Anti-gentrification protest - Cereal Killer Cafe

Nodin · 27-09-2015 10:04PM

Ellie2008 wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3250896/Cereal-offender-Hipster-hating-mob-attacks-novelty-cafe-anti-gentrification-protests-turn-violent.html

What do people make of this - on the one hand I'm like angry mob = bad, on the other I'm like they have a point. All of my friends who live in London work in the City & always speak about gentrification as a great thing, talking about places that are now "really cool" where they d like to live but I have never, & I doubt they have ever given much thought to the previous residents.

Until this event I was completely unaware of the link between breakfast cereal and gentrification. I am now shorn of my ignorance and see the world with new eyes. Tomorrow morning I will burn the box containing the Weetabix and strike a blow for freedom.

RDM_83 again · 27-09-2015 10:19PM

Bunch of idiots, doubt any of them have lived in the area for more than the last 15 years.
The anti-gentrification thing is a bit stupid in London, its not like the inhabitants of most of the places actually have long roots in the areas people will complain about somewhere like Brixton becoming gentrified and the character changing but its just another change, if the area had its original type of inhabitants it would be white working class but nobody mourns the loss of those communities.

Here's a choice quote from the Guardian that neatly illustrates this bullsh-t, with added unintentional racism.

At like 8pm, I looked to the side and I saw 60 white people, all who looked between the ages of 24 and 32, all smiling. Half of them were wearing matching red T-shirts with a slogan on it. There were two leaders at the front … and it was the scariest thing I’d ever seen in my entire life.

http://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/aug/19/young-londoners-inequality-utopia-roundhouse-penny-woolcock

That said Shoreditch is full of Ridiculous w@nk like cat cafe's and 8 pound smoothies.

Paramite Pie · 27-09-2015 10:21PM

pmasterson95 wrote: »

The Daily Mail. It must be accurate and true

C'mon, that nonsense is getting old. They reported a factual story with photo and video proof. I wouldn't read it myself but I'll read the article before I actually write it off as bull.

Attacking a small business is absolutely shocking!! They've nothing to do with bankers and condos.

rubadub · 27-09-2015 10:36PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

a café run by beards selling overpriced children's cereal,

Would make more sense to be attacking pubs if pricing was their problem. Or many regular cafes.

J. Marston wrote: »

If they can get idiots to pay £4.50 for a bowl of Coco Pops, they deserve a pat on the back.

Here is the menu, a large coco pops is £3.50, small 2.50

the US cereals are £4.50 for a large one £3 for small us ones.
http://cerealkillercafe.co.uk/menus

It's similar to shops selling US sweets at what appear to be high prices.

Tesco here sell smallish boxes of lucky charms for 8 euro.

Tesco uk have single serve lucky charms for £1.50 http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=273824074

so £3 is relatively good value, as I guess it includes milk. While pubs here can buy heineken in supermarkets for 75cent and sell for 5.50. I wonder what cafe these people do approve of, and what the markups are.

c_man · 27-09-2015 11:14PM

I have a camán handy by the bed for the inevitable street battles of the looming class war. And a bottle of whiskey.

27-09-2015 11:20PM

What exactly is the problem they have with gentrification?

Ellie2008 · 27-09-2015 11:26PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What exactly is the problem they have with gentrification?

It drives property prices & rents up so they can no longer afford to live there.

RDM_83 again · 27-09-2015 11:30PM

Deleted User wrote: »

What exactly is the problem they have with gentrification?

Well the rental market is insane over there and they are building an awful lot of "investment" apartments that are not affordable to the non-City workers and will be bought by overseas people who are looking for a safe place to hold their assets.
But targeting a small business is just stupid, they provide a bit of employment and are ironically are at risk of the current markets as the site is likely worth more money to the owner turned into apartments or office space than rented out to these types of business.

If the place was a more traditional non gentrified cafe half the people would be holding up meat is murder signs.

Think I actually tried to go to one of this groups protests twas called "reclaim the beats" arrived a bit late and found out it was about 50 people so we went to the pub and ended up spending the night chatting to someone who had been at that had just taken a gram of useless ketamine (she was still conscious) so I'm not sure the crowd it attracts are the most "together" bunch of people.

ps3man · 27-09-2015 11:37PM

£4.50 for a cereal seems a lot but these lads need to pay wages, taxes, electricity, rent, advertising, stock, insurance, make a little profit and all the other costs it takes to run a business.

I doubt the lads are driving around in Ferraris and waking up in multimillion pound apartments in Chelsea. The left has really taken on a nasty edge lately.

However when all is said and done, not much damage is done and these guys have gotten absolute an priceless amount of publicity out of this.

ColeTrain · 27-09-2015 11:47PM

Tony The Tiger and The Honey Monster must have had the night off.

Greentopia · 28-09-2015 12:10AM

Futile and unfair to attack a small business (even if the place is taking the piss selling overpriced imported cereal to gullible hipster eejits).

