Is Political Correctness gone over the top?

Hitchens · 07-10-2015 01:09PM #1

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/radio/rte-edits-out-offensive-comments-about-syrian-refugees-made-by-guinness-heir-on-ryan-tubridys-radio-show-31589812.html

An innocuous jokey remark, no malice intended, and they censor it .......c'mon ffs, how is this PC stuff making society better?

darkpagandeath · 07-10-2015 01:13PM

Sorry the comments did make me laugh.

SEPT 23 1989 · 07-10-2015 01:14PM

You can only wonder at the mentality of the arseh0les that complained

RayCon · 07-10-2015 01:21PM

Well I read the article and frankly I'm offended ...........

...... at people who are easily offended.

El_Duderino 09 · 07-10-2015 01:22PM

I work for an organisation which could be described as 'PC gone mad'. You can't swear, shout, make jokes which are racist, sexist, any of the 'ists' are out. The result is the most pleasant work environment I've ever had. Everyone is treated with respect and dignity at work.

You can say what you want in the pub after work. You just can't risk makeing people uncomfortable in work.

The Guinness guy was making a harmless joke but it has overtones of the sexual exploitation that goes on whenever there's a humanitarian crisis. It wasn't material to the discussion so you could make a strong argument for cutting it.

07-10-2015 01:24PM

Mr Guinness (58) was on the show to talk about the sale of his home Furness House as well as the auction of 700 items including furniture and art from the house on Tuesday.

Patrick is seventh generation in direct success to Arthur Guinness and he and his second wife Louise bought Furness, set on 34 acres near Naas, Co Kildare, in 1994.

Speaking about the fact that his four children had left the house, he told Tubridy it was "probably time for a change" and they would downsize as they had just "two of us in a 15 bedroom house and full of all things we had either inherited or bought".

Asked where he would live after the auction, he replied, "First of all, we have to sell the house. We may fill it full of Syrian refugees. You never know."

Tubridy replied, "That would be a very generous thing to do if it's for real," and Mr Guinness added, "Preferably female aged between 20 and 30."

Ryan Tubridy responded by saying, "Okay, well that's one of the more peculiar suggestions I've heard."

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Menas · 07-10-2015 01:25PM

Irrelevant old Toff makes stupid remark.

The only people they are protecting by censoring his remark is himself.

The Backwards Man · 07-10-2015 01:25PM

I don't think that's over the top, but this is;

Meet me halfway across the sky, out where the world belongs to only you and I.

darkpagandeath · 07-10-2015 01:26PM

Thank our lucky stars we don't have a person like Prince Philip.

DeadHand · 07-10-2015 01:28PM

Bad, mildly creepy joke.

It would have been better to edited it out on the basis of being a bad, mildly creepy joke than speaking loftily about it being "offensive" but, as it is, those utterances are no great loss to national discourse.

As a side note, exactly no-one in this country intends to actually take Syrian refugees into their homes. Of course, hundreds pledged to. On social media. Very loudly. Very publicly. This was virtue signalling at its most blatant; what could possibly be more wonderfully tolerant than taking brown strangers into your home? Never mind the fact none of these people had the slightest intention of doing so, it's the showing off that counts. If people really were so generous with their own homes we would not be experiencing an unprecedented homelessness crisis.

I'd venture that most of these keyboard saints who were so eager to let the world know all they would personally sacrifice for people born thousands of miles away would throw themselves under a truck before dealing with a homeless compatriot.

El Weirdo · 07-10-2015 01:32PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Sorry the comments did make me laugh.

"Brigade... "? Check.
"... the left control the media"? Check.
"... loony left"? Check.
"... nazi Germany"? Check.

somesoldiers · 07-10-2015 01:39PM

I was doing my review in work through some new US software nonsense, below are two of the warnings I received

I was trying to say I have worked on a broad range of projects
Word: Broad
Why it might offend: Gender Orientated
Replace with Suggestion: Woman

"Short term" was the phrase I used
Word: Short
Why it might offend: Negative Connotations
Replace with Suggestion: none

Am gonna have a play round with it now see what else it comes up with

Sam Kade · 07-10-2015 01:40PM

DeadHand wrote: »

Bad, mildly creepy joke.

It would have been better to edited it out on the basis of being a bad, mildly creepy joke than speaking loftily about it being "offensive" but, as it is, those utterances are no great loss to national discourse.

