Is Political Correctness gone over the top?

Hitchens

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/radio/rte-edits-out-offensive-comments-about-syrian-refugees-made-by-guinness-heir-on-ryan-tubridys-radio-show-31589812.html

An innocuous jokey remark, no malice intended, and they censor it .......c'mon ffs, how is this PC stuff making society better?

darkpagandeath

Sorry the comments did make me laugh.

SEPT 23 1989

You can only wonder at the mentality of the arseh0les that complained

RayCon

Well I read the article and frankly I'm offended ...........
































...... at people who are easily offended.

El_Duderino 09

I work for an organisation which could be described as 'PC gone mad'. You can't swear, shout, make jokes which are racist, sexist, any of the 'ists' are out. The result is the most pleasant work environment I've ever had. Everyone is treated with respect and dignity at work.

You can say what you want in the pub after work. You just can't risk makeing people uncomfortable in work.

The Guinness guy was making a harmless joke but it has overtones of the sexual exploitation that goes on whenever there's a humanitarian crisis. It wasn't material to the discussion so you could make a strong argument for cutting it.

Mr Guinness (58) was on the show to talk about the sale of his home Furness House as well as the auction of 700 items including furniture and art from the house on Tuesday.

Patrick is seventh generation in direct success to Arthur Guinness and he and his second wife Louise bought Furness, set on 34 acres near Naas, Co Kildare, in 1994.

Speaking about the fact that his four children had left the house, he told Tubridy it was "probably time for a change" and they would downsize as they had just "two of us in a 15 bedroom house and full of all things we had either inherited or bought".

Asked where he would live after the auction, he replied, "First of all, we have to sell the house. We may fill it full of Syrian refugees. You never know."

Tubridy replied, "That would be a very generous thing to do if it's for real," and Mr Guinness added, "Preferably female aged between 20 and 30."

Ryan Tubridy responded by saying, "Okay, well that's one of the more peculiar suggestions I've heard."

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Menas

Irrelevant old Toff makes stupid remark.

The only people they are protecting by censoring his remark is himself.

The Backwards Man

I don't think that's over the top, but this is;


Meet me halfway across the sky, out where the world belongs to only you and I.

darkpagandeath

Thank our lucky stars we don't have a person like Prince Philip.

DeadHand

Bad, mildly creepy joke.

It would have been better to edited it out on the basis of being a bad, mildly creepy joke than speaking loftily about it being "offensive" but, as it is, those utterances are no great loss to national discourse.

As a side note, exactly no-one in this country intends to actually take Syrian refugees into their homes. Of course, hundreds pledged to. On social media. Very loudly. Very publicly. This was virtue signalling at its most blatant; what could possibly be more wonderfully tolerant than taking brown strangers into your home? Never mind the fact none of these people had the slightest intention of doing so, it's the showing off that counts. If people really were so generous with their own homes we would not be experiencing an unprecedented homelessness crisis.

I'd venture that most of these keyboard saints who were so eager to let the world know all they would personally sacrifice for people born thousands of miles away would throw themselves under a truck before dealing with a homeless compatriot.

El Weirdo

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Sorry the comments did make me laugh.

"Brigade... "? Check.
"... the left control the media"? Check.
"... loony left"? Check.
"... nazi Germany"? Check.

somesoldiers

I was doing my review in work through some new US software nonsense, below are two of the warnings I received

I was trying to say I have worked on a broad range of projects
Word: Broad
Why it might offend: Gender Orientated
Replace with Suggestion: Woman


"Short term" was the phrase I used
Word: Short
Why it might offend: Negative Connotations
Replace with Suggestion: none


Am gonna have a play round with it now see what else it comes up with

Sam Kade

DeadHand wrote: »

Bad, mildly creepy joke.

It would have been better to edited it out on the basis of being a bad, mildly creepy joke than speaking loftily about it being "offensive" but, as it is, those utterances are no great loss to national discourse.

As a side note, exactly no-one in this country intends to actually take Syrian refugees into their homes. Of course, hundreds pledged to. On social media. Very loudly. Very publicly. This was virtue signalling at its most blatant; what could possibly be more wonderfully tolerant than taking brown strangers into your home? Never mind the fact none of these people had the slightest intention of doing so, it's the showing off that counts. If people really were so generous with their own homes we would not be experiencing an unprecedented homelessness crisis.

