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Are many people snobs?

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  • #32
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    efb wrote: »
    I am am educational snob, I rate an Oxbridge degree higher than anywhere else in these islands - and the stats back me up

    In what field? It's ridiculous to say it is better at every area and sub area of science than any where else in the world.


  • #33
    efb
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    Eugene Norman wrote: »
    Larger countries can funnel more elites into their very top level universities. That said I've been to Oxford, so has the OP. So have plenty of Irish grads. All holding their own.

    Yes, I'm not saying Irish people can't go there, I just hold their educational awards in higher esteem


  • #34
    efb
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    steddyeddy wrote: »
    In what field? It's ridiculous to say it is better at every area and sub area of science than any where else in the world.

    The ones that matter


  • #35
    OneOfThem
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    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    The humblebrag.

    Sounds like something from a fairy tale about a creature that eats Swiss children. Eat your porridge or the Humblebrag'll get ye!.


  • #36
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    efb wrote: »
    The ones that matter

    Hmmm that's not a very logical answer TBH. I'm snobby about the university ratings. I think they're a "universities for dummies sort of thing". Oxford trails behind on several areas of science. It really depends what you study there. You can't say a student from every subject will get a better education than a student from every other university.


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  • #37
    One eyed Jack
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    steddyeddy wrote: »
    No such thing as an inverted snob IMO. That requires there to be an actual up and down. A snob is someone who looks down on someone.


    The way I figure an inverted snob, is someone who constantly plays the poor mouth, someone who is always envious of, and bitter towards, people whom they feel is worth more in society than them.


  • #38
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    The way I figure an inverted snob, is someone who constantly plays the poor mouth, someone who is always envious of, and bitter towards, someone whom they feel is worth more in society than them.

    But I think that's just bitterness and not snobbery ain't it?


  • #39
    efb
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    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Hmmm that's not a very logical answer TBH. I'm snobby about the university ratings. I think they're a "universities for dummies sort of thing". Oxford trails behind on several areas of science. It really depends what you study there. You can't say a student from every subject will get a better education than a student from every other university.

    A first class honours degree from Oxbridge trumps anything else on these islands

    It's the sign of a great mind


  • #40
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    efb wrote: »
    A first class honours degree from Oxbridge trumps anything else on these islands

    It's the sign of a great mind

    Not a chance. Degrees grades aren't indicative of anything of the sort. Some of the thickest students I know got firsts. The PhD is what matters and how many times you publish.


  • #41
    efb
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    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Not a chance. Degrees grades aren't indicative of anything of the sort. Some of the thickest students I know got firsts. The PhD is what matters and how many times you publish.

    From Oxbridge???


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  • #42
    Fleawuss
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    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    Mother was/is a snob, she hand picked the families her children could associate with and disciplined us if we used slang or spoke in common accents. The hilarious thing for me is while her father was a successful businessman, he was essentially only a cattle dealer.

    .

    Mother did a tremendous job!:D


  • #43
    efb
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    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Not a chance. Degrees grades aren't indicative of anything of the sort. Some of the thickest students I know got firsts. The PhD is what matters and how many times you publish.

    I doubt these people stop their studies - a PhD from Oxbridge is some achievement


  • #44
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    efb wrote: »
    From Oxbridge???

    From any college. A degree is more about memory IMO. I didn't notice a huge surge in brain power relative to anywhere else IMO.


  • #45
    efb
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    steddyeddy wrote: »
    From any college. A degree is more about memory IMO. I didn't notice a huge surge in brain power relative to anywhere else IMO.

    How many people with firsts from Oxbridge do you know??? And what percentage are thick???


  • #46
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    efb wrote: »
    I doubt these people stop their studies - a PhD from Oxbridge is some achievement

    If they don't publish that means zero. A sh1t scientists is still a sh1t scientist.


  • #47
    Sky King
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    Stop saying Oxbridge


  • #48
    efb
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    Sky King wrote: »
    Stop saying Oxbridge

    Why? It is the most appropriate word to use


  • #49
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    efb wrote: »
    Why? It is the most appropriate word to use

    I think you're on commission from Oxbridge.


