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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    If you have me on ignore why try and converse with me? Could someone quote this for me please?

    I think it was more a plea to stop posting garbage rather than an attempt to converse with you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Feel free to report any of my posts you consider "garbage".

    Don't shoot the messenger, and don't think I feel I need your permission for that either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,072 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    5starpool wrote: »
    I think we need to replace him, but one good reason for arguing otherwise is that a new manager will definitely take time to build their own squad and be in transition.

    I know (and agree) with the counter arguments, but that is still a good reason for thinking we should not change. It's all about opinions though as always.

    But Rodgers is using that excuse every season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Magico Gonzalez


    The revisionist myopic attitude of some has reached a new low if they think Kenny had us going in the right direction. Carroll , Downing , Charlie adam? Wise up.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭Caovyn Lineah


    The revisionist myopic attitude of some has reached a new low if they think Kenny had us going in the right direction. Carroll , Downing , Charlie adam? Wise up.

    But he signed Suarez, performances don't matter because of that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,072 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    The revisionist myopic attitude of some has reached a new low if they think Kenny had us going in the right direction. Carroll , Downing , Charlie adam? Wise up.

    Why don't you read his post about the Liverpool way of backing the manager in times of trouble. Kenny won a cup by the way Rodgers has won fcuk all.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭Caovyn Lineah


    Why don't you read his post about the Liverpool way of backing the manager in times of trouble. Kenny won a cup by the way Rodgers has won fcuk all.

    So if Rodgers stays in charge, finishes 8th but wins the Milk cup you'll say he's good to stay for another season ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭jcsoulinger


    We've been waiting on this side to gel for the past 2 years and we're still sh*te. I'm sick of this 'in transition' bollocks that Rodgers and his supporters spout. He's had 4 years and has done very little to make us a much better side than we were when he took over. His time is up.

    4 years? we are in transition tho, new players new staff now, it would have been more acceptable to sack rogers in the summer. I'm sick of the fans that call for a managers head 6 games into a new season.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,872 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    But he signed Suarez, performances don't matter because of that.

    Are you criticising Kenny because of the performance of the team under him?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭jpboard1


    Pascoe and the rest of the team shouldn't have been given the sack. It's clear now that they weren't the problem; the man above them was/is.

    And they absolutely can change their mind if they see fit. It was a bad idea to keep him on this season, but at least they can rectify that now by firing him.

    How do you know?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    4 years? we are in transition tho, new players new staff now, it would have been more acceptable to sack rogers in the summer. I'm sick of the fans that call for a managers head 6 games into a new season.

    I wanted him gone in the summer. I still want him gone. New signings, new backroom team etc. doesn't change the fact that I think he's a poor manager.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,415 ✭✭✭Negative_G


    Long time lurker here, barely post in the thread but in general enjoy the discussion and varying points of view.

    However, over the last week or so reading the thread has become incredibly irritating, with one poster specifically who seems to be going out of their way to continually disrupt the the flow of discussion and repeat the same rhetoric ad naseum. I've never had to use the block feature before today but I suggest those having a similar experience use the same.

    Pleased with the result today. Positive and encouraging in attack but still poor at the back. Credit to Lucas who had a great game I thought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    jpboard1 wrote: »
    How do you know?

    How do I know what?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭Caovyn Lineah


    5starpool wrote: »
    Are you criticising Kenny because of the performance of the team under him?

    Nope, he came in and did a fine job steadying the ship but he shouldn't have got the 2nd season. That summer was the time to go and grab a top manager and throw the world at him to sign for us.

    Tactically he was a dinosaur, in the media he was embarrassing. He was completely out of his depth and it showed.

    I feel as though I've been through this before and everyone jumped on me for abusing a club legend. These comments are based on his performance recently, not his performances on the pitch and as the manager in the 80s, this isn't me abusing him on a personal level. This isn't me ****ting on his legacy.

    This is me giving my opinion on his 2nd run as manager.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭Caovyn Lineah


    I wanted him gone in the summer. I still want him gone. New signings, new backroom team etc. doesn't change the fact that I think he's a poor manager.

    Did you think he was a poor manager in late April 2014?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭jpboard1


    Pascoe and the rest of the team shouldn't have been given the sack. It's clear now that they weren't the problem; the man above them was/is.

