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The Mega Mk7 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    carsfan wrote: »
    Aaargh!
    Scraped an alloy yesterday on the gti. Disgusted with myself but it's only an inch long and probably invisible to most people but not me.
    I read somewhere that these alloys are prone to corrosion if damaged. Any of you with experience know?
    Should I get this repaired or leave it. If the wheel was going to deteriorate I would repair it but otherwise I will leave it until I am selling unless I damage it further.

    Balls, I've been there and I know it's a sickner. Sure I only had the R a week and picked up a nasty stone chip - in a really obvious location too as luck would have it!

    Yes those wheels are a disaster and they will corrode eventually, whether you kerb them or not. I had a small kerb mark on both my fronts on the GTI. Sickened like you when it happened but you soon kinda forget they are there.

    Before I traded the car I could see very obvious signs of corrosion starting - on a non kerbed wheel! The area I had kerbed didn't corrode at all. Depending on where it is you could try taking the rough edge off it with some very very fine sandpaper and then dab some clear lacquer over it to stop moisture getting in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭MisterDrak


    I got the Apple Car play working properly at the weekend, and have to say its pretty good...

    The phone needs to be plugged in and unlocked, and using an official Apple charge cable (I've tried using yellow pack ones but don't work), before the car is started. Siri needs to be turned on also. After that just select the Car App icon and you get the app select screen.

    Text messages is pretty cool, and you can dictate the message and it reads the message back to you (usually getting it correct) then asks to send it. For in-bound messages it also reads out the message.

    The Music and Podcasts is an improvement in terms of ease of use of use over the in car Bluetooth Media function, looks prettier too. Maps are about the same...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    MisterDrak wrote: »
    I got the Apple Car play working properly at the weekend, and have to say its pretty good...

    The phone needs to be plugged in and unlocked, and using an official Apple charge cable (I've tried using yellow pack ones but don't work), before the car is started. Siri needs to be turned on also. After that just select the Car App icon and you get the app select screen.

    Text messages is pretty cool, and you can dictate the message and it reads the message back to you (usually getting it correct) then asks to send it. For in-bound messages it also reads out the message.

    The Music and Podcasts is an improvement in terms of ease of use of use over the in car Bluetooth Media function, looks prettier too. Maps are about the same...


    Sounds good. I'm hoping that I'll be able to get this feature enabled at some stage, as it isn't standard with the regular Nav. When I select AppConnect in the menu, I get a message telling me to contact my dealer for an activation code. The dealers don't have a clue about activating it yet but I've read that they will be able to do it in the near future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭vintagevrs


    Insurance?


    Gti/R owners, who are you insured with? My insurance is due for renewal next month and just got letter for 610 euro for renewal. I know every company is different and a lot of variables here but anyone happy with their current provider? If so, who are you with?

    I am currently with 123


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    I'm with AIG, via Chill. I don't know if I'd recommend Chill as their customer service sucks (except when you're renewing!). My premium on the R is approx €560, which is little or no change at all from the GTI I had before.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Casati


    Anybody with a GTI considering upgrading to a Golf R next week and on PCP? Any idea how VW calculate the penalty for terminating a PCP agreement after only a year?

    Ive a Superb Combi on 3.9% PCP, and after reading the positive comments about the Golf R am at early stages of wondering if I could move to a Golf R estate next year - if they tried to charge me a penalty of thousands of euro it would make my mind up quickly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Casati wrote: »
    Anybody with a GTI considering upgrading to a Golf R next week and on PCP? Any idea how VW calculate the penalty for terminating a PCP agreement after only a year?

    Ive a Superb Combi on 3.9% PCP, and after reading the positive comments about the Golf R am at early stages of wondering if I could move to a Golf R estate next year - if they tried to charge me a penalty of thousands of euro it would make my mind up quickly

    I don't think VW Ireland are going to offer the R Estate - so that could be your decision made for you!

    As far as I know, there is no penalty for early payment. You just pay the interest outstanding as of today, like any other loan (plus a small admin fee - not 100% sure on this)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭MisterDrak


    Casati wrote: »
    Anybody with a GTI considering upgrading to a Golf R next week and on PCP? Any idea how VW calculate the penalty for terminating a PCP agreement after only a year?

