Fire at a halting site in Dublin Mod Warning Post #1

vetinari · 10-10-2015 07:37PM

mucksavage1985 wrote: »

anyone agree with me that crime will drop in the area?

Comments like this are disgusting.
It's funny how we ignore our own bigotry at home when giving out about other countries.

mucksavage1985 · 10-10-2015 07:37PM

My name is URL wrote: »

From what I've read, the people living at that site were law abiding folk and an active and welcome part of the wider community, so no.

Don't always believe what you read in the papers! There was an article in the star this week about a traveller killed in car accident after apparent robberies. It portrays them as normal law abiding people. COULDNT BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 10-10-2015 07:37PM

mucksavage1985 wrote: »

anyone agree with me that crime will drop in the area?

Can the depravity of some get any lower? Deplorable comment.

Alexis Sanchez · 10-10-2015 07:39PM

Icepick wrote: »

Irish Daily Mail

Nope. One is left wing, the other is right wing.

G_R · 10-10-2015 07:39PM

Mod

Mucksavage1985

Those kind of comments aren't on. Anymore you'll find yourself banned.

Nobody else reply to any of his posts.

LynnGrace · 10-10-2015 07:41PM

Horrific tragedy, simply horrific.

CardinalJ · 10-10-2015 07:41PM

This whole thread is depressing, for a variety of reasons.

I don't know what purpose it serves at this point.

Pr!cks getting their kicks on a Saturday seem to be the main beneficiary.

Azalea · 10-10-2015 07:46PM

CardinalJ wrote: »

This whole thread is depressing, for a variety of reasons.

I don't know what purpose it serves at this point.

Pr!cks getting their kicks on a Saturday seem to be the main beneficiary.

In fairness, most people are very sympathetic - the ones unwilling to respect that people, including children, have been killed, just because of the community they were born into, are the minority on this thread.

jaykay74 · 10-10-2015 07:52PM

Some really horrible cold hearted people around here

uck51js9zml2yt · 10-10-2015 07:52PM

Hatless wrote: »

In fairness, most people are very sympathetic - the ones unwilling to respect that people, including children, have been killed, just because of the community they were born into, are the minority.

Very true.
I've a family member who married a traveller. Her family are more honest and law abiding than a lot of so called "settled people"

mucksavage1985 · 10-10-2015 07:52PM

Apologies to anyone offended. Pauric Nally should be in jail for shooting that poor traveller frog ward. What has our society come to. People thought mr Nally was right l. Isn't that terrible. The Corcoran family in Tipperary should have let them nice gentlemen rob there house easily and not have them tie them up and terrorise their children. Shame on the Corcoran family.

Aineoil · 10-10-2015 07:53PM

In general after hours is a 'free for all" for people to vent.

But what happened in the early hours of this morning is tragic. Basically a whole family has died. It's so horrible and their living

conditions were deplorable considering Ireland is supposed to be a first world country.

"Scene is preserved and the Garda Technical Bureau has commenced their investigation." - I would have thought that was the norm

when something as awful as this happens.

jaykay74 · 10-10-2015 07:54PM

mucksavage1985 wrote:

Apologies to anyone offended. Pauric Nally should be in jail for shooting that poor traveller frog ward. What has our society come to. People thought mr Nally was right l. Isn't that terrible. The Corcoran family in Tipperary should have let them nice gentlemen rob there house easily and not have them tie them up and terrorise their children. Shame on the Corcoran family.

Can't argue with stupidity I'm afraid

eviltwin · 10-10-2015 07:55PM

mucksavage1985 wrote: »

Apologies to anyone offended. Pauric Nally should be in jail for shooting that poor traveller frog ward. What has our society come to. People thought mr Nally was right l. Isn't that terrible. The Corcoran family in Tipperary should have let them nice gentlemen rob there house easily and not have them tie them up and terrorise their children. Shame on the Corcoran family.

Grow up. Children are dead, a six month old baby is dead. A young child is in hospital probably orphaned having lost their entire family. You should be ashamed of yourself.

G_R · 10-10-2015 07:56PM

mucksavage1985 wrote: »

Apologies to anyone offended. Pauric Nally should be in jail for shooting that poor traveller frog ward. What has our society come to. People thought mr Nally was right l. Isn't that terrible. The Corcoran family in Tipperary should have let them nice gentlemen rob there house easily and not have them tie them up and terrorise their children. Shame on the Corcoran family.

Mod

Just couldn't resist could you.

Banned

Azalea · 10-10-2015 07:57PM

mucksavage1985 wrote: »

Apologies to anyone offended. Pauric Nally should be in jail for shooting that poor traveller frog ward. What has our society come to. People thought mr Nally was right l. Isn't that terrible. The Corcoran family in Tipperary should have let them nice gentlemen rob there house easily and not have them tie them up and terrorise their children. Shame on the Corcoran family.

That's very poor arguing. People can criticise the scum (not all of whom are travellers) who attacked the Corcoran family, while simultaneously having sympathy for this family, including very small children. Surely you can see there's a bit more than being travellers to make them deserve the same contempt as the Corcorans' attackers and Frog Ward?

