Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

Knex* · 07-10-2015 11:12AM

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

you were talking about non-Dortmunders who thought they were cool when they got broadband and could list names of cool sounding players and say how good or bad they were because it was a foreign league.

Some of them even named their online personas after those players.

Still do in fact.

Assuming you're talking about Nuri/Ade, to be fair to him, he was quite evidently watching Dortmund, and extremely well informed with regards to them, prior to 2010.

A lot of people here hadn't even heard of Klopp at that stage.

I imagine there is a bunch of posts from the past that you could dig up of him referencing some of their players, their style, or Klopp himself, long before the mainstream media and so on jumped on the bandwagon over in these parts.

Also, a little much to be taking shots at "non-Dortmunders", when you consider you're posting in an Irish forum primarily set up to discuss English teams. Should our support of Liverpool, United, etc be diminished because we aren't Scousers of Mancs?

MD1990 · 07-10-2015 11:15AM

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

you were talking about non-Dortmunders who thought they were cool when they got broadband and could list names of cool sounding players and say how good or bad they were because it was a foreign league.

Some of them even named their online personas after those players.

Still do in fact.

cowardly & untrue post talking about a member who can't defend themselves.

K-9 · 07-10-2015 11:18AM

Irish fans who follow PL clubs looking down on Irish fans of other foreign leagues.

Football sure does bring it out in people.

Vicxas · 07-10-2015 11:18AM

Knex. wrote: »

Assuming you're talking about Nuri/Ade, to be fair to him, he was quite evidently watching Dortmund, and extremely well informed with regards to them, prior to 2010.

A lot of people here hadn't even heard of Klopp at that stage.

I imagine there is a bunch of posts from the past that you could dig up of him referencing some of their players, their style, or Klopp himself, long before the mainstream media and so on jumped on the bandwagon over in these parts.

Also, a little much to be taking shots at "non-Dortmunders", when you consider you're posting in an Irish forum primarily set up to discuss English teams. Should our support of Liverpool, United, etc be diminished because we aren't Scousers of Mancs?

I would be one of the people that only heard of Klopp circa 2010, I've always really liked his attitude and passion for the game.

Knex* · 07-10-2015 11:23AM

Vicxas wrote: »

I would be one of the people that only heard of Klopp circa 2010, I've always really liked his attitude and passion for the game.

Same, tbh.

I only watched the Bundesliga with any semblance or regularity between 2011 and 2013.

Haven't had the time since, didn't really have the interest or the means to watch it prior.

Francie Barrett · 07-10-2015 11:34AM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I liked Dortmund, I detested their hipster fair weather swell of support. Don't hear much about them since it started to go pear shaped early last season do ya?

The hipsters all moved onto Atletico Madrid.

gafferino · 07-10-2015 11:39AM

brevity wrote: »

https://twitter.com/AnfieldHQ/status/651514285072498688

Christian Benteke is a player whom Klopp considered signing for Borussia Dortmund in the summer of 2013, #lfc (Dom King)

I'd say he doesn't mind having Sahko and Firmino on the books either.

Jaysus he is an ITK in football as well as boxing?

Harry Palmr · 07-10-2015 11:40AM

Dom King writes for the Mail and is a Liverpool local.

not yet · 07-10-2015 11:44AM

Vicxas wrote: »

I would be one of the people that only heard of Klopp circa 2010, I've always really liked his attitude and passion for the game.

I'll put my ace of hearts on that..

I went to school with him:D

LuckyLloyd · 07-10-2015 12:00PM

MD1990 wrote: »

Ok fair enough. Not sure why u would detest there fairweather fans in particular though. It happens with teams who are underdogs though like Atletico in 2014. Do u dislike Ireland's fariweather support in Rugby or when we get to a major finals like Euro 2012?

I think the Irish example is different. Those people are latent fans of Ireland and will always be there anytime a team of Irishmen get on the big stage (or any Irish athlete really). I think bc nails what I was referencing below:

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

you were talking about non-Dortmunders who thought they were cool when they got broadband and could list names of cool sounding players and say how good or bad they were because it was a foreign league.

