The Wesht

Pedro K · 07-11-2015 03:20AM #1

I did a little googling, albeit not very much, and can't seem to find an answer to this.

Why do many people in the west of Ireland put a 'h' into words containing S? 'Shtop', 'Shlab' etc.

Does anybody know why it is? Are you from the wesht? Do you use the h?

07-11-2015 03:22AM

It's called an accent

The Sidewards Man · 07-11-2015 03:24AM

Its because they are close bred.

Ruu · 07-11-2015 03:25AM

Will ya whisht! (not from the west)

dd972 · 07-11-2015 03:35AM

I ****ing hate it.

rolliepoley · 07-11-2015 03:38AM

Its in the wrist action and the shake of the leg like!

uch · 07-11-2015 03:44AM

Becauseshh

the_syco · 07-11-2015 03:48AM

Pedro K wrote: »

Does anybody know why it is? Are you from the wesht? Do you use the h?

7up-free-dialect-dictionary-the-wesht-of-ireland

07-11-2015 05:09AM

Pedro K wrote: »

I did a little googling, albeit not very much, and can't seem to find an answer to this.

Why do many people in the west of Ireland put a 'h' into words containing S? 'Shtop', 'Shlab' etc.

Does anybody know why it is? Are you from the wesht? Do you use the h?

First of all, people don't out a h "into words containing s". For example, where a is followed by a vowel, or indeed a consonant most of the time, you only hear it from Ronan Keating

"The shmile on your face letsh me know that you're near me"
"Shorry, words don't come eashily"

People in Kerry don't talk about Shishter Shledge, or say "shenshational, shuperb".

Where a word has an s before a t at the end, you can hear it. Sometimes. Like Chrisht, whisht, wesht etc. I like it, I don't hear it enough, it's usually amongst older people and has been kinda mocked, so younger people are less likely to use it here IMO.

martyos121 · 07-11-2015 05:14AM

Why do people from outside the glorious wesht keep overthinking this?

The truth is everyone here worships Sean Connery like a god, and speaking like him is how we express it.

Now I'm off to shleep shcans.

NIMAN · 07-11-2015 05:35AM

Once we discover the answer to this, can we start working on why some folk think that it goes "one, two, tree"?

Wompa1 · 07-11-2015 05:56AM

NIMAN wrote: »

Once we discover the answer to this, can we start working on why some folk think that it goes "one, two, tree"?

Or us is uz and a house is a howz

Anybody else want to punch Ray Darcy from the old water safety ad? Water Safe ah Tea

WesternZulu · 07-11-2015 09:02AM

Arra shtop, it's very common in Mayo and Galway.

Nothing wrong with it at all!!

As they say around here 'Up the Wesht and f**k the resht!!!'

Menas · 07-11-2015 09:04AM

If only we all spoke the same way with the same accent...

gstack166 · 07-11-2015 09:04AM

Why do people in Dublin say 'me' instead of 'my' - 'me ma' 'me mickey money' etc.

LordSutch · 07-11-2015 09:44AM

The Sidewards Man wrote: »

Its because they are close bred.

You mean inbred?

MilesMorales1 · 07-11-2015 09:55AM

Schum away, schum away.

VinLieger · 07-11-2015 10:07AM

Probably all the incesht

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 07-11-2015 10:08AM

Pedro K wrote: »

I did a little googling, albeit not very much, and can't seem to find an answer to this.

Why do many people in the west of Ireland put a 'h' into words containing S? 'Shtop', 'Shlab' etc.

Does anybody know why it is? Are you from the wesht? Do you use the h?

The same reason people in Dublin pronounce Th as D. Being from Dublin, you might explain dat for us and why you drop the g in words ending in ing.

Accents.

Pedro K · 07-11-2015 10:33AM

I don't think it's as simple as accent though. My girlfriend is from the west and every now and again comes out with the h. But in the very next breath she'll go back to regular pronunciation.

I think, for many, it's a conscious decision.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 07-11-2015 10:36AM

Pedro K wrote: »

I don't think it's as simple as accent though. My girlfriend is from the west and every now and again comes out with the h. But in the very next breath she'll go back to regular pronunciation.

I think, for many, it's a conscious decision.

I call bull on that. An accent slips in and out when someone is not in their native area. You are also making to sound as though everybody in the west speaks this way, when they patently do not.

Why not just ask the girlfriend why she does it?

donegaLroad · 07-11-2015 10:38AM

what about the 'yes on an in-breath'.. is that a solely West/North of Ireland phenomena? It is common in Donegal.

Bio Mech · 07-11-2015 10:42AM

What accent do you have OP. Because whatever it is I would like to complain about your pronunciation.

Also do you know what I hate. Those foreigners. None of them sound like they are from the east of Ireland. Not on.

Pedro K · 07-11-2015 10:52AM

Parker Huge Batter wrote: »

I call bull on that. An accent slips in and out when someone is not in their native area. You are also making to sound as though everybody in the west speaks this way, when they patently do not.

Why not just ask the girlfriend why she does it?

I did. She said it was just on ST and couldn't explain the origins of it.

Pedro K · 07-11-2015 10:53AM

Bio Mech wrote: »

What accent do you have OP. Because whatever it is I would like to complain about your pronunciation.

Also do you know what I hate. Those foreigners. None of them sound like they are from the east of Ireland. Not on.

I never complained. I asked a question.

A few of you guys seem to have gotten up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.

PARlance · 07-11-2015 11:00AM

It dates back to 1798 and the arrival of General Humbert to the shores of Mayo.
Somewhere along their march to Castlebar, the Mayo lads realised that their French brothers in arms ad an abit of dropping le H.... arra fhuck that the Mayo lads thought.... we need to put a shtop to this...but alas, they failed in their attempt of getting the French bhucks to start pronouncing the H, so out out pure thickness, it is now added into every word possible.

07-11-2015 12:09PM

Because it's better than talking with a sort of melted American accent like South Dubliners or a constipated rat like North Dubliners.

See, isn't making sweeping generalizations fun?

Pedro K · 07-11-2015 12:33PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Because it's better than talking with a sort of melted American accent like South Dubliners or a constipated rat like North Dubliners.

See, isn't making sweeping generalizations fun?

Jesus. There must be a sale on high horses this weekend.

Is it not true that many people from the west of Ireland do use the h? It is in my experience.

I didn't insult it. I asked does anyone know why it is? Maybe I could have worded the question a bit better and asked does anyone know the origins of it. You're the one that brought insults into it.

smash · 07-11-2015 01:20PM

It's as if they learned English from someone with a speech impediment

Badly Drunk Boy · 07-11-2015 06:05PM

Pedro K wrote: »

Jesus. There must be a sale on high horses this weekend.

Is it not true that many people from the west of Ireland do use the h? It is in my experience.

I didn't insult it. I asked does anyone know why it is? Maybe I could have worded the question a bit better and asked does anyone know the origins of it. You're the one that brought insults into it.

You sort of did, especially when you said you thought people put it on and don't really talk like this. "It's a conscious decision."

I've relatives in Clifden in Galway who speak like this, and I just accept that it's the way they speak. A lad who worked with me a few years ago also spoke like this. He was in his early 20s and was from Leitrim.

People speak differently, whether it because of their accent, dialect, education, or their voice.

bodhrandude · 07-11-2015 06:12PM

Possibly because of bad teeth, the sound comes out stranger.

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