Ian O'Doherty

BuilderPlumber · 03-10-2015 08:28PM #1

What makes this man tick (or is it thick?)? He seems to be one of these types who are controversial for the sake of being controversial. He has caused uproar with his comments about among others gays, drug users, Muslims, Steve Staunton and Barack Obama.

His latest article in the Indo about the latter shows us precisely his mixed up thinking. He first off recommends us to watch some British Mad Max ripoff from the 1980s and then somehow descends into a tirade about how 'bad' a president Obama is. He seems to have forgotten about GW Bush and the disaster that was the Iraq war. He is the typical rightwing, atheist, journo type who can see no wrong in the actions of rightwing US presidents, rightwing Israeli regimes and so on but is very quick to condemn anything other than these.

Very little of what he spouts makes sense and he only seems to make sense on minor issues like his opposition to the ban of alcohol sales on Good Friday. Most of his stuff on big issues seems to be the typical black and white 'I love the Tea Party and Israel, I hate Islam and Socialism' argument.

I would not like to see what kind of rightwing capitalist billionaire mad man Doherty would prefer as US president. Trump no doubt! Obama has left the US a better place than he found it. While not perfect, I think Obama was overall a decent president who was left a mess to clean up by his predecessor, who was THE worst president America ever had.

Doherty also takes swipes at Jimmy Carter. Carter was dealt a crisis engineered in part by his rivals in 1979. There are people in America and Iran who know the true story of why Carter was not re-elected and why Reagan was elected. Oliver North took the rap for those higher up in these devious deals. Carter was a decent president who did his best and has proven himself on the world stage ever since. Reagan developed into a good president too but his first term was shaky. He was a different and much more moderate man in his later years as president. Neither Carter, Reagan or Obama would make the mess that Bush Jr made that is certain: either would Bush's father for that matter. They all KNEW when to stop and how far to take things!

whiskeyman · 03-10-2015 08:30PM

He's causes no uproar with me as I don't buy or read the rag he writes for.
Problem solved

The Backwards Man · 03-10-2015 08:34PM

I remember when people used to watch telly on a Saturday night, nothing has emulated watching Dallas whilst doing the ironing for Mass.

kenmc · 03-10-2015 10:18PM

who?

Tommy Kay The DJ · 03-10-2015 10:21PM

kenmc wrote: »

who?

Some alco

dpofloinn · 03-10-2015 10:23PM

He's Ireland's very own Comic book guy worst journalist ever

Massimo Cassagrande · 03-10-2015 10:26PM

He struggles with his shoelaces. I believe velcro was a boon for him. Odious, springs to mind.

NachoBusiness · 03-10-2015 10:34PM

He always comes across to me like some coked off his tits southside spoon you'd meet in the kitchen of some party you have no idea how you wound up at.

Northsider infers southsiders are spoons!

I did no such thing.

Junkyard Tom · 03-10-2015 10:40PM

He's the type of guy you'd eventually tell to fuck off if he ended up joining your fireside camping session.

philstar · 03-10-2015 11:45PM

he's alright, he's opinionated which for some reason get up irish people's noses

ala eamon dunphy

Strazdas · 04-10-2015 01:47AM

He's a right wing contrarian or 'controversialist'. I remember him acting as a cheerleader for the invasion of Iraq in 2003.

I've no particular problem with his opinions (it's a free country after all) though he does seem rather cranky and short tempered in his views.

LETHAL LADY · 04-10-2015 01:50AM

I don't know the chap, but if I ever meet him down a darkened lane, well he better watch out like.

donegaLroad · 04-10-2015 01:51AM

never heard of him.

There is an O'Doherty guy who is a comedian who has written a song about sending a text to the wrong person.. any relation I wonder?

Filmer Paradise · 04-10-2015 01:51AM

Say what you like lads. I think he's spot on about a lot of things.

Haven't read much of his articles lately, but when I read them I found myself nodding in agreement most of the time..

Tarzana2 · 04-10-2015 05:14AM

Saw a documentary he did about the Muslim religion a few years back. 'Now It's Personal', I think it was called. A really odd, defensive, brittle guy. Also made a big deal about having to travel down the country, like he was being sent for torture or something.

Tarzana2 · 04-10-2015 05:15AM

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

I don't know the chap, but if I ever meet him down a darkened lane, well he better watch out like.

There's something very Begby about this. :pac::D

speedboatchase · 04-10-2015 07:31AM

I like him. His views are generally libertarian and since the majority of people in Ireland don't subscribe to his views, he's seen as a 'contrarian' or 'trying to be controversial' by some. He's not, he just sees things differently from the majority of Irish columnists who spout the same opinions as one another.

Ghost Buster · 04-10-2015 08:46AM

He can be a bollix bet he frequently hits the nail on the head. The only exampie I can think of at 8am on a Sunday is "Travellers have as much right to be considered as a separate ethnic identity as people from Achill".