Some of them even named their online personas after those players.

Still do in fact.

That's what annoyed me, yes.

And I still take umbrage to the surprise people express when Athletico / Dortmund / Juventus rock up to a European Cup Final. These are huge clubs that are only ever the right manager and a clump of excellent signings in a condensed period away from scaling the mountain top. I consider us to be in the same bracket also by the way.

J Mysterio · 07-10-2015 12:01PM

Just listened to the Off The Ball podcast. They were discussing Gerrards autobiography and basically laughing at it and its contents

ricero · 07-10-2015 12:01PM

Does anyone think that the owners are looking to sell next summer so they got klopp in now as it be more attractive to the potential new owners ?

Knex* · 07-10-2015 12:02PM

Ah Lloyd, you're being daft. How is supporting Dortmund any different to supporting Liverpool?

LuckyLloyd · 07-10-2015 12:04PM

J Mysterio wrote: »

Just listened to the Off The Ball podcast. They were discussing Gerrards autobiography and basically laughing at it and its contents

Think that's been fairly obvious from the extracts released via the media thus far. I'm still on "why" tbh. Wait until you've finished playing (he could play three / four seasons in LA if he wanted to) and have established a bit of distance between the whole thing. Then sit down and take your time writing the story of your career when you've had the necessary space to reflect.

Just mad really.

5starpool · 07-10-2015 12:04PM

Tick Tock for Kop to Cop Klopp.

Hurry up Jurgen!

Harry Palmr · 07-10-2015 12:04PM

The sheer pomposity of this nonsense discussion is amusing me at least.

OwaynOTT · 07-10-2015 12:05PM

Knex. wrote: »

How's the hand anyway?

The painkillers are obviously good.

'Twas quite swollen for a bit there, coming down a good bit now. I'm made of adamantium so it's not broken I'd say, sure it turned out my foot wasn't broken that time. It was one of my toes that was broken a few weeks before my foot, when I stubbed it in the doorframe, which showed up on the scan.
Found out a while after that it was ligament damage.
Anyway that's a bit too social for here.

not yet wrote: »

I'll put my ace of hearts on that..

I went to school with him:D

I was one of the three wise men who brought him gifts.

Mr.H · 07-10-2015 12:05PM

ricero wrote: »

Does anyone think that the owners are looking to sell next summer so they got klopp in now as it be more attractive to the potential new owners ?

To be honest getting someone like Klopp shouts more of wanting to stay rather than preparing to leave

If they wanted to leave I would expect them to sign a seasoned veteran to try to get a top 4 spot and sell straight away. Even selling after "the great season" would have made sense if they wanted out at all

LuckyLloyd · 07-10-2015 12:06PM

Knex. wrote: »

Ah Lloyd, you're being daft. How is supporting Dortmund any different to supporting Liverpool?

I'm not being daft sir. The people I'm referencing weren't Dortmund supporters at all. They were 'football cool' supporters if they were anything. And I doubt they give Dortmund a passing thought on a weekly basis now.

LuckyLloyd · 07-10-2015 12:06PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The sheer pomposity of this nonsense discussion is amusing me at least.

I aim to please.

Knex* · 07-10-2015 12:09PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I'm not being daft sir. The people I'm referencing weren't Dortmund supporters at all. They were 'football cool' supporters if they were anything. And I doubt they give Dortmund a passing thought on a weekly basis now.

Perhaps, but the same thing happens with Real and Barca sure. People like entertaining football and will watch it when you see a team excelling in it. Dortmund's European prominence was at a time when a lot of people were absolutely fed up of Barca's tiki taka, and bored stiff of El Classicos.

Seeing the German teams blitzkrieg the Spanish Giants in those semi finals was absolutely glorious for those of us who love a more direct style, and for pretty much most neutrals too, I'd say. I recall you yourself loving it too, so I'm not really sure of your point.