I'd venture that most of these keyboard saints who were so eager to let the world know all they would personally sacrifice for people born thousands of miles away would throw themselves under a truck before dealing with a homeless compatriot.

So tell us how many homeless people have you taken into your home?

Lux23

I don't they should have censored the remark, Tubridy should have called him on it and we all could have enjoyed listening to the man trying to explain his silly remark.

DeadHand

Sam Kade wrote: »

So tell us how many homeless people have you taken into your home?

Was I talking about me?

Sam Kade

DeadHand wrote: »

Was I talking about me?

Practice what you preach and all that

El_Duderino 09

Lux23 wrote:

I don't they should have censored the remark, Tubridy should have called him on it and we all could have enjoyed listening to the man trying to explain his silly remark.

Why? I thought the remark was probably harmless between 2 people but RTE have to think about the broader context.

T. What do you mean? Would you extort sex from them in exchange for shelter? Step 1 on Maslow's hierarchy of needs!

G. No. That's not what I meant.

T. Better not be. Sick puppy.

There'll be someone in shortly to tell us PC doesn't exist. I anxiously await their arrival.

Footoo

Quick…someone post the Stewart Lee video…….

seamus

"Editorial decision" my hole.

I suspect that upon sober review, Mr. Guinness realised that clip could be used to embarrass him if played at a later date and so had his solcitor contact RTE to "request" that it be edited out of the published programme.

Can you imagine if they reprimanded Prince Philip after each time he said something much worse and more offensive?

DeadHand

Sam Kade wrote: »

Practice what you preach and all that

What are you on about?

I didn't preach about what should be done about refugees or the homeless issue.

Winky faces do not excuse you talking through your hole.

Old Jakey

If the pc nuts got their way we'd live a joyless, boring society and where is regulated to the max to make sure some crybaby doesn't get his feelings hurt.

hatrickpatrick

Censorship is dangerous. And we're sleepwalking back into a censored society after a few decades of relative freedom, under the guise of protecting people.

darkpagandeath

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Censorship is dangerous. And we're sleepwalking back into a censored society after a few decades of relative freedom, under the guise of protecting people.

Aye swap the RCC for SJW and it's exactly the same.

HardenendMan

What if he wasn't joking? As in he would genuinely like to have 20-30 year old women living in the house?

Herb Powell

Can't say anything any more. Literally shot on site for causing offence.

jackofalltrades

His comments are a little bit creepy.
That said I don't think he meant anything malicious by it.
And I don't think there's overtones of sexual explotation.

Donkey Oaty

jackofalltrades wrote: »

His comments are a little bit creepy.
That said I don't think he meant anything malicious by it.
And I don't think there's overtones of sexual explotation.

He went on to say: "And Ryan, do you know what, I'd welcome her with a song. [sings] 'Lay lady, lay....lay across my big brass baaayud....'"

Donkey Oaty

jackofalltrades wrote: »

His comments are a little bit creepy.
That said I don't think he meant anything malicious by it.
And I don't think there's overtones of sexual explotation.

He went on to say: "And Ryan, do you know what, I'd welcome her with a song. [sings] 'Lay lady, lay....lay across my big brass baaayud....'"

Donkey Oaty

jackofalltrades wrote: »

His comments are a little bit creepy.
That said I don't think he meant anything malicious by it.
And I don't think there's overtones of sexual explotation.

He went on to say: "And Ryan, do you know what, I'd welcome her with a song. [sings] 'Lay lady, lay....lay across my big brass baaayud....'"

Donkey Oaty

Don't know how that happened. Only posted it once, honest!

Barely There

Ryan Tubridy responded by saying, "Okay, well that's one of the more peculiar suggestions I've heard."


Top Class work Ryan!
I can see why he gets the big-bucks.

looksee

Sam Kade wrote: »

So tell us how many homeless people have you taken into your home?

Presumably he has not made loud noises on social media about how generous he intends to be towards refugees so this question is irrelevant.

El_Duderino 09

Herb Powell wrote:

Can't say anything any more. Literally shot on site for causing offence.

