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Men's love songs compared to women's

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭Gmol


    For the old break up songs ya can't beat without you by badfinger or still in love with you by Lizzy both get ya in the feels


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,572 ✭✭✭Colser


    Are you not a nice person or something? That song is about a royal cunt :p

    Leave me alone Nacho ..Im drowning in my wine glass reading some of the lyrics on here:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,363 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide




    "Into My Arms"

    I don't believe in an interventionist God
    But I know, darling, that you do
    But if I did I would kneel down and ask Him
    Not to intervene when it came to you
    Not to touch a hair on your head
    To leave you as you are
    And if He felt He had to direct you
    Then direct you into my arms

    Into my arms, O Lord
    Into my arms, O Lord
    Into my arms, O Lord
    Into my arms

    And I don't believe in the existence of angels
    But looking at you I wonder if that's true
    But if I did I would summon them together
    And ask them to watch over you
    To each burn a candle for you
    To make bright and clear your path
    And to walk, like Christ, in grace and love
    And guide you into my arms

    Into my arms, O Lord
    Into my arms, O Lord
    Into my arms, O Lord
    Into my arms

    But I believe in love
    And I know that you do too
    And I believe in some kind of path
    That we can walk down, me and you
    So keep your candles burning
    And make her journey bright and pure
    That she will keep returning
    Always and evermore

    Into my arms, O Lord
    Into my arms, O Lord
    Into my arms, O Lord
    Into my arms


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    Colser wrote: »
    Leave me alone Nacho ..Im drowning in my wine glass reading some of the lyrics on here:P

    Can of Desperado Tequila for me. That's right, I'm knacker drinking in my own house :p

    Have to say,I have never really understood people listening to love songs when they break up with someone.
    Best thing to then is listen to something like Sail On by The Commodores.

    Anyway, on topic, one of my favourite love songs of all time:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Anyone who thinks women can't write decent love songs has never listened to Taylor Swift.
    Anyone who thinks men can't write decent love songs has never listened to The Killers.

    </thread>


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭OneOfThem


    cantdecide wrote: »
    "Into My Arms"

    When I read your username I read it as a type of poison. 'Cantdecide' like Cyanide. That's all. But I love the fvck out of you 'cause great great song choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Also in response to the OP. Men have more political freedom when it comes to writing music. Women are horribly judged on their music, from feminists on one hand (Taylor Swift for instance being attacked for writing love-sick songs because 'you shouldn't be telling young women to let men bring them down' and on the other hand being attacked when she pandered to that by writing angry, defiant songs, because 'maybe after so many failed relationships it's not the guy's fault and you're just a b!tch') - Rihanna and Miley Cyrus are the same, they're asked to be role models for kids and for women so they have to write in a certain political context or get slaughtered by the feckin' entertainment media which at the moment cares far more about identity politics than actual entertainment value. "Wildest Dreams" by Taylor Swift is another good example - epically emotional song, epic music video. Lyrics slammed for promoting promiscuity and one night stands, video slammed because filming a white person's romance in Africa is "cultural appropriation" and inherently racist. Rihanna was attacked for singing "The Way You Lie" with Eminem after the Chris Brown incident because it was construed as being about liking abusive relationships, etc etc etc.

    Men don't face this political bullsh!t in nearly as bad a fashion. Eminem can write about everything from deeply missing his ex (Mockingbird and others) to violently slitting her and her new boyfriend's throat (Kim) and nobody cares, nobody tells him he shouldn't be doing it because music is music. Guys who write about being love-sick aren't attacked for "disempowering" their male audience or in other words setting a bad example, and guys who write angry songs about crappy exes aren't attacked for that either. Male music is far less politicised.

    I've been saying this for years and I think this summer a lot of people started agreeing with that hypothesis after the ridiculous backlashes against Bad Blood and Wildest Dreams (both Swift songs). Bad Blood's music video depicted her and another woman fighting and was decried because "women shouldn't put eachother down, sisters need to stick together" and all that BS, Wildest Dreams for the above-mentioned identity politics reasons.

