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DCM 2015: Mentored Novices Thread
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mirrormatrix wrote: »Also, on the day do people use pace bands around their wrists to check if they are on track? I only have a stopwatch on which to measure pace, so i'm wondering if I should now go out and buy an arm strap for my phone, or if a stop watch and pace band works for people?
Yep - best way to do it IMO because a garmin may not hold up anyway!
You can pick up time specific even paced pacing bands at the expo.
Someone at the lecture I was at last week mentioned you can get personalised ones made up and pick those up at the expo to (e.g. if you're doing negative splits) but that was said in passing and I've no further info on it.
Don't start trying to wear an phone strap at this point unless you've done a long run with it!0 -
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I don't know if I'll be able to run faster after 20 miles at a slower pace. I know for a fact that I can run slower after 20 miles at a faster pace.
Hi chrislad, there are easier ways to do this, believe me Your way will be a guaranteed painful one! Hold fire on committing yourself to that road. We can work out a happy medium with more even splits next week 0 -
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Hi mirrormatrix, if you can sit tight for a week, we'll be able to answer all your pacing questions. A stopwatch and pace band will work perfectly, even more accurate than a gps watchmirrormatrix wrote: »Visited the physio today and have the all clear to get back running in a couple of days - delighted! Fortunately was just a very minor strain on the hamstring.
This question may have been answered earlier in the thread, but I can't seem to find it. I've been running my LSR's slow, as suggested by this thread, but I don't really have an idea of what pace to go out at on the day. I have an aspirational time of 4:00, with a backup of 4:15 if things go a bit pear shaped. Currently, i've been running the LSR's at about 6:10 per km. I have to get that down to 5:41 per km to get under the 4 hour mark. Is it feasible to pick up the pace that much on the day, or am I likely to burn out later on?
Also, on the day do people use pace bands around their wrists to check if they are on track? I only have a stopwatch on which to measure pace, so i'm wondering if I should now go out and buy an arm strap for my phone, or if a stop watch and pace band works for people? 0 -
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Hi mirrormatrix, if you can sit tight for a week, we'll be able to answer all your pacing questions. A stopwatch and pace band will work perfectly, even more accurate than a gps watch
Thanks Dubgal! Sorry for jumping the gun, just stressing out about how everything will work on the day. I guess I need to take the advice on this page and just chill out for a few days, go to the cinema or something.0 -
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Hi chrislad, there are easier ways to do this, believe me Your way will be a guaranteed painful one! Hold fire on committing yourself to that road. We can work out a happy medium with more even splits next week
I must start using the :pac: smiley. Seems isn't tongue in cheek enough. 
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Running up hills at 7am on a Monday morning. What kind of fecking madness is this!!!
I think about that a lot during my runs, that this is just absolute bloody madness.
I was soaked to the bone this morning. I mean, the most soakiest I've ever been from running. I had a little rain jacket thingy on and it was beyond useless.
It was pitch black, howling wind, and rain rain rain. I love running in the rain, but I must admit that when the alarm went off at 6.15 and I heard it banging on the window, I was very tempted to get back into bed, and on a normal, non marathon training morning, I bloody well would have. I never passed another runner the entire time I was out which is unusual - except today, most marathon runners are tapering, and most non marathon runners know better!!!!
We are a mental mental bunch of people 0 -
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What is your athletics background? Have you run before?What other sports have you taken part in and at what level?
At the risk of giving away my age, a mid-life crisis found me joining a triathlon club about 3 years ago. So on average running (twice weekly) & swimming (once) with a little cycling on and off over this period. Did 3 sprint triathlons in 2014 and 1 sprint & 2 olympic triathlons in 2015.
Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
Dec 2014 Jingle Bells 5km 24:xx
Aug 2015 FD 10 mile 1:24:xx
Sept 2015 DHM 1:50:xx
Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training ? (No problem if you do)
No.
How much training do you currently do ? Distances, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
Since Dublin city triathlon in August have concentrated on running 4+ times per week.
How many days a week can you train?
Up to 5.
