Motors Chat - Round 9

Noccy_Mondy · 11-10-2015 08:03PM

CIP4 wrote: »

:pac:

I'd say more unlucky than sh!te at the moment. I may attach a few lumps of rubber to the bumpers.

Speaking of those, you'd often see the likes of newer yaris' and corollas with black rub strips along the sides and corners of the bumpers. I'm assiming they're dealer fitted? They look shyte either way.

CIP4 · 11-10-2015 08:05PM

Noccy_Mondy wrote: »

Speaking of those, you'd often see the likes of newer yaris' and corollas with black rub strips along the sides and corners of the bumpers. I'm assiming they're dealer fitted? They look shyte either way.

There's a lot to be said for parking sensors just makes it easier granted if your paying attention it easy to not it stuff but the rare time your of game and miss judge how close you are the parking sensors will save you.

colm_mcm · 11-10-2015 08:40PM

Noccy_Mondy wrote: »

Speaking of those, you'd often see the likes of newer yaris' and corollas with black rub strips along the sides and corners of the bumpers. I'm assiming they're dealer fitted? They look shyte either way.

Yep. They're not cheap either. I used to get them colour coded, but they ended up costing serious money with paint/labour.
Some owners just wouldn't buy a Car unless it had rubbing strips.
They went out of fashion about 10/15 years ago, which is crazy dos your car ends up with loads of little dings unless you park way away from the good spaces

Supergurrier · 11-10-2015 09:46PM

My truck doesn't have parking sensors and its 3m tall too

CIP4 · 11-10-2015 10:02PM

Supergurrier wrote: »

My truck doesn't have parking sensors and its 3m tall too

Ah when I was learning to drive first passed my test drove our Renault master lwb a bit the odd time with a 12 foot ifor Williams trailer on it for carrying stuff to work. I actually never really drove cars until I was on the road at 17 but always drove vans around the yard from 12 onwards. So it not that the megane is too big for me and I can't manouvre it but I meant the parking sensor would be handy for the one off day you have. I remember when I first got my theory you know you wouldn't be the best for the first 3 days or so getting used to high speed or whatever but I remember my first lesson with my driving instructor he was shocked at my parking ability the yard was tight with the vans growing up so I could park and drive at low speed perfectly not much else though :pac:

I kind of miss the bigger vans great massive mirrors and high up driving position.

Ded_Zebra · 11-10-2015 11:46PM

Went to a classic car show in Swords this afternoon. Bought a Haynes workshop manual for a Rover SD1 3500. Fantastically interesting as all Haynes manuals are. Now just to buy the car...

Toyotafanboi · 11-10-2015 11:49PM

sad but true. any Haynes manual i've ever bough acquired i end up pretty much reading cover to cover, doesn't even really matter what car it's for :pac:.

Ded_Zebra · 11-10-2015 11:58PM

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

sad but true. any Haynes manual i've ever bough acquired i end up pretty much reading cover to cover, doesn't even really matter what car it's for :pac:.

My favourite bit of them is always the translation section between English and American

Reading the procedure for rebuilding the carbs at the moment. SU carbs are mysterious

dr.fuzzenstein · 12-10-2015 12:07AM

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

Went to a classic car show in Swords this afternoon. Bought a Haynes workshop manual for a Rover SD1 3500. Fantastically interesting as all Haynes manuals are. Now just to buy the car...

They are just so cool.
You can get t-shirts of them, saw a guy with the VW Type 2 transported Haynes shirt.
Instant cool, even cooler than the Doctor Who shirt that said "trust me I'm The Doctor"

Ded_Zebra · 12-10-2015 12:17AM

The next purchase is significantly more expensive!

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C653657

jimgoose · 12-10-2015 08:24AM

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

The next purchase is significantly more expensive!

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C653657...

They certainly are mega-cool, some beast of a motorcar. A friend of my father's had a yellow 3500 V8 auto, back in the day and the thing nearly put him out of business. :pac:

Did you know that Leyland made that instrument binnacle like a railway-sleeper laid atop the dash like that to cut down the cost of making LHD/RHD versions? Fact!

dr.fuzzenstein · 12-10-2015 08:45AM

jimgoose wrote: »

They certainly are mega-cool, some beast of a motorcar. A friend of my father's had a yellow 3500 V8 auto, back in the day and the thing nearly put him out of business. :pac:

Did you know that Leyland made that instrument binnacle like a railway-sleeper laid atop the dash like that to cut down the cost of making LHD/RHD versions? Fact!

The passenger airvent is the cutout for the steering column.

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As for the Haynes T-shirts:

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jimgoose · 12-10-2015 08:48AM

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

The passenger airvent is the cutout for the steering column.