Nope. They didn't even silence him. They aired an entire interview with him. They simply cut a joke which is a bit out of order considering the situation in Syria. Turning the vulnerable refugees into sexy 20 somethings running about his huge mansion ala Hugh Hefner... it's only funny it until you think about what it actually means. Not nice really.

It's grand to joke about almost anything in private. His joke probably ought not be aired to the general public though.

I don't think any less of the guy for making a joke. Just best not to broadcast it.

Herb Powell

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Nope. They didn't even silence him. They aired an entire interview with him. They simply cut a joke which is a bit out of order considering the situation in Syria. Turning the vulnerable refugees into sexy 20 somethings running about his huge mansion ala Hugh Hefner... it's only funny it until you think about what it actually means. Not nice really.

It's grand to joke about almost anything in private. His joke probably ought not be aired to the general public though.

I don't think any less of the guy for making a joke. Just best not to broadcast it.

Oh I was being full-on sarcastic (I hoped it would be hyperbolic enough). People who think this counts as censorship are morons.

Everyone can have an opinion/make a statement, but no one is required to listen. This clearly upsets some people whose views have become outdated as of late.

lertsnim

Editing it only brought the remark to a wider audience.

El Weirdo

Herb Powell wrote: »

Can't say anything any more. Literally shot on site for causing offence.

Yes. There are PC Brigade hit squads roaming the streets, summarily executing people that make off-colour jokes.

This is actually happening.

El_Duderino 09

Herb Powell wrote:

Oh I was being full-on sarcastic (I hoped it would be hyperbolic enough). People who think this counts as censorship are morons.

Ah fair one. My mistake. It's the kind of thing I was expecting someone to say.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Tubridy needs to get on Sirius XM.

Wompa1

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Tubridy needs to get on Sirius XM.

I'd love to here a conversation between himself and Dennis Falcone...a likable dry sh1te vs an unlikable dry sh1te...it would be car crash radio

Hans Bricks

Aaaaahhhhh sense if humor !! *covers eyes*

Donkey Oaty

El Weirdo wrote: »

Yes. There are PC Brigade hit squads roaming the streets, summarily executing people that make off-colour jokes.

This is actually happening.

In Paris and Dhaka it is, but it is not happening in Ireland thanks to the successful eradication of all banter/discussion/humour by the neo-puritan radicals who roam the Universities and message boards.

Iwasfrozen

Hitchens wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/radio/rte-edits-out-offensive-comments-about-syrian-refugees-made-by-guinness-heir-on-ryan-tubridys-radio-show-31589812.html

An innocuous jokey remark, no malice intended, and they censor it .......c'mon ffs, how is this PC stuff making society better?

YOU GOT A PC PROBLEM BRAH??!

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*probably done to death at this stage but I don't care.

mdwexford

Went over the top years ago.

It's a complete joke now, go back to when people could say whatever they want.

I blame the Greeks, they invented gayness.

lawlolawl

Wompa1 wrote: »

I'd love to here a conversation between himself and Dennis Falcone...a likable dry sh1te vs an unlikable dry sh1te...it would be car crash radio

They could swap tips on hitting the post or doing cheesy themed song intros.

While someone is tangentially bringing up Opie and Anthony (R.I.P), i'll paraphrase something that Lil Jimmy Norton once said: "No one has the right to not be offended".

**** PC and everything it stands for.

Kev_2012

You cannot call people a baba or a crybaby because it is ageist. Not all children cry :pac:

Cienciano

The big story here is what a slapable face Tubridy has
http://cdn3.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/article31561413.ece/2c395/BINARY/2015-09-27_iri_13179814_I1.JPG

ejabrod

Yes

You Mirin?

If somebody says, especially during any kind of debate or argument, they're "offended" to you, your answer should be along the lines of "and? So what?"...people like these need thicker skins and to realise sometimes people can say stupid and hurtful things. Bad things happen in life and we can't help or prevent them all, but if somebody hurting your feelings is the worst thing to happen to you then count yourself lucky.

eeguy

Considering the sh*t storm around Syria and the refugee crisis, suggesting that you're going to create a harem with vulnerable refugees is probably a bit OTT for a daytime chat show, even if it was a joke.

In fairness RTE just cut the comment, didn't call him up on it, which suggests they didn't think it was that bad, just innapropriate.

The journal are the ones blowing this out of proportion.