Mod warning #1: Seven Dublin men given prison terms ranging from 12-20 years for raid

Neyite · 01-10-2015 05:10PM

With the closure of rural Garda stations, sentences like these are sending the right message to other would-be hard men who think its ok to go into homes and terrorise and brutalise people, especially children or elderly people for the sake of a few quid.

I know people who were burgled and they never feel totally safe in their homes after the crime. I hope that any appeals get quashed and that they serve the full sentences.

bigroad · 01-10-2015 05:26PM

Its good to see these boyos getting a decent sentance.
but i jate to think that this is in the face of an up
coming election.

Skylinehead · 01-10-2015 05:33PM

bigroad wrote: »

Its good to see these boyos getting a decent sentance.
but i jate to think that this is in the face of an up
coming election.

Seriously?

tayto lover · 01-10-2015 05:40PM

CatFromHue wrote: »

That's not actually that bad tbh, I thought when you mentioned it first she was going to trying to say he was innocent or arguing the case.

She's just another victim in these scum bags lives.

I'm sure she benefited from his previous "work" and didn't ask where it came from either. Some of these lads living well above their means and the family know well where it's coming from.

TheLastMohican · 01-10-2015 05:40PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

It was a planned raid, they had information about a safe, but of course being feeble minded sewer rats they went to the wrong house.

I find your post very offensive to sewer rats. Please refer to MOD warning and sat 3 Hail Marys

emo72 · 01-10-2015 05:40PM

they didnt look very remorseful on the news. one "gentleman" throwing his head at the camera.

how come one of them was wearing headphones? are they allowed to listen to music?

My name is URL · 01-10-2015 05:46PM

listermint wrote: »

Unsure why the judge felt that this crime was not worthy of the maximum?

Probably because they pleaded guilty early on

Titzon Toast · 01-10-2015 05:52PM

So sick of the light sentences handed out in this country.

TheLastMohican · 01-10-2015 05:58PM

flanzer wrote: »

Saying her heart has been ripped to pieces. Others saying that she need not worry, he's a strong person. Others offering their condolences 'Thinking of you all'. You'd swear the little scrote had died

This is the misguided thinking imprinted in the minds of these untermenschen. A lot of it fortified by delusional liberal intellectuals who have a very blinkered view on street life.

Like sex offenders, these psychopaths should have the option of going through corrective therapy to kick in the "suspended" part. Why a part was suspended is beyond belief!

Having 315 previous between them, they (more than likely) will emerge from jail with a bit more cop and not get caught more often. After all, that's what jail does. I've yet to hear of recidivists turning their lives around.

Could they not be made to do some kind of work to symbolically pay back a little of what they have cost the Irish taxpayer?

uck51js9zml2yt · 01-10-2015 06:08PM

Just looking at them on the news.

Judge should have followed his initial inclination and given them life.

tayto lover · 01-10-2015 06:11PM

Deandre Quiet Filet wrote: »

Just looking at them on the news.

Judge should have followed his initial inclination and given them life.

We can only imagine the terror they put this innocent family through.
Utter low life vermin.

questionmark? · 01-10-2015 06:44PM

Anyone got the link to the Pavee Point statement? ðŸ˜„

Harry Palmr · 01-10-2015 06:44PM

There is something to be said for a "supermax" type jail - a place for those who wilfully use violence to terrorise and extort people in their homes. 23 hours a day in a cell on your own with no distractions. 1 hour for outdoor exercise in a small caged area, no fraternising.

Massimo Cassagrande · 01-10-2015 06:47PM

One had 120 previous convictions. 120. How do you amass 120 convictions and still be out and about robbing? What is it, 150 strikes and you're out? Is this gonna be the biggie? The life changer? Lol, unlike the previous 120..

emo72 · 01-10-2015 07:01PM

Massimo Cassagrande wrote: »

One had 120 previous convictions. 120. How do you amass 120 convictions and still be out and about robbing? What is it, 150 strikes and you're out? Is this gonna be the biggie? The life changer? Lol, unlike the previous 120..

And that's only counting the ones that went to trial and got a conviction. What about the ones when he got off? And ones that never went to trial? He must have started when he was in the pram.

uck51js9zml2yt · 01-10-2015 07:01PM

Massimo Cassagrande wrote: »

One had 120 previous convictions. 120. How do you amass 120 convictions and still be out and about robbing? What is it, 150 strikes and you're out? Is this gonna be the biggie? The life changer? Lol, unlike the previous 120..

He has 16 years ahead of him to a degree in becoming a super criminal and will be out at 38.

tayto lover · 01-10-2015 07:01PM

Massimo Cassagrande wrote: »

One had 120 previous convictions. 120. How do you amass 120 convictions and still be out and about robbing? What is it, 150 strikes and you're out? Is this gonna be the biggie? The life changer? Lol, unlike the previous 120..

Here's another lad who was out on bail and still committing crime.
Another who left a trail of destruction and shattered lives after him
Our courts and bail laws need to be looked at urgently.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/1001/731706-michael-sheahan-court/

tomwaterford · 01-10-2015 07:05PM

Massimo Cassagrande wrote: »

One had 120 previous convictions. 120. How do you amass 120 convictions and still be out and about robbing? What is it, 150 strikes and you're out? Is this gonna be the biggie? The life changer? Lol, unlike the previous 120..

Usually end up with multiple convictions for same insident??