Menas · 04-10-2015 08:49AM

There was an Iain O'Doherty in my class in school...he as all right like, but he left early to work in a pig factory and was illiterate. Dont think it is the same fella.

Nodin · 04-10-2015 08:55AM

Menas wrote: »

There was an Iain O'Doherty in my class in school...he as all right like, but he left early to work in a pig factory and was illiterate. Dont think it is the same fella.

No, must be a different guy.

osarusan · 04-10-2015 09:10AM

If you buy that newspaper, you get what you deserve.

mr_edge_to_you · 04-10-2015 09:22AM

I think he's dead right about most things. I admire people who speak their minds, regardless of how politically incorrect it may seem.

People are too sensitive these days.

Ignatius in bloom · 04-10-2015 10:08AM

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

What makes this man tick (or is it thick?)? He seems to be one of these types who are controversial for the sake of being controversial. He has caused uproar with his comments about among others gays, drug users, Muslims, Steve Staunton and Barack Obama.

His latest article in the Indo about the latter shows us precisely his mixed up thinking. He first off recommends us to watch some British Mad Max ripoff from the 1980s and then somehow descends into a tirade about how 'bad' a president Obama is. He seems to have forgotten about GW Bush and the disaster that was the Iraq war. He is the typical rightwing, atheist, journo type who can see no wrong in the actions of rightwing US presidents, rightwing Israeli regimes and so on but is very quick to condemn anything other than these.

Very little of what he spouts makes sense and he only seems to make sense on minor issues like his opposition to the ban of alcohol sales on Good Friday. Most of his stuff on big issues seems to be the typical black and white 'I love the Tea Party and Israel, I hate Islam and Socialism' argument.

I would not like to see what kind of rightwing capitalist billionaire mad man Doherty would prefer as US president. Trump no doubt! Obama has left the US a better place than he found it. While not perfect, I think Obama was overall a decent president who was left a mess to clean up by his predecessor, who was THE worst president America ever had.

Doherty also takes swipes at Jimmy Carter. Carter was dealt a crisis engineered in part by his rivals in 1979. There are people in America and Iran who know the true story of why Carter was not re-elected and why Reagan was elected. Oliver North took the rap for those higher up in these devious deals. Carter was a decent president who did his best and has proven himself on the world stage ever since. Reagan developed into a good president too but his first term was shaky. He was a different and much more moderate man in his later years as president. Neither Carter, Reagan or Obama would make the mess that Bush Jr made that is certain: either would Bush's father for that matter. They all KNEW when to stop and how far to take things!

He would probably argue the opposite to you.

Nodin · 04-10-2015 10:11AM

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

I think he's dead right about most things. I admire people who speak their minds, regardless of how politically incorrect it may seem.

People are too sensitive these days.

Odd, I've never seen you thank my posts.

suicide_circus · 04-10-2015 10:31AM

His Wikipedia article contains the following sentence;

"Ian O'Doherty has angrily denied that he has a drinking problem."

Nodin · 04-10-2015 10:36AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

His Wikipedia article contains the following sentence;

"Ian O'Doherty has angrily denied that he has a drinking problem."

I've heard him on radio panels. He actually is an ignorant over-aggressive sneering prick. I'd thought it part of the schtick of the articles beforehand.

speedboatchase · 04-10-2015 11:03AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

His Wikipedia article contains the following sentence;

"Ian O'Doherty has angrily denied that he has a drinking problem."

I realise that libel can be fun when posting under an alias in an internet forum, but how would him having a drinking problem be relevant to any discussions of his work?

Also, whether or not it's true, what kind of message are trying to send by bringing it up - that people with drinking problems are inferior and should be mocked?

suicide_circus · 04-10-2015 11:16AM

speedboatchase wrote: »

I realise that libel can be fun when posting under an alias in an internet forum, but how would him having a drinking problem be relevant to any discussions of his work?

Also, whether or not it's true, what kind of message are trying to send by bringing it up - that people with drinking problems are inferior and should be mocked?

Ummmmmmm....I just thought it was an odd sentence to have on your wiki page but your reaction makes it even funnier

Snake Plisken · 04-10-2015 11:26AM

Anyone can edit a wiki page, with untrue information.
For the record Ian is a breath of fresh air amongst the hand wringing, we can't insult anyone media that we have today. He is very much correct on what he publishes in his columns. And I love how he gets the usual posters on here upset!

Rabo Karabekian · 04-10-2015 11:30AM

O'Doherty writes like a man who has had waaay too much to drink, has found his laptop and written a long, rambling, incoherent rant and unfortunately decided to hit 'send'. What's even worse is that I imagine the above isn't true and he actually spends time on his articles and thinks that they are well-written and argued coherently.

RDM_83 again · 04-10-2015 11:41AM

He's a knob and not even that readable, you can hate on people like John Waters but he is intelligent* and can write.

*Intelligent doesn't mean they have to have the same views as you, some of the smartest people I have known have held rather out there opinions.

Ian O'Doherty

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