Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

Caovyn Lineah

5starpool wrote: »

Aside from the last few months, the performances under Kenny were no worse than the last 13 months under Rodgers.

And did you want Kenny sacked?

jpboard1

MightyMandarin wrote: »

We've also lost to West Ham at home, drawn with Norwich at home, and just about scraped wins against Stoke, Bournemouth and Villa. We also got trashed at United.

We will not finish 4th the way we are going this season. Even the most optimistic fan can understand this by watching us play.

So as bad as we have been, we are still only 2 points off 4th. There are no grounds for a sacking.

(United are top of the league, West Ham also beat City)

ush

Great that we scored three today. But we are a mess at the back. We might be able to stumble on for bit. But the wheels will come off again. Then we'll be back to discussing available managers.

Osmosis Jones

We spent most of last season only a couple of points off 4th too, we fell at every hurdle though.

jpboard1

ush wrote: »

Great that we scored three today. But we are a mess at the back. We might be able to stumble on for bit. But the wheels will come off again. Then we'll be back to discussing available managers.

Hopefully not. Fingers crossed that defense will click.

jpboard1

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

We spent most of last season only a couple of points off 4th too, we fell at every hurdle though.

Then a small improvement should see us there. Benteke an sturridge(if he can stay fit) might be enough!

Osmosis Jones

jpboard1 wrote: »

Then a small improvement should see us there. Benteke an sturridge(if he can stay fit) might be enough!

Unfortunately there have been no signs of any improvement.

weldoninhio

5starpool wrote: »

If you ignore all his awful posts though he's a great poster.

I nearly choked on my biscuit you b0ll#x. Hahaha 10/10

ush

jpboard1 wrote: »

There are no grounds for a sacking.

The 6-1. Bordeaux. Norwich. West Ham. Carlisle. Defending is a mess.

5starpool

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

And did you want Kenny sacked?

After 4 or so poor months? No. I conceded though that it may have been for the best, but I did not want him sacked.

Also, I would give Kenny more time than anyone else because of who he is and what he has achieved and gone through for the club over many years.

I would much rather the club win something with the clubs biggest legend (apart from Shankly probably) in charge than anyone else. Realistic? Probably not, but it would be the best feeling ever.

Caovyn Lineah

ush wrote: »

The 6-1. Bordeaux. Norwich. West Ham. Carlisle. Defending is a mess.

All that and yet, 3 points off 3rd place.

Caovyn Lineah

5starpool wrote: »

After 4 or so poor months? No. I conceded though that it may have been for the best, but I did not want him sacked.

Also, I would give Kenny more time than anyone else because of who he is and what he has achieved and gone through for the club over many years.

I would much rather the club win something with the clubs biggest legend (apart from Shankly probably) in charge than anyone else. Realistic? Probably not, but it would be the best feeling ever.

You'd give him more time no matter how out of his depth he looked simply because of what he did 30 years previous?

weldoninhio

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

So if Rodgers stays in charge, finishes 8th but wins the Milk cup you'll say he's good to stay for another season ?

Why would Rodgers be managing the U-15s or 17s as well as the first team?? And who would look after the first team while he was in NI during the Milk Cup tournament??

He might finally win something though in fairness.

monkey9

Milkers wrote: »

The problem that day vs Chelsea was not that Gerrard slipped; it was more his fking awful attempt to control the ball!

No no, it was the slip.

happyoutscan

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

That's an outlandish accusation.

Agreed, you're only in the top 10.

Caovyn Lineah

weldoninhio wrote: »

Why would Rodgers be managing the U-15s or 17s as well as the first team?? And who would look after the first team while he was in NI during the Milk Cup tournament??

He might finally win something though in fairness.

Oh yet another attempt to be funny failing miserably. Do yourself a favour and read up on the many names the League cup has had over the years.

weldoninhio

Pyjamarama wrote: »

Ugghh... sure we were **** last season with Coutinho and Henderson in the team and have been the same this season. Sell them both sure.

Coutinhio can go to Brazil and play well, Henderson can go to England and play well. They come back to Liverpool and the team plays crap. What's the common denominator??

Charlie19

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

You'd give him more time no matter how out of his depth he looked simply because of what he did 30 years previous?

But yet still managed to reach two finals.

jcsoulinger

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Unfortunately there have been no signs of any improvement.