As a side note, exactly no-one in this country intends to actually take Syrian refugees into their homes. Of course, hundreds pledged to. On social media. Very loudly. Very publicly. This was virtue signalling at its most blatant; what could possibly be more wonderfully tolerant than taking brown strangers into your home? Never mind the fact none of these people had the slightest intention of doing so, it's the showing off that counts. If people really were so generous with their own homes we would not be experiencing an unprecedented homelessness crisis.

I'd venture that most of these keyboard saints who were so eager to let the world know all they would personally sacrifice for people born thousands of miles away would throw themselves under a truck before dealing with a homeless compatriot.

So tell us how many homeless people have you taken into your home?

Lux23 · 07-10-2015 01:44PM

I don't they should have censored the remark, Tubridy should have called him on it and we all could have enjoyed listening to the man trying to explain his silly remark.

DeadHand · 07-10-2015 01:45PM

Sam Kade wrote: »

So tell us how many homeless people have you taken into your home?

Was I talking about me?

Sam Kade · 07-10-2015 01:47PM

DeadHand wrote: »

Was I talking about me?

Practice what you preach and all that

El_Duderino 09 · 07-10-2015 01:53PM

Lux23 wrote:

I don't they should have censored the remark, Tubridy should have called him on it and we all could have enjoyed listening to the man trying to explain his silly remark.

Why? I thought the remark was probably harmless between 2 people but RTE have to think about the broader context.

T. What do you mean? Would you extort sex from them in exchange for shelter? Step 1 on Maslow's hierarchy of needs!

G. No. That's not what I meant.

T. Better not be. Sick puppy.

07-10-2015 01:54PM

There'll be someone in shortly to tell us PC doesn't exist. I anxiously await their arrival.

Footoo · 07-10-2015 02:00PM

Quick…someone post the Stewart Lee video…….

seamus · 07-10-2015 02:05PM

"Editorial decision" my hole.

I suspect that upon sober review, Mr. Guinness realised that clip could be used to embarrass him if played at a later date and so had his solcitor contact RTE to "request" that it be edited out of the published programme.

07-10-2015 02:21PM

Can you imagine if they reprimanded Prince Philip after each time he said something much worse and more offensive?

DeadHand · 07-10-2015 03:06PM

Sam Kade wrote: »

Practice what you preach and all that

What are you on about?

I didn't preach about what should be done about refugees or the homeless issue.

Winky faces do not excuse you talking through your hole.

Old Jakey · 07-10-2015 03:11PM

If the pc nuts got their way we'd live a joyless, boring society and where is regulated to the max to make sure some crybaby doesn't get his feelings hurt.

hatrickpatrick · 07-10-2015 03:12PM

Censorship is dangerous. And we're sleepwalking back into a censored society after a few decades of relative freedom, under the guise of protecting people.

darkpagandeath · 07-10-2015 03:36PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Censorship is dangerous. And we're sleepwalking back into a censored society after a few decades of relative freedom, under the guise of protecting people.

Aye swap the RCC for SJW and it's exactly the same.

HardenendMan · 07-10-2015 03:44PM

What if he wasn't joking? As in he would genuinely like to have 20-30 year old women living in the house?

Herb Powell · 07-10-2015 03:46PM

Can't say anything any more. Literally shot on site for causing offence.

jackofalltrades · 07-10-2015 03:51PM

His comments are a little bit creepy.
That said I don't think he meant anything malicious by it.
And I don't think there's overtones of sexual explotation.

Donkey Oaty · 07-10-2015 03:56PM

jackofalltrades wrote: »

His comments are a little bit creepy.
That said I don't think he meant anything malicious by it.
And I don't think there's overtones of sexual explotation.

He went on to say: "And Ryan, do you know what, I'd welcome her with a song. [sings] 'Lay lady, lay....lay across my big brass baaayud....'"

Donkey Oaty · 07-10-2015 03:56PM

jackofalltrades wrote: »

His comments are a little bit creepy.
That said I don't think he meant anything malicious by it.
And I don't think there's overtones of sexual explotation.

He went on to say: "And Ryan, do you know what, I'd welcome her with a song. [sings] 'Lay lady, lay....lay across my big brass baaayud....'"

Donkey Oaty · 07-10-2015 03:56PM

jackofalltrades wrote: »

His comments are a little bit creepy.
That said I don't think he meant anything malicious by it.
And I don't think there's overtones of sexual explotation.

He went on to say: "And Ryan, do you know what, I'd welcome her with a song. [sings] 'Lay lady, lay....lay across my big brass baaayud....'"

Is Political Correctness gone over the top?

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