    I have never seen a male songwriter being subjected to that amount of idiotic political vitriol for singing from the heart. Even Chris Brown after he attacked Rihanna was able to write blatantly provocative stuff like "Don't Judge Me" (seriously dude? c'mon!) and it didn't cause a political firestorm among the entertainment media.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭TheLastMohican


    Us
    I and You
    and
    You and I

    Sky and Earth
    and
    Earth and Sky.

    Forever now
    and
    Now forever

    Always has been
    Has been never.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 438 ✭✭brandnewaward


    www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7ew_jIxLa8



    seeing these guys in 3 weeks ......cant fecking wait


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Kate Bush has had a couple of heart-stopping moments in her career.



    Billie Holiday probably sang some of the saddest songs ever, all inspired by her life.



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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 323 ✭✭emigrate2012


    Nothings so bittersweet as unrequited love.

    True story... As for men/women debate? Both have their pros and cons, no winner tbh, horses for courses.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 367 ✭✭justchecked


    lots of people talking, few of them know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    the song 'I can't live if living is without you...' by Air Supply is a powerful song if you listen to singer's delivery, he does sound like he means it...

    I can't imagine he won back her heart though.. in reality he was probably a torture to live with, self-obsessed moan, leaves the toilet seat up, snores etc.

    Ive never heard Air Supply's version of this.

    I'm not mad on Mariah Carey's as I think it's a bit oversang if that makes sense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 97 ✭✭Yodeling Snake




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 97 ✭✭Yodeling Snake


    PressRun wrote: »
    Kate Bush has had a couple of heart-stopping moments in her career.



    That song should be banned from the internet. Please delete it from this thread. Any man who listens to that song at this time of the morning just simply won't be able to function properly for the rest of the day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭Autonomous Cowherd


    There is some truth in this....I find men to be more romantic and poetic, potentially.
    Men in a way can afford to be more romantic than women. We have had to be pragmatic from very young. This is the case for women globally, even in a modern age. Chores more than the brothers, appeasing tempers for fear of violence from a stronger body, stretching budgets to make ends meet, looking after health of children etc etc etc.
    These things sober a woman up. If a man becomes heart sick and poetic and takes to the drink or to the bed, it is very likely a woman will look after him in some form.
    It does not happen that way for women.
    I am not saying this is about inequality. It is simple about energy, instinct, programming. It's fine.
    Don't worry though, we do feel as poetic in our deepest hearts...for absolute sure...and go through the same wrenches. It's just there is dinner to be made and a child to be washed and life goes on.

    Edit : And speaking of Kate Bush ..The Man With the Child in his eyes, surely fits the bill. Not to mention songs by Macy Grey, Ruthie Foster, Tracey Chapman etc etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭Plryty


    Also in response to the OP. Men have more political freedom when it comes to writing music. Women are horribly judged on their music, from feminists on one hand (Taylor Swift for instance being attacked for writing love-sick songs because 'you shouldn't be telling young women to let men bring them down' and on the other hand being attacked when she pandered to that by writing angry, defiant songs, because 'maybe after so many failed relationships it's not the guy's fault and you're just a b!tch') - Rihanna and Miley Cyrus are the same, they're asked to be role models for kids and for women so they have to write in a certain political context or get slaughtered by the feckin' entertainment media which at the moment cares far more about identity politics than actual entertainment value. "Wildest Dreams" by Taylor Swift is another good example - epically emotional song, epic music video. Lyrics slammed for promoting promiscuity and one night stands, video slammed because filming a white person's romance in Africa is "cultural appropriation" and inherently racist. Rihanna was attacked for singing "The Way You Lie" with Eminem after the Chris Brown incident because it was construed as being about liking abusive relationships, etc etc etc.

    Men don't face this political bullsh!t in nearly as bad a fashion. Eminem can write about everything from deeply missing his ex (Mockingbird and others) to violently slitting her and her new boyfriend's throat (Kim) and nobody cares, nobody tells him he shouldn't be doing it because music is music. Guys who write about being love-sick aren't attacked for "disempowering" their male audience or in other words setting a bad example, and guys who write angry songs about crappy exes aren't attacked for that either. Male music is far less politicised.

    I've been saying this for years and I think this summer a lot of people started agreeing with that hypothesis after the ridiculous backlashes against Bad Blood and Wildest Dreams (both Swift songs). Bad Blood's music video depicted her and another woman fighting and was decried because "women shouldn't put eachother down, sisters need to stick together" and all that BS, Wildest Dreams for the above-mentioned identity politics reasons.

