Is there anything more irrelevant than fashion?

Kenny Bania · 27-10-2015 03:08PM #1

Was just thinking about this other other day - is there anything less important or relevant to our existence, our lives, or us as a species, than fashion?

To me it just seems utterly pointless & irrelevant - yet people discuss it as if it matters or has an impact on anything.

I'm just back from staying in a hotel with 3 channels, and Xpose was on in the background while we packed, and it's just 30mins of airheads talking air - literally nothing of substance. "Celebrities" arriving at some awards show dressed up, and some interviewer asks them about what arbitrary bit of fabric they decided to drape over their body that evening - it just seems so silly. And the interviewer then gives a disingenuous "wow!", as if the answer matters - that would have been the reply no matter what the answer - so why ask?

I'm not even big into sport - but it has a point - competition, winning, etc. Competing to be the best.

Anyway, just food for thought.

x43r0 · 27-10-2015 03:08PM

Do you remember that fella who was so good at fashion, they had to shoot him?

The_Valeyard · 27-10-2015 03:09PM

Internet opinions

Wibbs · 27-10-2015 03:10PM

Not really. It is very much a part of what makes us human(albeit it does change at a mach more rapid pace these days). Fashion telegraphs status, attractiveness, group allegiances for a start.

MagicIRL · 27-10-2015 03:11PM

People like to be creative and fashion is essentially expression of self to a degree.

Whatever floats your boat, really.

BattleCorp · 27-10-2015 03:12PM

Watching Expose will seriously reduce your IQ.

deex · 27-10-2015 03:13PM

Xpose is most certainly irrelevant.
The culture of celebrity is pointless.

Neither of which sum of what "fashion" is about.

I love fashion, and I hate that people take that to mean that I obsessively follow the Kardashians.

I follow design houses, am interested in different fabrics, colours, prints, cuts... Fashion design is a creativity and an art, and while I don't design clothes myself, it's something I am interested in and appreciate, the same way people would follow painters or sculptors they like.

Kenny Bania · 27-10-2015 03:14PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Not really. It is very much a part of what makes us human(albeit it does change at a mach more rapid pace these days). Fashion telegraphs status, attractiveness, group allegiances for a start.

That's a good point - I'm open to being corrected, as it is a genuine query of mine.

I just never even think about what I'm wearing or what other people wear - it's just never on my radar, because it's irrelevant IMO.

stoneill · 27-10-2015 03:14PM

People talking about fashion

not yet · 27-10-2015 03:16PM

It's all soooo on point..!!

Kenny Bania · 27-10-2015 03:20PM

deex wrote: »

Xpose is most certainly irrelevant.
I follow design houses, am interested in different fabrics, colours, prints, cuts... Fashion design is a creativity and an art, and while I don't design clothes myself, it's something I am interested in and appreciate, the same way people would follow painters or sculptors they like.

That's another good point - but when I see Xpose, it just makes me have further disdain for what I perceive to be the entire fashion industry & the type of people that are involved in it. Glenda Gilson's massive horse-head talking complete air. Vogue Wilson (who I knew in Howth when she was a teenage airhead) actually thinking she's a somebody. It's mental - such pretentiousness.
They dressed up some aul wan, and the guy presenter literally said "swit swoo" 3 times in the 40 seconds he spoke for - such pointless nonsense. He would have said "swit swoo" no matter what she looked like - so what is the point?

Edit - found it on 3 Player.

Mr. "Swit Swoo" on the left there.

Zillah · 27-10-2015 03:20PM

It is completely insane and embarrassing . I've had people tell me I should or shouldn't wear something because it's the fashion, or because it is or isn't 'in', and when I ask them what that means they can never give me an answer that equates to anything more than "because someone said so".

They're not even claiming that certain things are or are not aesthetically pleasing, they talk about fashion like it's a cold front coming in from the north Atlantic - a simple reality to which we must all react.

seamus · 27-10-2015 03:21PM

I guess it makes people happy. The entire industry/concept is something just so far removed from my sphere of concern that I refuse to take my own opinion on it as being at all representative.

I literally cannot fathom the appeal in it whatsoever. I do not understand what enjoyment someone gets out of looking at or talking about clothes and fashion. In fact, I can't really relate to it at all. Like, I don't *get* Formula 1. It's a bunch of cars going around the same track 100 times, yawn. But I have been known to enjoy watching other sports, so I can relate to F1 on that level.

I have no similar way of relating to people who enjoy fashion. But it's for exactly this reason that I don't sneer at it really or comment on it. I am so far removed from it that I don't even feel like I understand it well enough to make fun of it.

wilhelm roentgen · 27-10-2015 03:24PM

x43r0 wrote: »

Do you remember that fella who was so good at fashion, they had to shoot him?

Is Bowie dead?

Kenny Bania · 27-10-2015 03:28PM

seamus wrote: »

I guess it makes people happy. The entire industry/concept is something just so far removed from my sphere of concern that I refuse to take my own opinion on it as being at all representative.