Hopefully they'll not be out to attack people in their homes like that again...whatever about burguling them lads set out to attack that family and fully deserve the sentence...it's not like people walked in on them and situation got out of hand...wouldn't be the end of the world to see similar sentences for tiger kidnappings

01-10-2015 07:13PM

A good result for the Gardai, Courts and the victims. Well done to that brave mother who had the presence of mind to dial 999 and leave the phone hidden. I hope they can recover from this horrendous ordeal.

A Dub in Glasgo · 01-10-2015 07:14PM

Sentence details in tabular form

Smidge · 01-10-2015 07:25PM

The solicitor for the families report on RTE was tough to hear about the children.
4 surgeries the man had on his eye

On a side note, things like this are happening all over the country day in, day out.
I live very rurally and its frightening how much of this goes on.
And not nearly enough are caught.

CatFromHue · 01-10-2015 07:28PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I was with you up until this bit. If you choose to go out with a monster then IMO you deserve no sympathy when that monstrous nature is exposed. There's absolutely no way a scumbag like any of these guys could have convincingly acted like they weren't scumbags.

Yeah that's a fair point

BigBrownBear · 01-10-2015 07:28PM

What shocks me nearly as much as the details of the case is the amount of previous convictions involved
One of the ***** that got '20 years' has 120 previous convictions at age 22

Given the fact he was caught, charged and convicted to attain that figure, he must have committed thousands of crimes in his 'career'

How was he still on the streets!!

Vizzy · 01-10-2015 07:33PM

Absolute scum !!
Could you imagine facing the guy who went nuts for the cameras ?

I am amazed though that there are not more incidents where guys like this go in to the wrong house/yard some night and don't leave again(ever).

Amirani · 01-10-2015 07:45PM

I was happy when I heard these sentences today. 20 years for armed robbery and assault is a serious sentence, and rightly so. Arguably the best 20 years of your life gone right there from 25-45.

CatFromHue · 01-10-2015 07:46PM

BigBrownBear wrote: »

What shocks me nearly as much as the details of the case is the amount of previous convictions involved
One of the ***** that got '20 years' has 120 previous convictions at age 22

Given the fact he was caught, charged and convicted to attain that figure, he must have committed thousands of crimes in his 'career'

How was he still on the streets!!

The Times have listed their previous convictions

Dean Byrne (22) of Cabra Park, Dublin 17, was given a sentence of 20 years, with four suspended. He had 120 previous convictions.

Patrick Gately (28) of Primrose Grove, Darndale, Dublin 17, was also sentenced to 20 years, with four suspended for 10 years. He had 85 previous convictions.

John Joyce (21) of Lentisk Lawn, Donaghmede, Dublin, was sentenced to 15 years, with four suspended. He had 55 previous convictions.

Patrick Joyce (23) of Beaumont Hall, Beaumont Woods, Dublin 9, was given a sentence of 14 years, with four suspended. He had 16 previous convictions, none for violent offences.

Thomas Flynn (21) of Moatview Avenue, Coolock, Dublin 17, was sentenced to 12 years in prison, with three suspended. He is already serving a three-and-a-half year sentence for a separate offence and had 20 previous convictions.

Donal O’Hara (22) of Glin Park, Coolock, Dublin 17, was sentenced to 12 years, with seven suspended. He had 19 previous convictions.

Michael McDonagh (23) of Tara Lawns, Belcamp Lane, Coolock, Dublin 17, who was the only defendant with no previous convictions, was sentenced to 12 years, with seven suspended. He was “anxious to rehabilitate,” the judge said.

3 of them have 260 previous between them, another 3 have 55 between them.

Only 1 had no previous convictions.

One of the guys is current;y serving 3 and a half years for something and considering this happened less than 2 years ago it's not crazy to think he was out on bail when it happened.

Just makes you mad really:mad:

Kivaro · 01-10-2015 07:53PM

One had 120 previous convictions.
Another had 85 previous convictions.
And another had 55 previous convictions.

Meanwhile, my 87-year-old father who lives alone in the country is terrified after a group of travellers (yes, we have proof it was a gang of travellers) robbed his house earlier this year and caused major damage internally. His response, against our wishes, was to get bars installed to block access through the windows.

My father spent 45 years working and contributing to Irish society. He is now living in fear of a repeat occurrence; living in his own prison.

You have to wonder why this is allowed to continually happen, but I mostly wonder about the lack of action from those in authority. Criminality (laws/sentencing guidelines/recidivism etc.) should be on the top of the list for politicians, but apparently it does not affect them like it does their constituents.

captbarnacles · 01-10-2015 07:53PM

They'll be back out rehabilitated and reformed while they are still young men. Yep.

My blood ran cold the first time I read that story. That poor family and I could really relate to the fathers feeling of shame (not justified of course) at not being able to protect his family.

tayto lover · 01-10-2015 08:00PM

Vizzy wrote: »

Absolute scum !!
Could you imagine facing the guy who went nuts for the cameras ?

I am amazed though that there are not more incidents where guys like this go in to the wrong house/yard some night and don't leave again(ever).

I have a nice little surprise for anyone who might break into my home any night.
I just hope if it happens that I get the chance to use it and am not caught by surprise.
My little grandchildren sometimes stay with me and they are the same ages as that unfortunate family's children.

kupus · 01-10-2015 08:03PM

tayto lover wrote: »

I have a nice little surprise for anyone who might break into my home any night.
I just hope if it happens that I get the chance to use it and am not caught by surprise.
My little grandchildren sometimes stay with me and they are the same ages as that unfortunate family's children.

Just remember the second shot goes into the roof.....:pac:

Mod warning #1: Seven Dublin men given prison terms ranging from 12-20 years for raid

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