Seems like too easy a target. The ones they should be protesting are the big developers, overseas buyers and banks responsible for the gentrification process that sees working class people no longer able to afford to live in areas they've grown up in.

kowloon · 28-09-2015 12:54AM

Enough rioting and they'll succeed in lowering the price of living there.

Tarzana2 · 28-09-2015 01:59AM

RDM_83 again wrote: »

That said Shoreditch is full of Ridiculous w@nk like cat cafe's and 8 pound smoothies.

Cat cafés aren't ridiculous, so long as the critters are well cared for.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 28-09-2015 02:47AM

I feel sorry for the two beard brothers, their property front had some truly vile graffiti sprayed on it. Hopefully they are not targeted by these brutes again.

Billy86 · 28-09-2015 03:09AM

Ellie2008 wrote: »

It drives property prices & rents up so they can no longer afford to live there.

And yet I would put a heavy wager on the majority of that same group getting up in arms about migrants moving in because "it lowers the value" of the area for if they want to sell and move into a fancier place. If neither happened, they would be complaining about the area not having attention paid to it by local government and becoming stagnant as a result.

Basically, they're looking for any excuse.

28-09-2015 03:22AM

I don't know where the term gentrification came from nor when it become the cause de celebre for do-nothing protesters but I'd love to hear a coherent justification for taking a snapshot of an area's economic development at a random moment and stating, on pain of violence, "this far and no further".

can't afford to live somewhere anymore? then fkoff. welcome to the world.

it's the greatest non-issue of the past few years.

DivingDuck · 28-09-2015 03:50AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd love to hear a coherent justification for taking a snapshot of an area's economic development at a random moment and stating, on pain of violence, "this far and no further".

can't afford to live somewhere anymore? then fkoff. welcome to the world.

But that's the level that suits me, so that's the level it should stay at...!

Unprovoked physical violence against persons or property is never okay. (Even when those persons are hipsters, and their property is a mad venture like this.)

That's not a protest; it's just criminal vandalism.

inforfun · 28-09-2015 08:08AM

I am always curious about the amount of these anti-capitalists that have no problem picking up their social welfare check.

Samaris · 28-09-2015 09:21AM

inforfun wrote: »

I am always curious about the amount of these anti-capitalists that have no problem picking up their social welfare check.

>.> didn't take long to get the first jab in at unemployed.

You have absolutely no idea if they're employed or not. And in the context of this specific discussion, it's not really relevant.

The extremes of any political movement are much alike - and this lot were being a shower of thugs.

Tarzana2 · 28-09-2015 09:26AM

inforfun wrote: »

I am always curious about the amount of these anti-capitalists that have no problem picking up their social welfare check.

Well surely even if they were welfare recipients, that would tie in with anti-capitalism?

inforfun · 28-09-2015 09:59AM

Samaris wrote: »

>.> didn't take long to get the first jab in at unemployed.

You have absolutely no idea if they're employed or not. And in the context of this specific discussion, it's not really relevant.

The extremes of any political movement are much alike - and this lot were being a shower of thugs.

It is a jab at these anti-capitalists, not the unemployed in general.

osarusan · 28-09-2015 10:08AM

inforfun wrote: »

It is a jab at these anti-capitalists, not the unemployed in general.

I think the point is how you can know that these anti-capitalists are also on welfare?

inforfun · 28-09-2015 10:25AM

osarusan wrote: »

I think the point is how you can know that these anti-capitalists are also on welfare?

I can't.
That is why i wrote "i am curious....."

FTA69 · 28-09-2015 10:29AM

This was a pointless act of posturing as opposed to any meaningful challenge to the social cleansing currently going on in London. The problem lies with government housing policy, the disgraceful Right to Buy scheme surrounding council housing and also the use of empty and idle housing developments by ge world's rich to launder their money. It isn't the fault of two fellas opening up a small shop; Shoreditch has been gentrified to the hilt for well over a decade - theres a much bigger problem afoot than two lads selling Coco Pops. Literally a minute's walk from that cafe, local shops are being shut down due to rent hikes and are being replaced by towers of apartments that nobody will ever live in. Why not target the people behind that?

Likewise, those lauding this process that's at work in London as "natural change" or "fup off to the suburbs if it's too expensive" are talking through their hoops. Cities are functional places where people live and work, they are where communities exist and deep relationships between people and their area have developed. That is something to be supported and maintained, it's what made London a great city for so long. Now we see it is being turned into a playground and money laundering machine for the world's rich and f*ck those that actually live and work here. Recently near me, most of an estate was flattened and replaced with new build apartments. The "social housing" allocation was tiny and the ones that were allocated cost around £300,000 for a one bed flat. Meanwhile the people who lived there for decades get turfed out and a select few make millions in the process.

It's wrong. And the city is a worse place for it.

28-09-2015 10:41AM

inforfun wrote: »

I am always curious about the amount of these anti-capitalists that have no problem picking up their social welfare check.

Or how many of them had an iPhone.