Egad, so it does. BL in "genuinely clever" shocker!! :pac:

dr.fuzzenstein · 12-10-2015 08:59AM

jimgoose wrote: »

Egad, so it does. BL in "genuinely clever" shocker!! :pac:

Narf!

jimgoose · 12-10-2015 08:59AM

LIGHTNING wrote: »

I remember seeing a guy race one in a recent classic series and boy did it sound awesome. Plus it was all over the shop so it looked fun to drive. I will get one at some stage.

Cracking engine in them. The Rover V8 was originally an American engine, a small-block Buick. Rover bought it in 1965. Being all aluminium they need OAT/HOAT coolant, or else all Hell breaks loose, as many discovered in the old days. :pac:

Ded_Zebra · 12-10-2015 09:18AM

A lot of what they did with the SD1 was very clever, Like the instrument binnacle that was already mentioned.

The Rover P6, predecessor of the SD1, had a complex independent rear suspension (can't remember what set up exactly). This was time consuming and costly to make, it also created more points of potential design weakness. So for the SD1 it was replaced with a live rear axle!! Cheap, hard wearing and simple. Very cleverly they realised that the buying public didn't actually care too much what it was like mechanically as long as it was reliable. Where they spent the money on the SD1 was on improving the things that the driver and passenger actually see and make it very modern liking and feeling. In 1982 the Vitesse came with the following standard equipment, trip computer, digital clock, stereo radio/cassette player with four speakers, electrical aerial, sliding steel sunroof, electrically operated, bronze tinted windows and central locking.

fancy pigeon · 12-10-2015 09:26AM

Gotta say that's a car I'd love to get a go in

Ever see the liver run? Police video from 1987 where a liver had to be transported to central London using a pair of SD1's :cool:

dr.fuzzenstein · 12-10-2015 09:35AM

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

A lot of what they did with the SD1 was very clever, Like the instrument binnacle that was already mentioned.

The Rover P6, predecessor of the SD1, had a complex independent rear suspension (can't remember what set up exactly). This was time consuming and costly to make, it also created more points of potential design weakness. So for the SD1 it was replaced with a live rear axle!! Cheap, hard wearing and simple. Very cleverly they realised that the buying public didn't actually care too much what it was like mechanically as long as it was reliable. Where they spent the money on the SD1 was on improving the things that the driver and passenger actually see and make it very modern liking and feeling. In 1982 the Vitesse came with the following standard equipment, trip computer, digital clock, stereo radio/cassette player with four speakers, electrical aerial, sliding steel sunroof, electrically operated, bronze tinted windows and central locking.

Now I'm wondering how a P6 compares to an SD1 in handling, since the SD1 has genuine 50's tech underpinning it.
British cars of that era never really stood for innovation in my eyes, it was more a bit of bling thrown in to detract from the fact that underneath it's all very much behind the times. I'm just amazed they didn't give it leaf springs.

If I didn't know, I would say the SD1 layout is straight from the 50's/60's and the P6 was the next model.
Don't much fancy having to service to inboard brakes though. Would have to be a P6 for me. Much nicer looking.

Alanstrainor · 12-10-2015 10:06AM

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

If I didn't know, I would say the SD1 layout is straight from the 50's/60's and the P6 was the next model.
Don't much fancy having to service to inboard brakes though. Would have to be a P6 for me. Much nicer looking.

Jesus, doing the brakes looks like a nightmare!

jimgoose · 12-10-2015 10:24AM

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

...The Rover P6, predecessor of the SD1, had a complex independent rear suspension (can't remember what set up exactly)...

It's known as a De Dion Tube.

5W30 · 12-10-2015 11:37AM

My starter solenoid isn't sticking any more after starting the engine ever since I replaced the battery.

Hmm. 2 birds with 1 stone :pac:

colm_mcm · 12-10-2015 11:45AM

LIGHTNING wrote: »

I always love inboard brakes, I think the Alfa 75 was the last proper large scale production car with them I think (somebody will probably prove me wrong on this).

Hummer H1.

jimgoose · 12-10-2015 11:49AM

colm_mcm wrote: »

Hummer H1.

Aye. That's on account of the oddball "portal gear" final drive arrangement, that gives it massive ground-clearance.

bear1 · 12-10-2015 11:53AM

Think I have finally made my mind up as to what will replace the Honda. I'll give a hint, it's a V6 diesel

colm_mcm · 12-10-2015 11:54AM

2.7 S Type?

fancy pigeon · 12-10-2015 11:57AM

I hope either that or a V6 Merc diesel

bear1 · 12-10-2015 11:57AM

Nope and nope

It is German though

jimgoose · 12-10-2015 11:58AM

bear1 wrote: »

Nope and nope It is German though

530D. No, wait - 1942 Volkswagen Kübelwagen with a Land Rover Discovery III engine?? :pac:

YbFocus · 12-10-2015 12:01PM

jimgoose wrote: »

530D.

They're inline

TDI A6?

jimgoose · 12-10-2015 12:02PM

YbFocus wrote: »

They're inline

Bleh!

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