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Is Political Correctness gone over the top?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Don't know how that happened. Only posted it once, honest!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    Ryan Tubridy responded by saying, "Okay, well that's one of the more peculiar suggestions I've heard."


    Top Class work Ryan!
    I can see why he gets the big-bucks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,696 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    So tell us how many homeless people have you taken into your home?

    Presumably he has not made loud noises on social media about how generous he intends to be towards refugees so this question is irrelevant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,088 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Can't say anything any more. Literally shot on site for causing offence.

    Nope. They didn't even silence him. They aired an entire interview with him. They simply cut a joke which is a bit out of order considering the situation in Syria. Turning the vulnerable refugees into sexy 20 somethings running about his huge mansion ala Hugh Hefner... it's only funny it until you think about what it actually means. Not nice really.

    It's grand to joke about almost anything in private. His joke probably ought not be aired to the general public though.

    I don't think any less of the guy for making a joke. Just best not to broadcast it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    Nope. They didn't even silence him. They aired an entire interview with him. They simply cut a joke which is a bit out of order considering the situation in Syria. Turning the vulnerable refugees into sexy 20 somethings running about his huge mansion ala Hugh Hefner... it's only funny it until you think about what it actually means. Not nice really.

    It's grand to joke about almost anything in private. His joke probably ought not be aired to the general public though.

    I don't think any less of the guy for making a joke. Just best not to broadcast it.

    Oh I was being full-on sarcastic (I hoped it would be hyperbolic enough). People who think this counts as censorship are morons.

    Everyone can have an opinion/make a statement, but no one is required to listen. This clearly upsets some people whose views have become outdated as of late.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,101 ✭✭✭✭lertsnim


    Editing it only brought the remark to a wider audience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Can't say anything any more. Literally shot on site for causing offence.

    Yes. There are PC Brigade hit squads roaming the streets, summarily executing people that make off-colour jokes.

    This is actually happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,088 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Oh I was being full-on sarcastic (I hoped it would be hyperbolic enough). People who think this counts as censorship are morons.

    Ah fair one. My mistake. It's the kind of thing I was expecting someone to say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Tubridy needs to get on Sirius XM.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,360 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    Tubridy needs to get on Sirius XM.

    I'd love to here a conversation between himself and Dennis Falcone...a likable dry sh1te vs an unlikable dry sh1te...it would be car crash radio


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Hans Bricks


    Aaaaahhhhh sense if humor !! *covers eyes*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Yes. There are PC Brigade hit squads roaming the streets, summarily executing people that make off-colour jokes.

    This is actually happening.

    In Paris and Dhaka it is, but it is not happening in Ireland thanks to the successful eradication of all banter/discussion/humour by the neo-puritan radicals who roam the Universities and message boards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Hitchens wrote: »
    http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/radio/rte-edits-out-offensive-comments-about-syrian-refugees-made-by-guinness-heir-on-ryan-tubridys-radio-show-31589812.html

    An innocuous jokey remark, no malice intended, and they censor it .......c'mon ffs, how is this PC stuff making society better?
    YOU GOT A PC PROBLEM BRAH??!

    http://www.manlymovie.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/southpark-1.jpg

    *probably done to death at this stage but I don't care.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    Went over the top years ago.

    It's a complete joke now, go back to when people could say whatever they want.

    I blame the Greeks, they invented gayness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    Wompa1 wrote: »
    I'd love to here a conversation between himself and Dennis Falcone...a likable dry sh1te vs an unlikable dry sh1te...it would be car crash radio

    They could swap tips on hitting the post or doing cheesy themed song intros.

    While someone is tangentially bringing up Opie and Anthony (R.I.P), i'll paraphrase something that Lil Jimmy Norton once said: "No one has the right to not be offended".

    **** PC and everything it stands for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 976 ✭✭✭Kev_2012


    You cannot call people a baba or a crybaby because it is ageist. Not all children cry :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,208 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭ejabrod


    Yes


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 55 ✭✭You Mirin?


    If somebody says, especially during any kind of debate or argument, they're "offended" to you, your answer should be along the lines of "and? So what?"...people like these need thicker skins and to realise sometimes people can say stupid and hurtful things. Bad things happen in life and we can't help or prevent them all, but if somebody hurting your feelings is the worst thing to happen to you then count yourself lucky.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,399 ✭✭✭eeguy


    Considering the sh*t storm around Syria and the refugee crisis, suggesting that you're going to create a harem with vulnerable refugees is probably a bit OTT for a daytime chat show, even if it was a joke.