What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
Get to the start line uninjured.
Dream time 4hrs. Realistic 4:15. Finish it.
What marathon programme are you following/intending to use?
Haven't stuck hard and fast to any one plan. On a good week have been doing (solo) 1 x interval session, 1 x tempo, 1 steady & where poss 1 x rec, plus LSR. Getting advice from triathlon running coach also. Reached 30km/18m by start of Sept with 1 x 32km/20m before DHM. Then mini-taper around those weeks, then worked back up to 32kms and ran 34km last Sat avg pace 6:00/km. Each run has had it's ups and downs and I've tried to keep the emotions on an even keel and not get too depressed about the bad ones or too elated about the good ones. I'd be delighted if on the day my race experience falls somewhere in the middle of the crap to excellent running spectrum. With a proper knees up afterwards.
Have had a calf tightness and itb niggle on left leg but physio visit and stretching has it under control *touches wood*, though I'm not the most disciplined on following through on these.
The prep in the week leading up the the LSR, i.e., eating (I'm veggie) and hydrating well, with as much sleep and cat napping as is decent, and the post run recovery - re fuelling and stretching, has become more and more of a focus. And the reward of a glass of wine or beer or two that night! I've found doing 30' easy the day after the LSR has helped me recover quicker/get over the niggles. I think so anyway.
I've done most of my LSRs along the marathon route from the phoenix park to the finish so I might be able to contribute a little info on this when the time comes. I'm hoping that this will have a psychological pay-off with the first 6 miles taken as a warm up and then tricking myself into thinking that I'm running my 'normal' 20 miles. Wishful thinking probably and I'm sure there's little point in second guessing how the day itself will go.
And finally well done to everyone for getting this far. I think the ups and downs are all part of the journey and will hopefully help us better handle the good and bad situations as they arise on the day. I also know from my unsucessful attempt at DCM last year that getting to this point is a massive accomplishment and achievement in itself. Bring it on!!0 -
Just back from 5 miles. Maaaaannnnn were my legs heavy, much worse than yesterdays recovery run! I'm always sorer the second day, does the same theory run to muscle fatigue??
Anyway, loosened up for the last mile and it was almost enjoyable.
All sounds pretty normal after 2 weeks in a row with good solid +20 miles LSRs in the bag. Make sure you go back to plan this week and allow the legs to recovery properly 0 -
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Just back from sports massage ouch but a good ouch. Booked in for last massage for the big day the Monday before DCM can't believe how soon it is now. Is anyone else's boards acting up ??? Keeps duplicating everyone's posts ???
Hi,
I had that problem last year, my issue was that I was using a tablet for posts and it sometimes duplicates things.
Using a laptop now and the problem has gone away, using a laptop now and the problem has gone away :eek::D:D
Edit: BTW get a lend of your nephews water proof 'Transformers' watch as a back up to your Garmin in case it acts up on the day and press 'Start' when you go over the start line if you are worried about your Garmin battery packing up. Or buy a waterproof one in Argos for €10 and use it for Triathlons next year.....0 -
Hi,
I had that problem last year, my issue was that I was using a tablet for posts and it sometimes duplicates things.
Using a laptop now and the problem has gone away, using a laptop now and the problem has gone away :eek::D:D
Ha ha !!! Very funny see what you did there ! See what you did there 0 -
Compeled the Athlone 3/4 marathon yesterday. I have to say it was a very well organised race and very enjoyable. It was nice to do a long run with a change of scenery
Regarding my run, I was at the back of the group and because it was narrow at the beginning I was unable to catch up with the 3:30 pacers and I didn't want to unnecessarily use energy catching up with them.
I found it very hard to at times to pace myself slower than i did, I'm looking to run the marathon at 5:00/km for a 3:30 finish. I ended up running with a friend I bumped into at the hotel so we were both able to monitor our pace which I found very helpful.
The hills were long at times but I found them fine and I was able to finish the last 4km very strong which I was very happy about.
(Sorry its in kms)
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Bring on the tapering for the 3 weeks 0 -
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