I literally cannot fathom the appeal in it whatsoever. I do not understand what enjoyment someone gets out of looking at or talking about clothes and fashion. In fact, I can't really relate to it at all. Like, I don't *get* Formula 1. It's a bunch of cars going around the same track 100 times, yawn. But I have been known to enjoy watching other sports, so I can relate to F1 on that level.

I have no similar way of relating to people who enjoy fashion. But it's for exactly this reason that I don't sneer at it really or comment on it. I am so far removed from it that I don't even feel like I understand it well enough to make fun of it.

I agree. I'm not qualified to talk about - which is why I'm open to being corrected (Wibbs and deeks made good points above).
But what it fundamentally boils down to for me, is that I just don't understand how it matters what anyone wears.

The Backwards Man · 27-10-2015 03:30PM

Beep beep

SEPT 23 1989 · 27-10-2015 03:32PM

Radiant,

Sir,

Radiant.

ancapailldorcha · 27-10-2015 03:32PM

Foodieism.

Sleepy · 27-10-2015 03:45PM

While I've no interest in it myself, I can understand the interest in clothing / wanting to look good to an extent. What I'll never be able to understand is how a handbag made by some poor 7 year old in Taiwan they're paying a dollar a day is worth hundreds of euros.

OldGoat · 27-10-2015 03:52PM

I love a good fashion. I fashion here, I fashion there. I doff my hat to Louis XIV and Jean-Baptiste Colbert for the calculated invention of Couture. Hear me sing the praises of Alexander McQueen and oggle at my perfectly preserved Jamie Reid T-Shirt.

Kev W · 27-10-2015 04:09PM

wilhelm roentgen wrote: »

Is Bowie dead?

There was an attempt made but at the last second he unexpectedly turned to the left.

Billy86 · 27-10-2015 04:27PM

stoneill wrote: »

People talking about fashion

On fleek. The term you were looking for was on fleek.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to bash my skull in beyond recognition with a hammer until I forget ever hearing about anything being 'on fleek'.

topper75 · 27-10-2015 04:31PM

I don't follow fashion, but occasionally (very occasionally) it follows me.

I got a denim jacket lately. Wanted one for 25 years since the last one was drunkenly left in some disco, and eventually found one that fits and looks OK.

As I was handing over the cash, herself was shaking her head in despair at the latest manifestation of my questionable taste. I was happy though - the jacket was 'me'.

Then the sales guy ruins it all by trying to explain that denim jackets are now becoming hip again. Not really what I wanted. Piss off hipsters and let an old man be.

smash · 27-10-2015 04:34PM

I see the latest fashion is to strap people to you, kind of in a 69 position!

BattleCorp · 27-10-2015 04:43PM

smash wrote: »

I see the latest fashion is to strap people to you, kind of in a 69 position!

Yeah, I'm not normally into fashion but I'd probably give that a go, especially that second picture. :cool:

El_Duderino 09 · 27-10-2015 04:55PM

Wibbs wrote:

Not really. It is very much a part of what makes us human(albeit it does change at a mach more rapid pace these days). Fashion telegraphs status, attractiveness, group allegiances for a start.

Not just humans. There's an element of maximising appearance in all animals I'd say. It's in the interest of sexual selection. We even borrow the term 'peacocking' from the animal Kingdom. I'm pretty sure the urge to be the most appealing person in the room is fairly deep rooted. If you enjoy the repartee on Expose then you probably won't talk anyone onto bed so you have to look your best.

Fashion is a fairly human/capatalist spin on the convention as it changes from season to season.

I enjoy going to the gym and feeling physically fit which is probably the same urge to look good. I couldn't have a conversation about the gym for more than a fee sentences though. People who go on and on about their work out are about as boring as the expose crew.

Medusa22 · 27-10-2015 06:27PM

smash wrote: »

I see the latest fashion is to strap people to you, kind of in a 69 position!

BattleCorp wrote: »

Yeah, I'm not normally into fashion but I'd probably give that a go, especially that second picture. :cool:

Definitely a new-found interest in fashion myself, the last photo was my favourite

Banjo String · 27-10-2015 07:12PM

It may make or break me, but I've got to buy the best, I'm just a dedicated follower of fashion.

looksee · 27-10-2015 07:20PM

While designers are scraping the barrel looking for ever more ridiculous things for models to do/show on the catwalk, that leaves the rest of us free to wear what we want.

I couldn't take more than a passing interest in fashion (though I did buy some narrow cut jeans and trousers - they called them straight cut, but they look narrow to me) but what harm if people want to be interested? Takes all sorts.

justchecked · 27-10-2015 07:29PM

The latest spawning of a UK royal.

when a royal spawns an offspring, females lose their sht.

then its all over my internet and tele.

shouldn't be allowed.

sonny.knowles · 27-10-2015 07:36PM

Atheism, veganism and PC crap?

Is there anything more irrelevant than fashion?

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