Makeup artists on my Facebook

Smidge · 29-09-2015 02:01AM

Sweet lanterin' jaysus.........
What the hell is the problem with women and make up lately?
They were it. Get over it OP.
If they want to pay someone to put it on for them, great. Good for the economy.
If they look like cr@p after, so what? Its not your mug.
Women and men have been wearing make up for time immemorial and at certain points in history, it was plastered on even more than it is now.

Christ, people really need to get over their own issues "she is a 2 without it, so is cheating a 2 rating man" type thing.

If you feel that crumby about yourself that make up on women is irritating you, you really need to rethink your own sh1t.

starling · 29-09-2015 07:41AM

Brian from Bray wrote: »

I wonder what they look like underneath all the makeup.

I knew it wouldn't take long before you showed up

Reiver wrote: »

I abhor it. Especially them going on about true beauty and then plastering it on. I've worn makeup, for the stage, so people wont just see a ghost. I thought as well in our modern world it's an unfair standard placed on people. FFS, why waste so much time on appearance? The usual people were banging on about KONY a few years back and then bringbackourgirls

So you can't enjoy makeup and simultaneously care about current events? That's just silly.

oxw wrote: »

Totally agree Anna, I think as we progress into the future girls will want to perfect themselves more and more and be like the girl they saw in a certain photo not truly knowing the mental state of the girl in that photo!

She might hate how she looks it's just an outsiders opinion that ends up setting a standard and them trying to achieve that standard!

There's so much wrong with society and so much people are oblivious to it, it's hard to witness! Girls think by achieving a certain standard in apply makeup that their problems/imperfections will just disappear but it doesn't work like that!

Society emphasises a woman's looks above all else. Of course they're going to be concerned about their appearance and do what they can to make the best of it because they're constantly being told that that is hugely important. It's ridiculous to be looking down your nose at them, they didn't make the rules.

oxw wrote: »

Because isn't their something else that girls may be doing instead of finding out how to contour and apply cheek bones where there isn't any in the first place??

Why would girls want to sculpt themselves and others to appear different for a few hours till they have to remove it and start from scratch the next day?

Fine, some may feel insecure or ugly without it but Jesus enough is enough like! It's daft!

Isn't there something else you could be doing than messing around on Boards? Have you ever played a video game or watched television? There's always something else you could be doing. It's not your business how anyone else spends their time. How old are you?

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

There is, but clearly these ones aren't.

Why would I want to spend hours pumping iron in the gym when I'll lose it and have to start from scratch the next time the Christmas Party season rolls around? Same question

See above

People enjoy doing these things, that's all that matters. Personally what I find irritating is this proto-nanny psychoanalysing of every common human behaviour and trying to find a reason to deem it "harmful". It's analogous and every bit as irritating as the online trend of cultural authoritarians analysing common media and labelling various aspects of it "problematic". Can't we just leave people alone and let them be happy? Naturally if I didn't do anything I'd have a gigantic Moses beard and a labyrinth of curls in and around my bollocks. How is artificially interfering with those things any different to artificially colouring one's skin or eyelids? Serious question, I'm honestly not getting it - either artificially changing your appearance is annoying or it isn't. If people are taking issue with makeup but not with lads shaving their faces every morning, I genuinely don't understand what distinguishes one from the other - apart from the fact that shaving probably requires less effort.

Yes this. All of the thanks for you.

Reiver wrote: »

Well lets not generalise now. I doubt its done in the Middle East too much. Didn't see it in Tanzania either. China yes.

Many women in the Muslim community, whether they're in Ireland or the Middle East, wear makeup and dress well. It's only when they're in public or in the presence of men outside of family that they cover up their hair. They often have a scarf or hijab near the door of their home so that they can quickly cover their hair to answer the door. Not all Muslim women wear the full gear and even when they do, they don't all spend every waking moment completely engulfed in it. There are halal cosmetics too.

jamesbere wrote: »

The problem is young women don't realise that plastering their faces in makeup is destroying their skin. They get bad acne and don't realise it's the makeup that is causing it.

Ah böllocks. Makeup doesn't automatically give you skin problems. That's just as patronising as saying they should be doing something better with their time. And when I was a chungwan before the inter webs it was magazines, and they were always full of skincare stuff. So your average young woman usually knows a lot about skin care than you might realise.

oxw wrote: »

I don't think I'm part of the problem to be quite honest, I would only wish to wake up one day and see every girls skin bare and them being happy, to be finally be free of the burden of looking like someone else they would all finally be on one level!