I don't remember too many people wandering around with Dortmund jerseys or referring to them as "we", or anything, so I do think you're going overboard.

Regardless, I had thought you were following on from Baldy's point which was specifically aimed at Nuri, the poster from here, and that was patently wrong.

He was a fan prior to the mainstream hype and I'm fairly certain he remains one now and will continue to be one.

Dickerty · 07-10-2015 12:10PM

ricero wrote: »

Does anyone think that the owners are looking to sell next summer so they got klopp in now as it be more attractive to the potential new owners ?

Nope. Makes no sense TBH. They need the club to succeed and compete at the highest level if they are trying to coin in. That would still be some way off.

Grayditch · 07-10-2015 12:10PM

I still have my St. Pauli tattoo on my hand.

5starpool · 07-10-2015 12:11PM

I enjoyed this.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/picture/2015/oct/07/david-squires-on-liverpool-sacking-brendan-rodgers

MD1990 · 07-10-2015 12:14PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I think the Irish example is different. Those people are latent fans of Ireland and will always be there anytime a team of Irishmen get on the big stage (or any Irish athlete really). I think bc nails what I was referencing below:

That's what annoyed me, yes.

And I still take umbrage to the surprise people express when Athletico / Dortmund / Juventus rock up to a European Cup Final. These are huge clubs that are only ever the right manager and a clump of excellent signings in a condensed period away from scaling the mountain top. I consider us to be in the same bracket also by the way.

You think BC nailed even though what he said about a very good old poster Nuri Sahin was completley untrue. He was a fan of Dortmund years before Klopp was manager iirc. Its know diferent to how anyone starts supporting a team.

firemansam4 · 07-10-2015 12:17PM

Im really looking forward to the pending announcement on Friday, and hoping it all actually goes through.
But I see there is already players coming out saying he should wait for Bayern Munich, lets hope his head isn't turned at the last moment, FSG need to wrap this up ASAP.

From sky sports...

"Former Bayern Munich striker Giovane Elber has become the first person to break ranks and suggest a move to Liverpool might not be Jurgen Klopp's best option at the present time.

Elber, speaking to Goal.com, said he feels Klopp should wait for Pep Guardiola to vacate the manager's office at Bayern, something he is confident will happen when the Spaniard's contract expires in 2016. He said:

"Why would Klopp go to England? He belongs to Germany, the Bundesliga needs him. He should recover for a year now, at FC Bayern there is action all the time.

"He is a German manager, he knows the Bundesliga and was in the Champions League final with Dortmund. If he is available, Bayern have to react.""

LiamoSail · 07-10-2015 12:18PM

Grayditch wrote: »

I still have my St. Pauli tattoo on my hand.

I think people buy into the culture and politics of St Pauli, which is somewhat different to BVB, where the football is the attraction. Their new away top being an example of that culture

Hangballlouie · 07-10-2015 12:26PM

J Mysterio wrote: »

Just listened to the Off The Ball podcast. They were discussing Gerrards autobiography and basically laughing at it and its contents

It is a truly awful programme tbh. No matter what people think of Ken Earley, ever since him, Eoghan and the lads left it is poxy. Not one of them have a clue about football, actually embarrassing listening to them talk.

Dickerty · 07-10-2015 12:28PM

firemansam4 wrote: »

But I see there is already players coming out saying he should wait for Bayern Munich, lets hope his head isn't turned at the last moment, FSG need to wrap this up ASAP.

Hardly a shock that an ex-Bayern player wants him to wait in line...that only benefits Bayern.

Dickerty · 07-10-2015 12:29PM

Hangball Doughboy wrote: »

It is a truly awful programme tbh. No matter what people think of Ken Earley, ever since him, Eoghan and the lads left it is poxy. Not one of them have a clue about football, actually embarrassing listening to them talk.

Such a shame, it used to be an INCREDIBLE show, never missed the spot...

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