Is there anything more irrelevant than fashion?

Kenny Bania

Was just thinking about this other other day - is there anything less important or relevant to our existence, our lives, or us as a species, than fashion?

To me it just seems utterly pointless & irrelevant - yet people discuss it as if it matters or has an impact on anything.

I'm just back from staying in a hotel with 3 channels, and Xpose was on in the background while we packed, and it's just 30mins of airheads talking air - literally nothing of substance. "Celebrities" arriving at some awards show dressed up, and some interviewer asks them about what arbitrary bit of fabric they decided to drape over their body that evening - it just seems so silly. And the interviewer then gives a disingenuous "wow!", as if the answer matters - that would have been the reply no matter what the answer - so why ask?

I'm not even big into sport - but it has a point - competition, winning, etc. Competing to be the best.

Anyway, just food for thought.

x43r0

Do you remember that fella who was so good at fashion, they had to shoot him?

The_Valeyard

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Wibbs

Not really. It is very much a part of what makes us human(albeit it does change at a mach more rapid pace these days). Fashion telegraphs status, attractiveness, group allegiances for a start.

MagicIRL

People like to be creative and fashion is essentially expression of self to a degree.

Whatever floats your boat, really.

BattleCorp

Watching Expose will seriously reduce your IQ.

deex

Xpose is most certainly irrelevant.
The culture of celebrity is pointless.

Neither of which sum of what "fashion" is about.

I love fashion, and I hate that people take that to mean that I obsessively follow the Kardashians.

I follow design houses, am interested in different fabrics, colours, prints, cuts... Fashion design is a creativity and an art, and while I don't design clothes myself, it's something I am interested in and appreciate, the same way people would follow painters or sculptors they like.

Kenny Bania

Wibbs wrote: »

Not really. It is very much a part of what makes us human(albeit it does change at a mach more rapid pace these days). Fashion telegraphs status, attractiveness, group allegiances for a start.

That's a good point - I'm open to being corrected, as it is a genuine query of mine.

I just never even think about what I'm wearing or what other people wear - it's just never on my radar, because it's irrelevant IMO.

stoneill

People talking about fashion

not yet

It's all soooo on point..!!

Kenny Bania

deex wrote: »

Xpose is most certainly irrelevant.
I follow design houses, am interested in different fabrics, colours, prints, cuts... Fashion design is a creativity and an art, and while I don't design clothes myself, it's something I am interested in and appreciate, the same way people would follow painters or sculptors they like.

That's another good point - but when I see Xpose, it just makes me have further disdain for what I perceive to be the entire fashion industry & the type of people that are involved in it. Glenda Gilson's massive horse-head talking complete air. Vogue Wilson (who I knew in Howth when she was a teenage airhead) actually thinking she's a somebody. It's mental - such pretentiousness.
They dressed up some aul wan, and the guy presenter literally said "swit swoo" 3 times in the 40 seconds he spoke for - such pointless nonsense. He would have said "swit swoo" no matter what she looked like - so what is the point?

Edit - found it on 3 Player.

Mr. "Swit Swoo" on the left there.

Zillah

It is completely insane and embarrassing . I've had people tell me I should or shouldn't wear something because it's the fashion, or because it is or isn't 'in', and when I ask them what that means they can never give me an answer that equates to anything more than "because someone said so".

They're not even claiming that certain things are or are not aesthetically pleasing, they talk about fashion like it's a cold front coming in from the north Atlantic - a simple reality to which we must all react.

seamus

I guess it makes people happy. The entire industry/concept is something just so far removed from my sphere of concern that I refuse to take my own opinion on it as being at all representative.

I literally cannot fathom the appeal in it whatsoever. I do not understand what enjoyment someone gets out of looking at or talking about clothes and fashion. In fact, I can't really relate to it at all. Like, I don't *get* Formula 1. It's a bunch of cars going around the same track 100 times, yawn. But I have been known to enjoy watching other sports, so I can relate to F1 on that level.

I have no similar way of relating to people who enjoy fashion. But it's for exactly this reason that I don't sneer at it really or comment on it. I am so far removed from it that I don't even feel like I understand it well enough to make fun of it.

wilhelm roentgen

x43r0 wrote: »

Do you remember that fella who was so good at fashion, they had to shoot him?

Is Bowie dead?

Kenny Bania

seamus wrote: »

I guess it makes people happy. The entire industry/concept is something just so far removed from my sphere of concern that I refuse to take my own opinion on it as being at all representative.

