work, self propelled or wagon, mow and rake. and slurry spread with pipes, 65 an acre and 65 an hour. has to be over a certain amount of work.


  • #2140
    Greengrass1
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    http://m.independent.ie/business/farming/irish-farmers-ready-to-milk-french-connection-34183817.html

    Did you buy a few paddy crosses Dawg?


  • #2141
    BG2.0
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    http://m.independent.ie/business/farming/irish-farmers-ready-to-milk-french-connection-34183817.html

    Did you buy a few paddy crosses Dawg?

    How do irish-esq kiwi cross compare to the original?


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  • #2142
    Timmaay
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    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    Just bringing in for milking. Lightening out as well. Last night grazing for cows, all in tomorrow evening. 5 weeks milking left today and looking forward to drying off.

    Finished up at 6.05pm today, I was all smug reading the 1st part that you were only bringing them in at 8 ha, but 5weeks till dry off ugghhhhh, I'm at least 2years away from putting the whole herd dry same time haha.


  • #2143
    Buford T. Justice XIX
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    Timmaay wrote: »
    Finished up at 6.05pm today, I was all smug reading the 1st part that you were only bringing them in at 8 ha, but 5weeks till dry off ugghhhhh, I'm at least 2years away from putting the whole herd dry same time haha.
    They should be in now by rights but I got caught with a few breakdowns of scrapers and power washers and lights and medical appointments so they are out tonight against my better judgement:(

    Just watch out when you dry them all off eventually, you will find yourself wandering off in the direction of the yard around milking time, just out of habit:D


  • #2144
    Timmaay
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    What's a reason price for dehorning calves, say per calf? Got a neighbour with his own decent dehorner who does a bit of work for me, it's a job that gets put on the long finger most springs here with other stuff so I'm definitely better off letting him on with it ha.


  • #2145
    Dawggone
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    http://m.independent.ie/business/farming/irish-farmers-ready-to-milk-french-connection-34183817.html

    Did you buy a few paddy crosses Dawg?

    Ah no Gg. Lol.

    Up around Finistère country is an excellent grass growing region and makes perfect sense to have xbreds.

    I'm not convinced that xbreds would make the most of the high energy diet that we have down here.


  • #2146
    Milked out
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    How long does it take for yer tanks to wash lads and ladies? Dairymaster tank here and it's taking an hour to wash.


  • #2147
    Buford T. Justice XIX
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    Milked out wrote: »
    How long does it take for yer tanks to wash lads and ladies? Dairymaster tank here and it's taking an hour to wash.

    Delaval, 20 minutes.


  • #2148
    Milked out
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    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    Delaval, 20 minutes.

    Thats fast. Have option of quick wash here but no detergent in that and if driver has started full wash already no point in stopping it. Do u have a seperate water supply to parlour? Last tank used to take just over half an hour but it was a third the size. Pressure seems good enough not to slow the wash id be thinking anyway.


  • #2149
    whelan2
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    Milked out wrote: »
    How long does it take for yer tanks to wash lads and ladies? Dairymaster tank here and it's taking an hour to wash.
    packo, takes an hour, only washing it every second day atm, milkman coming every day


  • #2150
    Freejin
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    packo, takes an hour, only washing it every second day atm, milkman coming every day

    In the process of buying a tank here. Been told by the Packo rep full wash is 20 mins. ....is it a bit like the cars and mpg. .....they never do what the ads say?


  • #2151
    whelan2
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    Freejin wrote: »
    In the process of buying a tank here. Been told by the Packo rep full wash is 20 mins. ....is it a bit like the cars and mpg. .....they never do what the ads say?
    Milkman comes here anytime between 3-5 am, he puts the wash on. think there is only the one wash . It takes time to get tank up to temp to do the hot wash. Can knock the wash off after a rinse cold wash only if you wanted to


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  • #2152
    Greengrass1
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    About 40 min with packo


  • #2153
    Timmaay
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    I think 40mins here with a darakool, milkman comes at about 4am always so I've never actually seen it do a full wash ha.


  • #2154
    Freejin
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    About 40 min with packo

    I just did some more reading, the 20min wash time is with the dolphin economic wash control system, the standard system is about the 40 mins. Not sure is it worth €500 extra?


  • #2155
    Timmaay
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    Freejin wrote: »
    I just did some more reading, the 20min wash time is with the dolphin economic wash control system, the standard system is about the 40 mins. Not sure is it worth €500 extra?

    When they say economic wash, how much energy/water does it save over the standard system? Are there any reliability issues with it? Any quality issues? Would it be bought under the grant, if it's got under the 40% grant only costs 300, with the 60% grant 200quid ha. Finally taking all the above into consideration, what's the payback period ha?

    That's my general line of thinking on spends as such ha.


  • #2156
    Cow Porter
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    Think the eco wash just has a water tank that fills between the washes. So when 1st cycle is on the water for 2nd cycle is filling the water tank and this then goes to milk tank faster


  • #2157
    Buford T. Justice XIX
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    Milked out wrote: »
    Thats fast. Have option of quick wash here but no detergent in that and if driver has started full wash already no point in stopping it. Do u have a seperate water supply to parlour? Last tank used to take just over half an hour but it was a third the size. Pressure seems good enough not to slow the wash id be thinking anyway.

    Yeah, only draw on the mains water here is for washing the tank and cooling the milk and animals all get well water.

    It takes 25 minutes in summer when water pressure is lower but the pressure is never high here anyway.

    And milk is collected at 3pm here so no conflict with cooling milk either.


  • #2158
    farmer lad
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    Milked out wrote: »
    How long does it take for yer tanks to wash lads and ladies? Dairymaster tank here and it's taking an hour to wash.

    Mueller here, around 18 minutes for a full wash


  • #2159
    Deepsouthwest
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    Fairly new Dairymaster here and it's taking the guts of an hr, and that's with v high water pressure


  • #2160
    whelan2
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    Deepsouthwest wrote: »
    Fairly new Dairymaster here and it's taking the guts of an hr, and that's with v high water pressure
    wondering what sort of a wash a 20 minute wash is compared to the guts of an hour?


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  • #2161
    Deepsouthwest
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    wondering what sort of a wash a 20 minute wash is compared to the guts of an hour?

    The quick wash in my tank uses no detergent, not a idea imo


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