"We're against capitalism, but only sometimes"

melissak · 28-09-2015 03:23PM

c_man wrote: »

I have a camán handy by the bed for the inevitable street battles of the looming class war. And a bottle of whiskey.

Always good to be prepared

discus · 28-09-2015 03:34PM

Family members of mine living in the UK were chased out of their houses during the troubles.

This is no different. People using political problems to take out their grievances on their fellow man. Dispicable.

Nodin · 28-09-2015 03:38PM

discus wrote: »

Family members of mine living in the UK were chased out of their houses during the troubles.

This is no different. People using political problems to take out their grievances on their fellow man. Dispicable.

What I can't figure out is why they come out with a list of things they blame for the problem, then attack a shop that isn't on the list.....

acb121 · 28-09-2015 04:55PM

Possibly the most ridiculous, disgusting entitled criminality since the London riots of 2011.

The locals have indeed been " forced " out ... or " encoraged " or " inspired " to move by a feeling they " no longer belong ".

But in era of politcal correctness, nobody would dare tell the truth.

Not by hipsters.

By Bangladeshi colonisation, corruption within the Bangladeshi's in positions of influence, where certain folk seem to be more " favoured " by the largesse of the British Taxpayer than others.

But most importantly, agressive, confrontational, menacing Islamification.

Over 20 years ago, nobody had heard of a " hijab " in Britain, let alone women dressing in a bin bag with an eye slit in it. The only place such people were seen was in the summer leaving Harrods or Selfidges for a chaueffer driven car. The Bangladeshi women of the East End might wear white or pink or orange garments with what might be referred to as a shawl.

This was 1994;

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/why-they-cant-turn-their-backs-on-the-veil-islams-strict-dress-code-has-divided-young-muslim-women-1372931.html

Within 25 years, Islamicists have suceeded into getting every "muslim" female in Britain into compulsory hijab, and areas in Tower Hamlets are filled with uppity little " British " born madams in full bin bag and gloves who wont utter the word please or thank you and just expect you to get out of their way when they ram you with their 3 seater pushchairs and the children your tax is paying for.

Parts of Tower Hamlets have become Islamic mono-cultural ghettoes. One ward is the most densely populated piece of land in Europe. Lefties think " multi cultural " = brown people. 100 % white people with the same culture is NOT multicultural. 100% brown people with the same culture = " multi cultural "

The Guardian regularly write hand wrining articles claiming the inhabitants are deprived and back their woeful tales up with statistics which show " unemployment ". Unemployment is not the same as claiming unemployment benefits. And that houses are " " overcrowded ". Well when some folks arrived in Britain and were given a free flat, maybe they should have informed the authorities that they planned to have 6 children or that they were brining their grandparents over.

Tossers attacked two innovate hard working lads, because they were too cowardly to admit what everybody knows about the lefts obsession with Islam.

The Randy Riverbeast · 28-09-2015 05:23PM

acb121 wrote: »

Possibly the most ridiculous, disgusting entitled criminality since the London riots of 2011.

The locals have indeed been " forced " out ... or " encoraged " or " inspired " to move by a feeling they " no longer belong ".

But in era of politcal correctness, nobody would dare tell the truth.

Not by hipsters.

By Bangladeshi colonisation, corruption within the Bangladeshi's in positions of influence, where certain folk seem to be more " favoured " by the largesse of the British Taxpayer than others.

But most importantly, agressive, confrontational, menacing Islamification.

Over 20 years ago, nobody had heard of a " hijab " in Britain, let alone women dressing in a bin bag with an eye slit in it. The only place such people were seen was in the summer leaving Harrods or Selfidges for a chaueffer driven car. The Bangladeshi women of the East End might wear white or pink or orange garments with what might be referred to as a shawl.

This was 1994;

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/why-they-cant-turn-their-backs-on-the-veil-islams-strict-dress-code-has-divided-young-muslim-women-1372931.html

Within 25 years, Islamicists have suceeded into getting every "muslim" female in Britain into compulsory hijab, and areas in Tower Hamlets are filled with uppity little " British " born madams in full bin bag and gloves who wont utter the word please or thank you and just expect you to get out of their way when they ram you with their 3 seater pushchairs and the children your tax is paying for.

Parts of Tower Hamlets have become Islamic mono-cultural ghettoes. One ward is the most densely populated piece of land in Europe. Lefties think " multi cultural " = brown people. 100 % white people with the same culture is NOT multicultural. 100% brown people with the same culture = " multi cultural "

The Guardian regularly write hand wrining articles claiming the inhabitants are deprived and back their woeful tales up with statistics which show " unemployment ". Unemployment is not the same as claiming unemployment benefits. And that houses are " " overcrowded ". Well when some folks arrived in Britain and were given a free flat, maybe they should have informed the authorities that they planned to have 6 children or that they were brining their grandparents over.

Tossers attacked two innovate hard working lads, because they were too cowardly to admit what everybody knows about the lefts obsession with Islam.

So thats why they were covering their faces, they were all women wearing hijabs.

Anti-gentrification protest - Cereal Killer Cafe

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