    Ive a Superb Combi on 3.9% PCP, and after reading the positive comments about the Golf R am at early stages of wondering if I could move to a Golf R estate next year - if they tried to charge me a penalty of thousands of euro it would make my mind up quickly

    Not 100% sure but I think its 3 Months Instalments. So think well if your only financing for 1 year...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 701 ✭✭✭carsfan


    I was told there is no problem with paying off when I bought.
    In fact the dealer said there is no problem coming in at any stage if I was thinking of changing.
    In the UK from what I have seen on other forums, the dealers typically contact you after 2 years to encourage you to order a new car.
    Can't imagine changing after a year would be cheap however. I've done it in the past and lost bundles!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Casati


    I was sure I read on one of the Irish papers that the estate was going to be made available here, if not that rules it out as the hatch is way too small for me. Id need a really good reason to change from my Superb but might look at the 280bhp Superb if one is on demo somewhere


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Casati


    Thanks for the info on the pcp, its good to know the penalty is not likely to rule it out automatically


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Casati wrote: »
    I was sure I read on one of the Irish papers that the estate was going to be made available here, if not that rules it out as the hatch is way too small for me. Id need a really good reason to change from my Superb but might look at the 280bhp Superb if one is on demo somewhere

    I'm 99% sure that they have said neither the R nor GTD estate will be available here. That's not to say they won't change their minds. Golf Estates have always been slow sellers here, that's probably the main reason.

    It would be some shock to the system (in terms of size) going from a Superb to a Golf. You could park the Golf in the Superb's boot :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭ondafly


    I love those seats and quite like the rear wing, not sure on the rest though.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 701 ✭✭✭carsfan


    How are you guys with the R finding them now you have them a while?
    Are they a step up from a gti in every way and in every day use?
    Are the running costs appreciably higher?
    Any regrets?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    carsfan wrote: »
    How are you guys with the R finding them now you have them a while?
    Are they a step up from a gti in every way and in every day use?
    Are the running costs appreciably higher?
    Any regrets?


    It's still fairly early days. Running costs definitely higher. I'm only averaging about 26.5 - 27mpg per tank at the moment. I was averaging 34-ish in the GTI with similar commutes. I reckon that'll improve a bit though as it runs in.

    It's a huge step up from the GTI performance wise. There's masses of power and grunt. However it's very hard to actually use it! My typical commute must have an abnormally high % of "Sunday drivers". So invariably I am stuck in a line of cars with little opportunity to overtake!

    The R has a few more toys and tech that I didn't have in the GTI - such as adaptive cruise and of course DSG... I love the gearbox, huge novelty factor still.

    Also the leather seats (heated) really lift the interior ambiance. I've the heaters on nearly all the time ;)

    The 5 door practicality is a massive bonus too.

    I love the looks - the colour / wheels combo especially. It's a genuine head turner.

    So overall, no regrets at all. In all honesty the GTI would do the same job 90% of the time.... but when the opportunity does arise on an open road to put the boot down, it's something else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭MisterDrak


    If I can just jump in for the new Gti owners also...

    Still love the car, and as Joe says the DSG is a great extra over the manual. Iv filled the car 3 times, so still very much in the early run in stages, but im getting 29.2 average (as opposed to 31.07 for the previous Mk7 Gti, and 28.9 for the Mk6 Gti).

    Also the technology pack extras over the previous Mk7 are a great added bonus. Though I'm still not trusting the reversing camera, preferring the mirrors instead. High beam assist, good, the Apple car play is good fun also, but to be honest more of a novelty, "talk texting" is still a nice feature.

    The DCC, while the same functionality as before does seem to be better resolved. The Sport mode coupled with the triptronic gear shift is just manic when getting close to the red line. But again as Joe says, there is just not enough opportunity to use all of the power enough of the time. Mostly I just leave the car in Eco, and Soft setup and "pootle" around...

    Possibly the best car I have yet owned :):):)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 701 ✭✭✭carsfan


    If I have a regret with my gti, it would be not speccing the dsg.
    I went for manual after years of autos and while it's great I do miss the seamlessness of a self shifter.
    Ah well next time..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭cros13


    Why not go for a GTE?

    It performs better than a GTD and you can commute on electric power alone for 1/10th the cost of diesel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭millington


    cros13 wrote: »
    Why not go for a GTE?

    It performs better than a GTD and you can commute on electric power alone for 1/10th the cost of diesel.

    It's quoted as being 0.1 seconds slower to 60 than a GTD so I don't see how that constitutes better performance? :confused: I know none of us would notice 0.1 seconds but it's hardly describable as better


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭RandomAccess


    millington wrote: »
    It's quoted as being 0.1 seconds slower to 60 than a GTD so I don't see how that constitutes better performance? :confused: I know none of us would notice 0.1 seconds but it's hardly describable as better

    It's not all about the 0-60 times, a lot of the reviews I saw preferred it to the GTD. I think the only thing it falls down on was it's price.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭cros13


    millington wrote: »
    It's quoted as being 0.1 seconds slower to 60 than a GTD so I don't see how that constitutes better performance? :confused: I know none of us would notice 0.1 seconds but it's hardly describable as better

    What I meant by perform better was more than 0-100 times. It's primarily that the GTE is more fun to drive.

    GTE also has better weight distribution than the GTD.