I literally cannot fathom the appeal in it whatsoever. I do not understand what enjoyment someone gets out of looking at or talking about clothes and fashion. In fact, I can't really relate to it at all. Like, I don't *get* Formula 1. It's a bunch of cars going around the same track 100 times, yawn. But I have been known to enjoy watching other sports, so I can relate to F1 on that level.

I have no similar way of relating to people who enjoy fashion. But it's for exactly this reason that I don't sneer at it really or comment on it. I am so far removed from it that I don't even feel like I understand it well enough to make fun of it.

I agree. I'm not qualified to talk about - which is why I'm open to being corrected (Wibbs and deeks made good points above).
But what it fundamentally boils down to for me, is that I just don't understand how it matters what anyone wears.

The Backwards Man

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ancapailldorcha

Foodieism.

Sleepy

While I've no interest in it myself, I can understand the interest in clothing / wanting to look good to an extent. What I'll never be able to understand is how a handbag made by some poor 7 year old in Taiwan they're paying a dollar a day is worth hundreds of euros.

OldGoat

I love a good fashion. I fashion here, I fashion there. I doff my hat to Louis XIV and Jean-Baptiste Colbert for the calculated invention of Couture. Hear me sing the praises of Alexander McQueen and oggle at my perfectly preserved Jamie Reid T-Shirt.

Kev W

wilhelm roentgen wrote: »

Is Bowie dead?

There was an attempt made but at the last second he unexpectedly turned to the left.

Billy86

stoneill wrote: »

People talking about fashion

On fleek. The term you were looking for was on fleek.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to bash my skull in beyond recognition with a hammer until I forget ever hearing about anything being 'on fleek'.

topper75

I don't follow fashion, but occasionally (very occasionally) it follows me.

I got a denim jacket lately. Wanted one for 25 years since the last one was drunkenly left in some disco, and eventually found one that fits and looks OK.

As I was handing over the cash, herself was shaking her head in despair at the latest manifestation of my questionable taste. I was happy though - the jacket was 'me'.

Then the sales guy ruins it all by trying to explain that denim jackets are now becoming hip again. Not really what I wanted. Piss off hipsters and let an old man be.

smash

I see the latest fashion is to strap people to you, kind of in a 69 position!

BattleCorp

smash wrote: »

I see the latest fashion is to strap people to you, kind of in a 69 position!

Yeah, I'm not normally into fashion but I'd probably give that a go, especially that second picture. :cool:

El_Duderino 09

Wibbs wrote:

Not really. It is very much a part of what makes us human(albeit it does change at a mach more rapid pace these days). Fashion telegraphs status, attractiveness, group allegiances for a start.

Not just humans. There's an element of maximising appearance in all animals I'd say. It's in the interest of sexual selection. We even borrow the term 'peacocking' from the animal Kingdom. I'm pretty sure the urge to be the most appealing person in the room is fairly deep rooted. If you enjoy the repartee on Expose then you probably won't talk anyone onto bed so you have to look your best.

Fashion is a fairly human/capatalist spin on the convention as it changes from season to season.

I enjoy going to the gym and feeling physically fit which is probably the same urge to look good. I couldn't have a conversation about the gym for more than a fee sentences though. People who go on and on about their work out are about as boring as the expose crew.

Medusa22

smash wrote: »

I see the latest fashion is to strap people to you, kind of in a 69 position!

BattleCorp wrote: »

Yeah, I'm not normally into fashion but I'd probably give that a go, especially that second picture. :cool:

Definitely a new-found interest in fashion myself, the last photo was my favourite

Banjo String

It may make or break me, but I've got to buy the best, I'm just a dedicated follower of fashion.

looksee

While designers are scraping the barrel looking for ever more ridiculous things for models to do/show on the catwalk, that leaves the rest of us free to wear what we want.

I couldn't take more than a passing interest in fashion (though I did buy some narrow cut jeans and trousers - they called them straight cut, but they look narrow to me) but what harm if people want to be interested? Takes all sorts.

justchecked

The latest spawning of a UK royal.

when a royal spawns an offspring, females lose their sht.

then its all over my internet and tele.

shouldn't be allowed.

sonny.knowles

Atheism, veganism and PC crap?

Just Another Girl

If I like something il buy it, and wear it....to death!
Dont care if its 'last season' , does it fit? Look alright? Ok then!

Dr.Internet

I'm a dedicated follower of fashion. My clothes are loud but never square. I do my little rounds, through all the boutiques of London Town. Eagerly pursuing all the latest fads and trends. It will make or break you so you've got to buy the best.

Tarzana2

I love clothes, stylish clothes but find that some people just take it way, way too seriously. Talking about it in a po-faced manner and whatnot.