    I have never seen a male songwriter being subjected to that amount of idiotic political vitriol for singing from the heart. Even Chris Brown after he attacked Rihanna was able to write blatantly provocative stuff like "Don't Judge Me" (seriously dude? c'mon!) and it didn't cause a political firestorm among the entertainment media.

    Eh??

    Eminem was highly controversial on his earlier records for all that he said, protests and debates on tv about censoring his music. His introspection though carried him as more than just a talented gore comedy entertainer. Since then he's been largely a parody of himself, doing weak ballad songs. But you're kidding yourself if you think males can get away with saying these things.

    I'd diaagree with your assertion that females are harshly judged. Taylor swift and them might write good catchy pop music on love, but it's hardly to the same degree as the likes of Regina Spektor or huge acts like Lana Del Rey, Marina and the diamonds who don't catch the same flack


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭sadie06


    Dolly Parton: Jolene, I Will Always Love You

    Joni Mitchell: well loads of them, but A Case of You stands out.

    Carol King: again lots, but You Make Me Feel Like a Natural Woman is probably the most passionate.

    Annie Lennox: Cold, Love Song for a Vampire.

    Sheryl Crow: Strong Enough

    Tracey Thorn with Massive Attack: Protection.

    Off the top of my head…

    There are great love songs written by both sexes. Fact.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 367 ✭✭justchecked


    ten d : low hanging fruit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Van Morrison - Someone Like You.

    I know alot of girls that don't know that song and wouldn't request it, but as soon as it comes on they melt.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    How about... a Caaark love song, biy! Yes, it's DJ Daycent lamenting for beoirs lost with "Chantelle":



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭johnny osbourne


    Im not surprised all the men love Jolene since its a woman singing about another woman :)

    Ah no it is a great song.

    they played it yesterday


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 935 ✭✭✭Whitewinged


    they played it yesterday

    Who played it yesterday?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Plryty wrote: »
    Eh??

    Eminem was highly controversial on his earlier records for all that he said, protests and debates on tv about censoring his music. His introspection though carried him as more than just a talented gore comedy entertainer. Since then he's been largely a parody of himself, doing weak ballad songs. But you're kidding yourself if you think males can get away with saying these things.

    I'd diaagree with your assertion that females are harshly judged. Taylor swift and them might write good catchy pop music on love, but it's hardly to the same degree as the likes of Regina Spektor or huge acts like Lana Del Rey, Marina and the diamonds who don't catch the same flack

    Amy Winehouse and Adele also made careers out of writing about love and heartbreak. Amy Winehouse's Back to Black sold very well and was critically acclaimed. Adele's last album sold very well too, and it's almost sacrilegious to say anything bad about her. I think a lot depends on whether the music comes from a real place or not. Nobody is going to criticize a woman for writing love songs if it's genuine, but if it feels a bit soulless or like a bit of a cash-in (which I think it does with the likes of Taylor Swift), then yeah, they might get a bit of flak for selling something fake, but dressing it up as though it's real. I happen to feel the same way about Ed Sheeran. His songs make me cringe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,572 ✭✭✭Colser


    Who played it yesterday?

    The men of course:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭sadie06


    On Amy Winehouse, this is one of the greatest love songs of al time in my opinion:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 123 ✭✭Do Me Good


    "Wildest Dreams" by Taylor Swift is another good example - epically emotional song, epic music video.
    Well the video doesn't count for anything... only to dumb millennials.

    Just listened to it. You talk about it as if it's John Lennon song or something, and not just another typical modern sounding song that's ultimately for the cash-in.

    How come your name is Patrick if you're a girl?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    I think this answers the question...



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 123 ✭✭Do Me Good


    Oh thanks, hadn't seen this.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 935 ✭✭✭Whitewinged



    I have never seen a male songwriter being subjected to that amount of idiotic political vitriol for singing from the heart. Even Chris Brown after he attacked Rihanna was able to write blatantly provocative stuff like "Don't Judge Me" (seriously dude? c'mon!) and it didn't cause a political firestorm among the entertainment media.

    Hatrick, dont you mean "i have never ever ever" :)


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