    In fairness RTE just cut the comment, didn't call him up on it, which suggests they didn't think it was that bad, just innapropriate.

    The journal are the ones blowing this out of proportion.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 843 ✭✭✭QuinDixie


    In his defense, he will be doing well to fill his house with young female Syrian refugees considering 95% are young male economic migrants.
    So he cannot be held accountable for a light joke that could never come true.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 138 ✭✭Patrick Wheelock


    Footoo wrote: »
    Quick…someone post the Stewart Lee video…….

    A tedious middle-class twat.

    Some of my FB friends like him. They're all up their own arses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Oh I was being full-on sarcastic (I hoped it would be hyperbolic enough). People who think this counts as censorship are morons.

    Everyone can have an opinion/make a statement, but no one is required to listen. This clearly upsets some people whose views have become outdated as of late.

    I wouldn't agree with Tubridy and of course nobody is required to listen, but the national broadcaster should not deny anyone a platform as far as I'm concerned. It's for the people as a whole to decide what is and is not acceptable, not a small clique of officials in RTE and the BAI. That's the dangerous part - no small group of individuals should have that kind of power in any society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    I wouldn't agree with Tubridy and of course nobody is required to listen, but the national broadcaster should not deny anyone a platform as far as I'm concerned. It's for the people as a whole to decide what is and is not acceptable, not a small clique of officials in RTE and the BAI. That's the dangerous part - no small group of individuals should have that kind of power in any society.

    lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Armchair Andy


    lol


    Reported. Why post a skinny someone with a large bellybutton on a sensitive thread such as this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭The Randy Riverbeast


    QuinDixie wrote: »
    In his defense, he will be doing well to fill his house with young female Syrian refugees considering 95% are young male economic migrants.
    So he cannot be held accountable for a light joke that could never come true.

    But isn't there meant to be 70 billion of them or something? 5% of that is still quite a lot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 437 ✭✭Pink Lemons


    Is people saying political correctness is gone over the top gone over the top?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,088 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I wouldn't agree with Tubridy and of course nobody is required to listen, but the national broadcaster should not deny anyone a platform as far as I'm concerned. It's for the people as a whole to decide what is and is not acceptable, not a small clique of officials in RTE and the BAI. That's the dangerous part - no small group of individuals should have that kind of power in any society.

    I can't agree with that. It was a joke. It wasn't an important political or social message which was censored because the powers that be oppose it. It was a joke that was a bit off colour. Nobody is trying to stop the guy making jokes about sexy refugees, RTE just choose not to air it because it could easily be seen as offensive. The rest of the interview went out.

    Not a big problem to cut the joke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭liam24


    Well you see it's a matter of perspective. Some people might think it's ridiculous to censor a joke about Syrian refugees, but if somebody made an off-colour joke about the Berkeley tragedy, they'd be tarred and feathered and run out of the country.


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  • Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No, THIS is political correctness gone over the top:

    http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/oct/05/meryl-streep-backlash-suffragette-t-shirt-slogan
    Meryl Streep and three other cast members of the film Suffragette have been the subject of criticism online, after appearing in a photo shoot last week wearing T-shirts featuring a controversial slogan.

    “I’d rather be a rebel than a slave,” the slogan read, quoting a 1913 speech by women’s rights activist Emmeline Pankhurst. The photos were published in Time Out London.

    On Twitter, the photos inspired ire over the alleged racial insensitivity of the use of the quote, which for some carried connotations of the American history of slavery and Confederate rebellion. While some applauded the use of the quote, others were less impressed.

    "White women have said a lot of terrible things over the course of history, doesn't mean you wear it on a shirt" - Tweeter

    “Meryl Streep has to know better. And if not, her publicist should have,” wrote activist and organizer Deray McKesson.
    Pankhurst’s full quote:
    I know that women, once convinced that they are doing what is right, that their rebellion is just, will go on, no matter what the difficulties, no matter what the dangers, so long as there is a woman alive to hold up the flag of rebellion. I would rather be a rebel than a slave.
    Because only African Americans have ever been slaves. :rolleyes:


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