The last three performance's have been much better Helen Keller could see that.

Our striking options this year are much better than last.

Iused2likebusts

Didnt see the game today just the goals. Lucas supposedly had a good game going by posters on here. His lack of pace cost us for the first goal though.

~Rebel~

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

You'd give him more time no matter how out of his depth he looked simply because of what he did 30 years previous?

Such a pointless, and badly phrased question.

"no matter how out of his depth he looked"

That bit has nothing to do with anything. It had nothing to do with 5Star's post, and is only included to once again try to turn an argument around into a horrible circular mess. Please just, like, stop doing this. You can make your point in other ways without this need to constantly throw back a question. Just make your point and move on. It'll be taken or it won't.

His extremely obvious point was that all things being equal, the respect and adoration Kenny earned over a really long period of time rightfully buys him the benefit of the doubt over some random guy with none of that behind him. I think most fans would agree. I certainly would.

Give me Kenny and Rodgers with exactly the same results, and I will always, always give Kenny that little bit more time. Football support by its very nature is sentimental to a degree.

monkey9

5starpool wrote: »

After 4 or so poor months? No. I conceded though that it may have been for the best, but I did not want him sacked.

Also, I would give Kenny more time than anyone else because of who he is and what he has achieved and gone through for the club over many years.

I would much rather the club win something with the clubs biggest legend (apart from Shankly probably) in charge than anyone else. Realistic? Probably not, but it would be the best feeling ever.

I would definitely have given Kenny another season, but i wasn't too peturbed when they let him go.

It was the appointment of Rodgers that made the Kenny decision baffling. I mean, i got behind the appointment, why wouldn't I. I can't affect the decisions and i support the club. But he wouldn't have been the manager i'd have chosen. Far from it.

Osmosis Jones

jcsoulinger wrote: »

The last three performance's have been much better Helen Keller could see that.

Our striking options this year are much better than last.

A draw at home to Norwich, a penalty shootout win to Carlisle and a home win to Villa

weldoninhio

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Oh yet another attempt to be funny failing miserably. Do yourself a favour and read up on the many names the League cup has had over the years.

I'm not being funny, the only Milk Cup that Rodgers can win with Liverpool is played by kids in NI, unless he's gotten that Flux Capacitor working and can go back to one of the 4 years in the long history of the league cup that it was sponsored by the Milk Board.

weldoninhio

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

A draw at home to Norwich, a penalty shootout win to Carlisle and a home win to Villa

If only the ROI squad hadn't released it for WC2002, Here Comes The Good Times could replace YNWA

5starpool

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

You'd give him more time no matter how out of his depth he looked simply because of what he did 30 years previous?

Where did I say that? For someone so big on reading comprehension you'd want to brush up on it.

He did well for his first 2 half seasons before a disastrous next half of a league campaign, during which we still won a trophy and got to another final. What he achieved previously as a manager (85-91, not 30 years) or as a player (77-87 I think) was a reason why I'd be more patient with him than anyone else, but it wouldn't buy infinite patience by any means.

You calling for far more patience for Rodgers while being so quick to dismiss Kenny is very contradictory though. You say you don't care how we play if we win, and for 2/3 of Kenny's reign he was doing better than Rodgers for more than 2/3 of his reign so far.

Tipsy McSwagger

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Oh yet another attempt to be funny failing miserably. Do yourself a favour and read up on the many names the League cup has had over the years.

The 'Hasn't Been Won By Rodgers Cup' is my favorite.

ush

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

All that and yet, 3 points off 3rd place.

The league is only seven games in. We will be left far behind if this continues. We'll also be embarrassed in europe and the cups.

jcsoulinger

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

A draw at home to Norwich, a penalty shootout win to Carlisle and a home win to Villa

I did say performances! Your just focusing on results, the team is definitely improving.

BorneTobyWilde

I can't judge rodgers on last season, Sturridge has score more league goals in today's one game than Malo Belli score all last season. Last season was crazy in that we had no goal threat.
I can only judge him now he has the tools to win. I think we did enough to beat Arsenal and Norwich, and I think United are lucky to be top of league, they have been as poor but have got the rub of the green.
Rodgers needs more time, it's not Liverpool to sack someone at start of season. When was last time that happened??