WTF

is it bothering you that people have different levels of physical attractiveness or something?

starling · 29-09-2015 07:52AM

“Allah provides 2 distinct types of guidance to women on dress. The first relates to modesty which is actually similar to modern dress standards. The second relates to easily identifying Muslim women, which is where the hijab/burqa requirements come from. In either case, modern make-up neither violates the letter or the intent of Allah's commands which were never designed to make women unattractive.”

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-some-Muslim-women-who-wear-a-hijab-also-wear-makeup

bigpink · 29-09-2015 07:54AM

Noticed this too must be a good money spinner

Annasopra · 29-09-2015 08:15AM

starling wrote: »

Isn't there something else you could be doing than messing around on Boards? Have you ever played a video game or watched television? There's always something else you could be doing. It's not your business how anyone else spends their time. How old are you?

My guess is 14. I mean with Sisters banging his bedroom door down I assume he's a teenager.

Whitewinged · 29-09-2015 08:16AM

Theres a whole "thing" of it on youtube. They make videos showing the whole process and non professionals who just enjoy applying makeup giving tips or showing the application process and i also think these videos overlap with the whole asmr thing.

Theres a few who have done really well from it. Michelle phan has got her own make up range because of it.

i suppose the facebook thing probably comes from that.

I do think its funny when someone says "heres a picture of my make up". Like the person isnt there at all and the make up has a life of its own.

Dial Hard · 29-09-2015 08:46AM

KungPao wrote:

Back in my day these people would be working in Dunnes or whatever, but even that is a hard target these days with the way things are. If they can make a few bob by plastering women with makeup, then fair balls.

This. It's the female equivalent of every second young lad becoming a personal trainer these days.

Quite surprised at the level of vitriol coming from the OP. It's pretty bad, even for AH.

It's just make-up lads. Stop worrying about it and return to whatever world-changing activities I'm sure you were engaging in before you dropped by to educate us all on the evils of cosmetics and those tricksy bitches who use them.

starling · 29-09-2015 09:13AM

Whitewinged wrote: »

Theres a whole "thing" of it on youtube. They make videos showing the whole process and non professionals who just enjoy applying makeup giving tips or showing the application process and i also think these videos overlap with the whole asmr thing.

Theres a few who have done really well from it. Michelle phan has got her own make up range because of it.

Exactly and it's the same for EVERY HOBBY EVER, whether you're into carpentry or motorbikes or knitting or playing a musical instrument people enjoy swapping tips and discussing their hobby. I don't see why makeup enthusiasts get the OP's goat so much...I mean I could speculate but I won't

Whitewinged wrote: »

I do think its funny when someone says "heres a picture of my make up". Like the person isnt there at all and the make up has a life of its own.

Hahha! I think it's just they want to show off whatever makeup look they've created, so they are clarifying "Look at what I've done" as opposed to just "here's a picture of me, look how pretty I am!"

retro:electro · 29-09-2015 10:41AM

To be honest even more annoying that is the proliferation of girls taking selfies in front of the mirror and providing every minute outfit detail as if they are some style icon or something. I do not care about your €14.99 New Look skirt please spare me

yourdeadwright · 29-09-2015 10:49AM

Not as bad as every man women and child on facebook now being a personal trainer ,and putting pictures up of the breakfast ,lunch and dinner and other such nonsense

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 29-09-2015 10:55AM

You know what's the absolute worst? People posting photos of their children.

Kev W · 29-09-2015 10:57AM

People are disgusting and shouldn't exist.

keano_afc · 29-09-2015 01:07PM

As the husband of a fully qualified MUA, a lot of these girls seem to think a 3 hour Saturday afternoon course they got on Groupon for a tenner somehow makes them qualified to advertise themselves as some sort of genius.

fleet_admiral · 29-09-2015 01:36PM

Makes a change from every single mother doing fit for life

29-09-2015 01:48PM

keano_afc wrote: »

As the husband of a fully qualified MUA, a lot of these girls seem to think a 3 hour Saturday afternoon course they got on Groupon for a tenner somehow makes them qualified to advertise themselves as some sort of genius.

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12003278_10153703111565984_9184141403736760520_n.jpg?oh=ab6b732054c96f4b16907a0e6b144ed4&oe=56A224E2

NachoBusiness · 29-09-2015 02:18PM

jamesbere wrote: »

The problem is young women don't realise that plastering their faces in makeup is destroying their skin. They get bad acne and don't realise it's the makeup that is causing it.

jamesbere wrote: »

Exactly it's nuts, to make it worse they put makeup over the acne which is the worst thing you can do.

