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The 'After Hours' Racehorse

  • 04-11-2015 11:50AM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭


    So there's a racehorse with the name After Hours and he's running today (1:45pm Chepstow).

    He's 6 years old and originated in Ireland and is now stabled in the UK with trainer Henry Oliver and is a jumps (National Hunt) horse (as opposed to a Flat horse).
    Generally jumps horses run in the winter and flat horses in the summer (to remember think of the softer, wetter ground in the winter making for a better surface to be landing on and the hard dry ground in the summer better for the horses sprinting on the flat).
    He's had two runs as a professional racehorse so far. One was in a bumper which he won. The second was in a novice hurdle - his first time over obstacles - in which he came 3rd.
    Jumps horses generally start in a bumper. This is a race without obstacles, designed to provide horses with an introduction to the racecourse experience without the complications of obstacles to overcome.
    They will then generally move to hurdles. These are small obstacles and easily kicked to the ground if a horse doesn't jump them right.
    If a horse shows good jumping ability he/she will then move to chasing (aka steeple-chasing - so called because the earliest form used to race cross country from the steeple of one church to that of another). These Chase races involve higher, fixed obstacles known as fences or ditches.
    So can he win today? He's running in a maiden hurdle. A maiden race is for horses who haven't won before - so a maiden hurdle race is for those who haven't won over hurdles. It's similar to his last race (novice hurdle) in that it's for beginners but this might be slightly easier.

    He was after a bit of a break before his last run (he rested up for the summer while the flat racing was on). He won his bumper in April and ran his last race in October (three weeks ago). Some horses are easier to get fit after a break than others. Some need 'race fitness' (known as 'match fitness' in other sports). So there's the possibility that he might be fitter today

    Ground conditions today might be more suitable for him than last time. The weather affects the ground and most horses have a preference one way or the other. Every race will have a ground description and today's is 'soft'. Last time he raced it was 'good'. What that means is that today's ground is a bit wetter than last time and there is a bit more give in it. If a horse has been taking a break all summer and reappears for the winter (like this fella) you can usually assume that he likes wetter/softer ground.

    However there is also the possibility that he is still learning the game. He's had just one run over obstacles and many trainers are happy to give them plenty of experience before getting serious. After all they've grown up with horses and mind them every day. Although these horses love doing what they're doing, the trainers can tend to be more cautious than the horse itself would care to be. So we may not see the best of him yet.

    There is also the possibility that he's not good enough of course. But horses who have won a bumper race generally tend to win a hurdles race somewhere along the way.

    While he has his chance, some of the opposition today come from much bigger/more successful stables and will have cost a lot more.


    Here's how some of the papers assess his chance today:
    "Irish point winner who showed good attitude to fend off one with more experience in a bumper here on good ground and then beaten 13l into third on switch to hurdling at Worceter (2m4f; good); unless easy ground is the key to him (handled it well in his points) then may have to settle for more place money."

    "Irish-point winner who made winning Rules debut in Chepstow bumper in April. Showed aptitude for hurdling (despite sweating up) on return at Worcester (20f) last month, and he's the type to improve."
    (You may be wondering what the "point winner" is about. This indicated that he won a Point-to-Point race before he became a professional racehorse. Point-to-Pointing is an amateur/much smaller scale type of racing, like a nursery for the professional racing. Many jumps horses and even jumps jockeys will start out in Point-to-Pointing.)


    It's a guessing game but the speculation is that while he's good there might be better opposition in today's race. He's around 12/1 currently for anyone who likes a flutter.

    He runs at 1:45pm and you can listen to the race here (click the play button in the top right).
    You can view the racecard here.
    For the latest odds see here (pink means prices are increasing, blue means shortening).

    Best of luck After Hours!


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    So can he win today?

    Of course he can win. Will he win? Nobody will know that until the race is over.

    (P.S. you haven't provided much information here that would help make a decision regarding his chances)

    (P.P.S. you're asking a forum where many have relatively little experience with equines except knowing they have four legs, a tail and some of them run fast)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭NeverWaining


    sup_dude wrote: »
    Of course he can win. Will he win? Nobody will know that until the race is over.