Harry Palmr

Fashion is without question that area of creativity that attracts the most vapid and utterly smackable classes of people. Most of them seem to be away with the fairies.

wakka12

Well I disagree. Its an art form for some people, its a way people express themselves and present themselves to everyone around them. Everyone dresses uniquely...I find that interesting personally. Im not big into fashion so I don't want to seem like Im fiercely defending it but to say its useless is just silly imo. Everyone wears clothes, all day long and the fashion industry and the retail stores supporting it employ millions worldwide.

If you think fashion is useless I don't see how you could make a case that art is useful or beneficial to society, which I think it is. Both are

Cody montana

I always judge people on their attire.

wakka12

Cody montana wrote: »

I always judge people on their attire.

So does everybody, whether they think they do or not.

ToddyDoody

Kenny Bania wrote: »

Was just thinking about this other other day - is there anything less important or relevant to our existence, our lives, or us as a species, than fashion?

I love seeing mediocre to poorly dressed people.

Yodeling Snake

No.

biko

Music.

Music is on par with fashion for irrelevance.
Or just about any type of entertainment is pretty useless.

kingchess

Seen some clips of fashion shows while channel hopping,it usually seem to very skinny ladies wearing some totally weird looking and impractical "clothes",And then the Designer comes out to take a bow in front of the audience and guess what he is wearing,just an ordinary t-shirt,

Aurum

Kenny Bania wrote: »

I'm just back from staying in a hotel with 3 channels, and Xpose was on in the background while we packed, and it's just 30mins of airheads talking air - literally nothing of substance. "Celebrities" arriving at some awards show dressed up, and some interviewer asks them about what arbitrary bit of fabric they decided to drape over their body that evening - it just seems so silly.

I love fashion but hate celebrity culture with a passion. The two aren't synonymous. I think fashion as a form of self expression can be a very interesting thing. Cuts, proportions, colour combinations, how a person wants to present themselves that day; all very interesting to me. I do think that Irish men in particular though are very wary of fashion, or trying to wear anything remotely unusual. It's a pity, a well cut men's suit is a beautiful thing.

Kenny Bania wrote: »

I'm not even big into sport - but it has a point - competition, winning, etc. Competing to be the best.

Nah, sport is fairly pointless. I love sport, I've followed three with varying degrees of obsession since I was a kid. It's utterly pointless though, just an enjoyable communal distraction.

The Backwards Man

The Backwards Man wrote: »

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Summer wind

Every summer the marine look arrives with sailor stripes everywhere. Every autumn brown is the new black. Same old same old. I don't think good style ever goes out of fashion and every girl does love a sharp dressed man.

mynameis905

I see nothing wrong with taking a healthy interest and pride in how one dresses. If I need a new shirt I might as well spend a bit of time finding one with a fit that looks good, a colour that suits me and a fabric that isn't overly casual or formal. I apply the same logic to every other item of clothing and the result is a reasonably well put together wardrobe of jeans, chinos, shirts, polos, jackets and shoes/boots that I like to think good on me and are appropriate for my age and lifestyle.

In terms of the fashion industry itself and things being 'in' and 'out' of fashion every few months then yes I agree - it seems to be an utterly vapid waste of time. I'd rather take out my own eyeballs with a spoon than watch something like expose.

PyeContinental

smash wrote: »

I see the latest fashion is to strap people to you, kind of in a 69 position!

Wow, that's straight from the "you couldn't make it up" file.
Did you notice the reference to the previous haute-couture fashion in that article? Side-peen. :pac:
♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
I'm a model, you know what I mean
and I shake my little [side-peen] on the catwalk :rolleyes:

pickarooney

MagicIRL wrote: »

People like to be creative and fashion is essentially expression of self to a degree.

Whatever floats your boat, really.

Is it not the complete opposite? How is following some arbitrary, ever-changing rule an expression of anything?

El_Duderino 09

pickarooney wrote:

Is it not the complete opposite? How is following some arbitrary, ever-changing rule an expression of anything?

I don't want to defend expose, but that's like asking how can a musician be creative if they're just playing by the arbitrary, ever changing rules of music

c_man

I don't get the likes of Xpose, or how women can spend hours reading fashion magazines. But I'm sure they derive some pleasure from it, and looking good is something so fundamental that we can all relate to the industry to some degree.

That's not to say I'm fashionable at all. God no.



OT: I'd give Lorraine Keane one.

mfceiling

Waiting on herself buying her brother a shirt one day.

Sales assistant "and have you got your winter wardrobe ready sir"?

Me "huh"

"Your winter wardrobe"

Me "same as my summer one only I also wear a coat"

Fcuk off out of here with this "fashion" nonsense.