Males get just as much severe acne though. If make up was the prime cause, that wouldn't be the case.

Even if it does make it worse, you can hardly expect young girls to go out at the weekend with severe acne on show when they could easily cover it and pretty much guarantee little or no negative comments, compared to had they not. I was put on meds for acne when I was 16 (the anti-biotic is now banned). I certainly would have used make-up if I was a girl. It's a no-brainer really.

Girl on YouTube (Em Ford) does it quite well without it being too heavy but after she recently posted this video she received lots of abuse and was so made the following video in response..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWTRwj9t-vU

Dolbert · 29-09-2015 04:20PM

Funny how the most vocal critics of makeup are usually the first to call women mingers without it

DEFTLEFTHAND · 29-09-2015 04:31PM

Do you have to be 'qualified' are can anybody market themselves as a freelance makeup artist?

redbel05 · 29-09-2015 04:56PM

You know, this is something that's been on my mind for a while. About 5 years ago my sister was doing her leaving cert. Just before doing out her cao, her career guidance teacher had them all fill out aptitude tests. When the results came back her small class had about 6-7 girls "guided" to careers in hair/ beauty. Its like we as a country don't know what guidance to give young people who are not good test-takers.

Our small village might only have 2 grocers, a butchers and two pubs but it has FIVE hairdressing salons, and two beauticians...

Whitewinged · 29-09-2015 06:11PM

redbel05 wrote: »

You know, this is something that's been on my mind for a while. About 5 years ago my sister was doing her leaving cert. Just before doing out her cao, her career guidance teacher had them all fill out aptitude tests. When the results came back her small class had about 6-7 girls "guided" to careers in hair/ beauty. Its like we as a country don't know what guidance to give young people who are not good test-takers.

Our small village might only have 2 grocers, a butchers and two pubs but it has FIVE hairdressing salons, and two beauticians...

Yea exactly they have 5 hairdressers - its a trade and a good trade to have. You will always have a job. You can work for yourself even or if ambitious, run your own salon. Same as beautician, lots of freelance wedding beauticians. So its not a bad suggestion from a guidance councellor.

I often wish id have gone down that route rather than go to college because i think i genuinely would have enjoyed it. Little to no paperwork, you get to chat to people and make them happy

Mesrine65 · 29-09-2015 06:14PM

My OH was a beautician who went on to become a post-mortem make-up artist :eek:

She loves it, no back chat from the clients but no tips either

:pac:

Whitewinged · 29-09-2015 06:17PM

Mesrine65 wrote: »

My OH was a beautician who went on to become a post-mortem make-up artist :eek:

She loves it, no back chat from the clients but no tips either :pac:

Oh i couldnt do that now. Personally i just couldnt......i mean no tips?

Robsweezie · 29-09-2015 06:28PM

I dont support the view that hair and make up beauty careers are for vacuous, brain dead academic failures with no talent elsewhere. its a trade and an honest days work like any other.

ive seen a lot of sarcastic posts and memes in relation to girls doing beauty courses.

Kev W · 29-09-2015 06:30PM

Robsweezie wrote: »

I dont support the view that hair and make up beauty careers are for vacuous, brain dead academic failures with no talent elsewhere. its a trade and an honest days work like any other.

ive seen a lot of sarcastic posts and memes in relation to girls doing beauty courses.

I'd like to see some of the people who do support that view take a crack at it. Then we'd see some clown faces.

Menas · 29-09-2015 06:50PM

Kev W wrote: »

I'd like to see some of the people who do support that view take a crack at it. Then we'd see some clown faces.

It's one of those jobs where there are many who can do it badly but few who do it very well. Definitely a skill.

starling · 29-09-2015 07:10PM

Robsweezie wrote: »

I dont support the view that hair and make up beauty careers are for vacuous, brain dead academic failures with no talent elsewhere. its a trade and an honest days work like any other.

ive seen a lot of sarcastic posts and memes in relation to girls doing beauty courses.

It's a very lazy, inaccurate stereotype IMO. I used sometimes go to MAC and get my slap done for me. I would have great chats with the MUAs and it was clear that they were in no way stupid, they were bright young women who were creative and passionate about their chosen career.