    (P.S. you haven't provided much information here that would help make a decision regarding his chances)

    (P.P.S. you're asking a forum where many have relatively little experience with equines except knowing they have four legs, a tail and some of them run fast)

    Of course we don't know if he will win. Like any other sporting event, we don't know the result until it is over.

    I'm clearly not asking After Hours (the forum) anything. I'm merging the two (horse and forum), providing some information and hopefully somebody who may not have an interest in the sport might learn a thing or two or maybe even gain a bit of interest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    He's about an 11/1 shot according to the bookmakers!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 241 ✭✭Stranger Danger


    He's unlikely to get halfway around the course before being derailed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭NeverWaining


    He's unlikely to get halfway around the course before being derailed.

    Haha! That genuinely made me laugh out loud.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Well I'm sticking the kids' college fund on him.


  • Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sod it, I'm sticking a fiver on him to win at 11/1 with a best price guarantee.

    Don't fail me now AH!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,014 ✭✭✭eamonnq


    I am going to stick my neck out here and say that he won't win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,500 ✭✭✭Yester


    I'm in for €3.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    The important thing here is that once the race is over After Hours will think he has won... no matter what the reality is.

    Putting a fiver on him too!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,647 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    I thought we were going to buy a horse. :(

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Timeform sez
    Irish-point winner who made winning Rules debut in Chepstow bumper in April. Showed aptitude for hurdling (despite sweating up) on return at Worcester (20f) last month, and he's the type to improve.

    Unfortunately you can make a case for about half the field.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭connundrum


    After Hours?

    I'm not raceHORSE-ist but...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Pissin like a (after hours) racehorse


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭NeverWaining


    Sod it, I'm sticking a fiver on him to win at 11/1 with a best price guarantee.
    Yester wrote: »
    I'm in for €3.
    Menas wrote: »
    Putting a fiver on him too!

    What have I done?! :pac:

    For the record I'm not putting a penny on him (or anything else in the race).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Breaking New: Horse has been removed from the race for kicking other horses in the face!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Wonder how many dole threads it has.


  • Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What have I done?! :pac:

    For the record I'm not putting a penny on him (or anything else in the race).

    Haha. If I go hungry tonight it's all your fault! I'll be in the bookies watching so will give you all a running commentary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    smash wrote:
    Breaking New: Horse has been removed from the race for kicking other horses in the face!


    Horse proceeded to attack officials upon removal from race before being handed a ban from racing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Wonder how many dole threads it has.

    not enough.

    not nearly enough.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    smash wrote: »
    Breaking New: Horse has been removed from the race for kicking other horses in the face!
    Trent galloped away. 'Kicks in the face are much more effective than shooting them with a gnu', he thought to himself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    So there's a racehorse with the name After Hours and he's running today (1:45pm Chepstow).


    Best of luck After Hours!


    Fair play OP for keeping my attention for the length of that post, I thought this was going to be a thread asking if AH were a racehorse... :pac:

    Unfortunately for me, sup_dude has it spot on on with this -

    sup_dude wrote: »
    Of course he can win. Will he win? Nobody will know that until the race is over.

    (P.S. you haven't provided much information here that would help make a decision regarding his chances)

    (P.P.S. you're asking a forum where many have relatively little experience with equines except knowing they have four legs, a tail and some of them run fast)


    And sup_dude knows their horse related stuff :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭NeverWaining


    Education, education, education One Eyed Jack.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    Not without a chance.

    The time of the bumper he won was quick enough and the Hurdle he placed in last time out was a Class 4, this is a Class 5, and so should fair somewhat better.

    7/2 on Betfair (4.55) to be in the first three seems a decent bet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    €10 E/W for the craic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    sired by a horse called Glue Factory


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭Steppenwolfe


    I hate to piss on everyones parade, but Tapaculo (100/30) will hack up in that race.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    I've heard the horse may not make the race it's it's still trying to find a link to back up it's claim as being a horse.
    Hooves and using a computer are a nightmare.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    If the jockey is a troll, I'm in.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    The race has been postponed. Apparently someone was messing on the track and it's been closed for review. There's talk that it might be moved to another venue.


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