  • #50
    efb
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    steddyeddy wrote: »
    If they don't publish that means zero. A sh1t scientists is still a sh1t scientist.

    I would gladly employ anyone with a first from Oxbridge over anywhere else on these islands


  • #51
    efb
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    steddyeddy wrote: »
    I think you're on commission from Oxbridge.

    Would that it were...


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  • #52
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    efb wrote: »
    I would gladly employ anyone with a first from Oxbridge over anywhere else on these islands

    Well that's really stupid. We have the second most published scientist on this island and a recent Nobel laureate. Do you think Oxbridge hire Oxbridge over all other students?


  • #53
    efb
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    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Well that's really stupid. We have the second most published scientist on this island and a recent Nobel laureate. Do you think Oxbridge hire Oxbridge over all other students?

    Who are they?


  • #54
    One eyed Jack
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    steddyeddy wrote: »
    But I think that's just bitterness and not snobbery ain't it?


    Hmm, I think it's snobbery borne out of bitterness. It's a hard one to explain, like for example people who are socially disadvantaged in some way, we'll say they're unemployed. They might make assumptions about people who are working, that they are this and that and the other. I've experienced it a few times and it probably is one of those things you'd have to experience, like they've often straight out said to me - "You think you're better than me, don't you?", and I'd often reply with "I don't even know you".

    Often times I do wonder though are they just saying it because they've always said it, and they've said it to themselves so often that they start to believe it themselves.


  • #55
    Wabbit Ears
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    I'm a complete snob in many ways. Mainly around people who use buses. Only peasants use buses.


  • #56
    J Mysterio
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    sonny.knowles wrote: »
    Are we including food snobs (the ones say McDonalds etc are muck), coffee snobs (the ones who say Starbucks is muck) and beer snobs (the ones who say Budweiser etc is muck)?

    You mean people with taste?


  • #57
    Mister Vain
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    There are plenty of snobs in AH.


  • #58
    Fox_In_Socks
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    http://www.historyworld.co.uk/content/oxo4.jpg

    I'd say as you get older and have children, snobbiness tends to come out. What is best, which is better etc. When you're younger, anything goes


  • #59
    OwaynOTT
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    Loads of snobs about.

    People from 'rough' estates looking down on someone who goes to college and has airs and graces.
    Match going soccer fans over the ones you don't go.
    League of Ireland fans over those you follow foreign teams.
    People working and those on the dole.
    Diesel cars over petrol.
    Combustion engines over electric and vice versa.
    Football fans who follow European football over those who follow English.
    Sports fans who prefer their sport over another. Rugby fans opposed to football fans.
    Real music fans over those who like pop or not real music.
    Indie or not mainstream film fans towards popcorn movie fans and the reverse.
    Couple with kids over those without and couples without kids towards those who have kids.
    Literary fiction lovers towards genre lovers and the turnaround.


    There's loads of snobs out there and people can find almost anything to be snobby and superior about. Of course loads of people don't give a **** either and I'm one of those and I think those whi don't feel that way are just the worse.


  • #60
    zl1whqvjs75cdy
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    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Well that's really stupid. We have the second most published scientist on this island and a recent Nobel laureate. Do you think Oxbridge hire Oxbridge over all other students?

    Think he's winding you up op.


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  • #61
    pedroeibar1
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    steddyeddy wrote: »
    I'm snobby about the university ratings. I think they're a "universities for dummies sort of thing". Oxford trails behind on several areas of science. It really depends what you study there. You can't say a student from every subject will get a better education than a student from every other university.
    If a snob is someone who knows and admires what is best, then I am a snob.
    I have no notion of that Darndale College place or its graduates.
    A PhD –ffs for what, useful only in academia.
    Publishing papers – there already is enough waffle out there. Academia again.
    Proud of a degree from an Irish Uni? Have you looked at the rankings? (They are based on results, research and incomes of graduates)
    Pedro. INSEAD & RSM. pip pip old chap!


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