    Leaving aside that I'd also question Volkswagens quoted figures... there seems to be a trend of manufacturers misquoting the 0-100 times from a lot of EVs and PHEVs. My i3 was quoted as 7.2 seconds by BMW, but Car & Driver, Auto Express and my own race timer put it at 6.5 seconds. The Leaf is quoted by Nissan to do 10.5 seconds, but timed runs show 9.5 seconds.
    It's not all about the 0-60 times, a lot of the reviews I saw preferred it to the GTD. I think the only thing it falls down on was it's price.

    Yup, and because of VRT differences the GTE is not £6,000 more expensive than the GTD like in the UK.... it's €500 cheaper than the GTD here. And it comes better equipped too. Plus if you use it for an average commute you will save €3-4k a year on tax, fuel and brake pads.... fuel and brake pads that can be put to better use... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,545 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    millington wrote: »
    It's quoted as being 0.1 seconds slower to 60 than a GTD so I don't see how that constitutes better performance? :confused: I know none of us would notice 0.1 seconds but it's hardly describable as better

    The weight of the batteries is a mark against it too from what I've read. Don't know why anyone would want a GTD either to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭millington


    cros13 wrote: »
    What I meant by perform better was more than 0-100 times. It's primarily that the GTE is more fun to drive.

    GTE also has better weight distribution than the GTD.

    Leaving aside that I'd also question Volkswagens quoted figures... there seems to be a trend of manufacturers misquoting the 0-100 times from a lot of EVs and PHEVs. My i3 was quoted as 7.2 seconds by BMW, but Car & Driver, Auto Express and my own race timer put it at 6.5 seconds. The Leaf is quoted by Nissan to do 10.5 seconds, but timed runs show 9.5 seconds.



    Yup, and because of VRT differences the GTE is not £6,000 more expensive than the GTD like in the UK.... it's €500 cheaper than the GTD here. And it comes better equipped too. Plus if you use it for an average commute you will save €3-4k a year on tax, fuel and brake pads.... fuel and brake pads that can be put to better use... :D
    I would like to drive a GTE out of interest but from general impressions, I'd rather the GTD (well, GTi but comparing like for like here)

    I doubt the GTE would hold value aswell as the GTD so savings might be a bit less come the end of the road. Interesting car all the same


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭vintagevrs


    I think the problem with the GTE is the fear of the unknown, especially when considering depreciation, and on a new car this is the biggest cost. Diesel Golfs are known to hold their value (diesel gate aside), but taking the plunge on a new tech is still a risk. Does look like an interesting car though. There is a demo in Derry currently:

    http://www.usedcarsni.com/2015-Volkswagen-Golf-Hatchback-GTE-152517424


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭cros13


    millington wrote: »
    I doubt the GTE would hold value aswell as the GTD
    vintagevrs wrote: »
    I think the problem with the GTE is the fear of the unknown, especially when considering depreciation

    Maybe I'm too far down the electric rabbit hole, but I'm kinda shocked by that. The addition of the electric powertrain means less wear and tear on the rest of the mechanicals.

    Motor regen means the friction brakes are used less. The engine gets revved less aggressively because torque fill from the electric motor allows the software to bring in the throttle of the petrol engine gradually. The modern automotive li-ion batteries usually take 15-20 years to drop to 70% capacity.

    And all that's before you look at in a PHEV rarely using the petrol engine for more than 10% of driving.So a GTE in 5 years with 100,000km on the clock will probably only have run the thermal engine for 10,000km or so, might still be on it's original brake pads and still has 85-90% of battery capacity at worst.

    From the EV driver perspective it's a bit slightly underpowered EV with 1.4L training wheels. But in the general scheme of things it's a well engineered powertrain, it's a fun car to drive, maybe not as much fun as a GTI... but it's cheaper and earns it's keep as a commuter car Mon-Fri that costs cents to run but is still good craic on weekends. In 5 years maybe you sell it on and buy a Tesla Model 3...
    https://youtu.be/9C4uTEEOJlM?t=40s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    Thinking of a GTD in the new year. Prob only afford the basic spec. Anything essential to add? The technology pack appears to be free at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,539 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    the turbo petrol engine. :pac: :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    I know, I have a MkV at the moment, but I will be doing a considerable extra amount of driving next year and this is how I'm justifying it to myself!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭vintagevrs


    Would you consider a GTE? If I was looking for a GTD I would look into one of these as well.

    As for spec, I think the Golf with the tech pack is pretty well equipped, so really up to you after that. Sunroof and leather are expensive options in my opinion. I can't comment on the Dynaudio system as I haven't heard it, but I find the base stereo perfectly fine, €750 is a fair whack more.

    If there is one option I would have it would be DSG, but again some people prefer the manual so it's all down to personal preference.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    I'll have a look at the GTE but don't have access to power overnight where I live.


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