    How do you know?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    Did you think he was a poor manager in late April 2014?

    No, but that's a long time ago and is also totally irrelevant to my post. Thanks for trying to send me on yet another one of your detours Caovyn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    jpboard1 wrote: »
    How do you know?

    We were **** last season with Pascoe and the rest. We are **** this season without Pascoe and the rest.

    That's how I know.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭Caovyn Lineah


    No, but that's a long time ago and is also totally irrelevant to my post. Thanks for trying to send me on yet another one of your detours Caovyn.

    So he was a great manager in 2014 and now he's crap? Okie doke, we'll leave it there so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭jcsoulinger


    Why don't you read his post about the Liverpool way of backing the manager in times of trouble. Kenny won a cup by the way Rodgers has won fcuk all.

    If your on about my post here, then you have totally missed my point, and I would prefer if you would not poorly parafrase my posts in such a gleeful manner.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,960 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Starting to think Caovyn is actually just the world's best troll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,072 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    So he was a great manager in 2014 and now he's crap? Okie doke, we'll leave it there so.

    Where did he say Rodgers was a great manager in April 2014?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,308 ✭✭✭Pyjamarama


    We were **** last season with Pascoe and the rest. We are **** this season without Pascoe and the rest.

    That's how I know.

    Ugghh... sure we were **** last season with Coutinho and Henderson in the team and have been the same this season. Sell them both sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭jpboard1


    We were **** last season with Pascoe and the rest. We are **** this season without Pascoe and the rest.

    That's how I know.

    We are currently 2 points off 4th. I think even the most optimistic fan would be happy enough if we got 4th this season.

    If after all the hiring and firing and the money spent in the summer, they turned around and fired the manager before September is even over, I think there would be a far bigger problem at the club.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭Caovyn Lineah


    Starting to think Caovyn is actually just the world's best troll.

    That's an outlandish accusation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    So he was a great manager in 2014 and now he's crap? Okie doke, we'll leave it there so.

    No I thought he was a good manager then, and I don't think he's a good manager now.

    But thanks for trying to misquote me there.

    Okie dokie we'll ignore you now so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,960 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    That's an outlandish accusation.

    Based on your posts it's fairly reasonable I'd say


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,872 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Nope, he came in and did a fine job steadying the ship but he shouldn't have got the 2nd season. That summer was the time to go and grab a top manager and throw the world at him to sign for us.

    Tactically he was a dinosaur, in the media he was embarrassing. He was completely out of his depth and it showed.

    I feel as though I've been through this before and everyone jumped on me for abusing a club legend. These comments are based on his performance recently, not his performances on the pitch and as the manager in the 80s, this isn't me abusing him on a personal level. This isn't me ****ting on his legacy.

    This is me giving my opinion on his 2nd run as manager.

    We did really well under him in the half season he had after he took over. If he was got rid of then, there would have been uproar from the club. The first half of the season after was pretty good too until it fell apart after losing at home to Arsenal in late Feb I think when the players seemed to give up in the league games nearly.

    Him being rude to the media didn't bother me at all, f*ck them. Aside from the last few months, the performances under Kenny were no worse than the last 13 months under Rodgers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,308 ✭✭✭Pyjamarama


    No I thought he was a good manager then, and I don't think he's a good manager now.

    But thanks for trying to misquote me there.

    Okie dokie we'll ignore you now so.

    He's still a good manager, he's not doing a good job tho. In the same way that sometimes a players time has come to move on but it doesn't make them bad its the same with Rodgers. He's allowed circumstances to have to big of an adverse effect on the team. I'd be shocked if he doesn't do a good job in his next appointment.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    jpboard1 wrote: »
    We are currently 2 points off 4th. I think even the most optimistic fan would be happy enough if we got 4th this season.

    If after all the hiring and firing and the money spent in the summer, they turned around and fired the manager before September is even over, I think there would be a far bigger problem at the club.

    We've also lost to West Ham at home, drawn with Norwich at home, and just about scraped wins against Stoke, Bournemouth and Villa. We also got trashed at United.

    We will not finish 4th the way we are going this season. Even the most optimistic fan can understand this by watching us play.


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