Aineoil wrote: »

conditions were deplorable considering Ireland is supposed to be a first world country.

In fairness, the state/society aren't responsible for this.

martingriff · 10-10-2015 08:06PM

mucksavage1985 wrote: »

Apologies to anyone offended. Pauric Nally should be in jail for shooting that poor traveller frog ward. What has our society come to. People thought mr Nally was right l. Isn't that terrible. The Corcoran family in Tipperary should have let them nice gentlemen rob there house easily and not have them tie them up and terrorise their children. Shame on the Corcoran family.

I have not seen 1 post here who have said all travellers are sweet and inocent. Yes there are gangster and horrible travlers DOES THAT MEAN THERE CAN'T BE NICE ONES. You know there are horrible "settled people" does that mean we are all horrible

Sorry mods just had to answer

AppleBottle · 10-10-2015 08:08PM

Extremely tragic news today. Thoughts are with the families.

Streetwalker · 10-10-2015 08:19PM

Some of the comments on here are simply sickening. Nobody gives a sh it what you morons think of travellers or their way of life people have been burned to death children ffs and numpties think it's acceptable to make dumbass stereotypical comments. Grow the hell up

JFlah · 10-10-2015 08:26PM

Who gives a **** what ethnicity/culture people belong to there are good and bad everywhere. At the end of the day this is a terrible tragedy and the surviving family deserve all our sympathies, they certainly have mine.

Aineoil · 10-10-2015 08:27PM

In fairness, the state/society aren't responsible for this.[/QUOTE]

We are really. If people live in conditions that are unsafe we have a duty of

care.

Sunny Dayz · 10-10-2015 08:29PM

Can not believe that so many people could die in a house fire!! I'm guessing they didn't have a smoke alarm. It should be mandatory that every home have one and they should be free of charge.

Qualitymark · 10-10-2015 08:37PM

Sunny Dayz wrote: »

Can not believe that so many people could die in a house fire!! I'm guessing they didn't have a smoke alarm. It should be mandatory that every home have one and they should be free of charge.

The Council, which owns the site, say there were smoke alarms, wired-in ones. But we forget how fast a fire kills. Four in the morning, everyone fast asleep, the smoke billows out - the alarm goes off and there's wild confusion, and people are completely disoriented, trying to find the doors, trying to find the children, and they're overcome in no time. Little children hide, people spend time trying to find them. It is so easy to die in a fire. Few of us have been trained in what to do - keep down low, get to the edge of a room and work your way around. And even if you're trained, if your children are screaming for help, that flies out of your head.

xzanti · 10-10-2015 09:04PM

Just horrendous.. Hopefully it was quick, or they just didn't wake up.

It is beyond tragic.

SKETT · 10-10-2015 09:07PM

Qualitymark wrote: »

The Council, which owns the site, say there were smoke alarms, wired-in ones. But we forget how fast a fire kills. Four in the morning, everyone fast asleep, the smoke billows out - the alarm goes off and there's wild confusion, and people are completely disoriented, trying to find the doors, trying to find the children, and they're overcome in no time. Little children hide, people spend time trying to find them. It is so easy to die in a fire. Few of us have been trained in what to do - keep down low, get to the edge of a room and work your way around. And even if you're trained, if your children are screaming for help, that flies out of your head.

Fully agreed. Also to add, Friday night, social gathering (2 families together) there may have been alcohol consumed which can add to the disorientation and cause your body to burn up quicker. Those poor children probably never stood a chance.

blackwhite · 10-10-2015 09:28PM

Dan_Solo wrote: »

The announcement of whether it's suspicious or not always comes from the police. I've never heard the fire services do it.

Latest news is:
At a press conference this afternoon, Chief Superintendent Diarmuid O'Sullivan, said that the scene is preserved and the Garda Technical Bureau has commenced their investigation.

If you read the stories published earlier there's some massive hints as to what the cause of the fire was, and why the Gardai and DFB are so sure it wasn't arson.

sonofenoch · 10-10-2015 09:51PM

Sunny Dayz wrote: »

Can not believe that so many people could die in a house fire!! I'm guessing they didn't have a smoke alarm. It should be mandatory that every home have one and they should be free of charge.

I've often wondered how anyone could die in a house fire....look around your own house and you'd think there's no way I could perish in here but it's a fact that it's smoke and fumes kill before any flames, unimaginable really and a horrible way for anyone to die

nullzero · 10-10-2015 10:05PM

This is a horrible tragedy, a human tragedy, this certainly isn't the time for differentiating between communities. Travellers are naturally a sub section of society who polarise opinions and I personally have had a lot of bad experiences with them, and some good experiences too, they don't want to be like the rest of us for better or worse, but the death of ten human beings, so many of them children doesn't open a debate over the minutiae of traveller and settled community relations.

deex · 10-10-2015 10:51PM

Absolutely tragic news... I can't begin to imagine the heartbreak and pain of being in a housefire and not being able to find family members.

May they rest in peace together.

Axel Lamp · 10-10-2015 10:51PM

My response upon learning it happened at a halting site: meh

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