I always used to feel that Ireland was different from places like the US in that, because of our shïtty economic situation, you could find very intelligent people doing very ordinary jobs, and you didn't really judge people by what they did for a living the way the Americans tend to do. Massive generalisation, I know

Now I have this feeling that it's different and that we're getting a bit more like the Americans when it comes to other people's jobs. I don't know whether it's because of the ubiquity of yanks on the inter webs, or the Celtic tiger shïte, or both. But it used to be considered pretty rude to ask someone you just met "what do you do?" and I don't think that's still a widely held belief.

Sorry, I just went a bit rambly there......I'll shut up now

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 29-09-2015 07:28PM

Well, I have a "proper" degree so I don't think I'm thick but I'm a beauty therapist and that course was one of the hardest things I've ever done. I was assessed by 3 different examining bodies. 2 required a pass rate no lower than 60 % in both theory and practical and the 3rd was 70% to pass (theory practical and dissertation), there was no carrying percentages (so say 80 in theory and 68 in practical - you'd fail the exam). Some of the things we covered were anatomy and physiology, we had to know all the systems of the body inside out, we covered cosmetics chemistry, epilation, electrical equipment for the face and the body, we had to know position action insertion and origin of each muscle in the body - I won't bore you anymore but it wasn't a case of going in to learn how to give someone a back rub or slap a bit of lotion on them.

At the minute I do all sorts of treatments. I do skin rejuvenation with lasers, I do chemical peels, i use machines to freeze fat cells and to break down cellulite. I thread. I wax. I do facials. I do deep tissue/sports massage. I apply semi permanent eyelashes. I can do a range of different treatments and I can make very decent money, both in the salon and doing nixers. Coming closer to Christmas, and in the summer in one day doing nixers at home it would be quite possible to pull in between 500-700 euro.

With that trade, when you build a clientele, they're very loyal and word of mouth means that one person could potentially bring you three more people.
I did a separate makeup artistry course, and that alone could earn me decent money without everything else that I do.

I enjoy my job, I love what I do, I'm constantly upskilling and training and learning new things. It's fantastic. And I'm making a lot more with this course than I ever would with my "real" degree.

bigpink · 29-09-2015 07:37PM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Well, I have a "proper" degree so I don't think I'm thick but I'm a beauty therapist and that course was one of the hardest things I've ever done. I was assessed by 3 different examining bodies. 2 required a pass rate no lower than 60 % in both theory and practical and the 3rd was 70% to pass (theory practical and dissertation), there was no carrying percentages (so say 80 in theory and 68 in practical - you'd fail the exam). Some of the things we covered were anatomy and physiology, we had to know all the systems of the body inside out, we covered cosmetics chemistry, epilation, electrical equipment for the face and the body, we had to know position action insertion and origin of each muscle in the body - I won't bore you anymore but it wasn't a case of going in to learn how to give someone a back rub or slap a bit of lotion on them.

At the minute I do all sorts of treatments. I do skin rejuvenation with lasers, I do chemical peels, i use machines to freeze fat cells and to break down cellulite. I thread. I wax. I do facials. I do deep tissue/sports massage. I apply semi permanent eyebrows. I can do a range of different treatments and I can make very decent money, both in the salon and doing nixers. Coming closer to Christmas, and in the summer in one day doing nixers at home it would be quite possible to pull in between 500-700 euro.

With that trade, when you build a clientele, they're very loyal and word of mouth means that one person could potentially bring you three more people.
I did a separate makeup artistry course, and that alone could earn me decent money without everything else that I do.

I enjoy my job, I love what I do, I'm constantly upskilling and training and learning new things. It's fantastic. And I'm making a lot more with this course than I ever would with my "real" degree.

Serious money in the nixer trade so?id say the majority is this way?

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 29-09-2015 07:42PM

It's like anything, if you put the hours in. I have a beauty room at home and the past year I've really got into doing it. And it's mostly word of mouth. Like a lot of the time I have no interest in doing it on my days off so won't book myself out, but it's absolutely there for the taking.

29-09-2015 07:42PM

I don't know why anyone would sneer at people making an honest living by providing an in-demand service. Smacks of snobbery imo.

I like makeup but I'm not that into it, it's more of a 3 minute thing to me than something I take artistic pride in (though I do think that the striped 'contoured' cheeks and Groucho Marx eyebrows that are fashionable today will be the thing of epic cringes in the future when people look back at the photos) but it makes people happy and it's a hobby to many and it's just lazy to stereotype all beauty industry people as fluffy airheads with nothing better to think about.

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