Best 2 litre diesel car in the market

Pushkov · 14-09-2015 11:54AM #1

I am thinking of upgrading my car to a new 2 litre diesel for next year. Still actively doing the research; but these are the cars shortlisted for now:

1) Skoda Superb
2) Toyota Rav4
3) Volkswagen Passat

I am thinking of going for PCP option.

Is there any other cars I missed? I just would like to know considering depreciation and the value which is the best car out there. Please also comment if buying a new car is not a good idea?

Thanks,

colm_mcm · 14-09-2015 12:05PM

how did the rav4 end up in that list?

Pushkov · 14-09-2015 12:09PM

"how did the rav4 end up in that list?"

I consider both saloons and SUVs. Since Rav4's fuel efficiency is good, I put that also in that list.

mullingar · 14-09-2015 01:38PM

Pushkov wrote: »

I am thinking of upgrading my car to a new 2 litre diesel for next year. Still actively doing the research; but these are the cars shortlisted for now:

1) Skoda Superb
2) Toyota Rav4
3) Volkswagen Passat

I am thinking of going for PCP option.

Is there any other cars I missed? I just would like to know considering depreciation and the value which is the best car out there. Please also comment if buying a new car is not a good idea?

Thanks,

Same cars, different badge......

/runs for cover

colm_mcm · 14-09-2015 01:57PM

I can't see the rav4 hold on as much value as the other's. I'd imagine they'll replace the 2.0 engine with the bmw 1.6 engine soon.

Pushkov · 14-09-2015 02:13PM

Thanks - that is a valid information. Does it mean they wont have a 2.0 diesel option in 2016? I was under the impression that depreciation is low for Rav4.

colm_mcm · 14-09-2015 03:04PM

rav4s used to hike their money well but the qashqai is the depreciation daddy since 2007

Canadel · 14-09-2015 03:27PM

Had a 2011 Ford Mondeo 2 litre diesel - one of the nicest cars I've driven and I include audi and bemmers in that.

Notch000 · 14-09-2015 03:50PM

mullingar wrote: »

Same cars, different badge......

/runs for cover

are you sure, I always thought the superb was a much bigger car , epically inside?

bazz26 · 14-09-2015 04:49PM

Canadel wrote: »

Had a 2011 Ford Mondeo 2 litre diesel - one of the nicest cars I've driven and I include audi and bemmers in that.

Hardly going to have low depreciation though which the OP wants. Mondeos traditionally suffer big depreciation.

ifeelstupid · 15-09-2015 10:50AM

Not a 2L but I would include Honda Accord on that list, ultra reliable (in my experience) and 50+ mpg

colm_mcm · 15-09-2015 10:54AM

they're a bit long in the tooth now though

Tea 1000 · 15-09-2015 11:29AM

Notch000 wrote: »

are you sure, I always thought the superb was a much bigger car , epically inside?

No, boards talk make people believe that. Same car, Superb is a slightly stretched platform, making the car 9.4 cm longer, or 5.0 cm longer wheel-base. Hardly "much bigger"! Handy for rear seat space if the front folk are tall.
I'd go with the Passat Highline. Great all round car.

bazz26 · 15-09-2015 01:52PM

You will not get 50+mpg from the i-DTEC Accord diesel. Mid to late 40s is probably as good as you will get unless you drive like a granny.

ifeelstupid · 15-09-2015 10:37PM

bazz26 wrote: »

You will not get 50+mpg from the i-DTEC Accord diesel. Mid to late 40s is probably as good as you will get unless you drive like a granny.

I am consistently getting around 52mpg on mainly national and regional roads, occasionally have granny in the car but don't let her take the wheel:pac:

colm_mcm · 15-09-2015 10:42PM

I can't see anybody giving the accord a high enough gmfw to make PCP affordable. It'll be discontinued by the time the term ends.

George Dalton · 15-09-2015 10:43PM

ifeelstupid wrote: »

I am consistently getting around 52mpg on mainly national and regional roads, occasionally have granny in the car but don't let her take the wheel:pac:

An i-DTEC?
Can't be done IMO.

An i-CTDi?
Plausible.

George Dalton · 15-09-2015 10:48PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

I can't see anybody giving the accord a high enough gmfw to make PCP affordable. It'll be discontinued by the time the term ends.

It will also be an absolutely ancient design.

Having said that, at the moment secondhand values are incredibly high, especially for the EX models.

bazz26 · 15-09-2015 11:40PM

Dealers still have a good few of them new unsold despite them being no longer made for the last 8 months.

tanko · 16-09-2015 09:04PM

bazz26 wrote: »

Dealers still have a good few of them new unsold despite them being no longer made for the last 8 months.

So, is the Accord finished for good. Are they replacing it with something else?

colm_mcm · 16-09-2015 09:07PM

There is a new global model accord spirior supposedly on the way, but no word on whether Europe will get it.
The trend is away from non premium large saloons.

bazz26 · 16-09-2015 09:42PM

Honda have no plans to sell a new Accord in Europe again anytime soon. They don't even offer the Civic is saloon here anymore either. They seem to be concentrating on crossovers and small SUVs now. HRV is making a comeback to rival the Nissan Juke.

Tun_80 · 22-09-2015 08:45PM

Just thought I'd share my view as I've drove the new Passat and Superb in the last week, the Passat was 151 Comfortline and Superb was 152 Style, The Passat I thought was lovely to look at and interior was well finished but a complete bore to drive and unless your willing to spend stupid money on extras it had no wow factor for what your spending, it was the 1.6 tho so I'd presume the 2.0 is allot better, but with the price I bet 95% of new Passats will be 1.6.

The Skoda on the other hand although 10k dearer than the Passat I drove had everything, lovely on the road, very well equipped and finished. We were actually giddy getting out of it, it left that good an impression, after driving it I feel Skoda is entering a new era and would recommend anyone thinking about one to just go for it, styling imo is in a different league to their old stuff.

colm_mcm · 22-09-2015 08:47PM

You should have driven a fully loaded Passat as well.

Gorteen · 22-09-2015 08:49PM

Toyota Avensis 2.0 D4D.

Great engine. Comfortable and very reliable.

Tun_80 · 22-09-2015 08:52PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

You should have driven a fully loaded Passat as well.

Yes I wouldn't doubt it's would be a fantastic car fully loaded and with the 2 litre but your pushing 50k then while the Superb was around the 38k mark, doesn't make sense to me unless u feel it has to be a Passat!

bazz26 · 22-09-2015 08:58PM

Where are you getting a fully loaded Superb for 38k? A 2.0 TDi 150bhp L&K Superb starts at just over 40k, and that's before you start ticking the options list. The days for buying Skodas 10k cheaper than VWs are well gone.

MuppetCheck · 22-09-2015 09:00PM

Tun_80 wrote: »

Yes I wouldn't doubt it's would be a fantastic car fully loaded and with the 2 litre but your pushing 50k then while the Superb was around the 38k mark, doesn't make sense to me unless u feel it has to be a Passat!

It won't cost you 50k to match the Superbs spec with the Passat... There's cheap packs at the moment and it would come in and around the same price.

simdan · 22-09-2015 09:06PM

MuppetCheck wrote:

It won't cost you 50k to match the Superbs spec with the Passat... There's cheap packs at the moment and it would come in and around the same price.

So the 10-12k saving doesn't really apply.. I'd go with the passat any day of the week at the same money.. Miss my 2.0 170 sport..

Tun_80 · 22-09-2015 09:07PM

bazz26 wrote: »

Where are you getting a fully loaded Superb for 38k? A 2.0 TDi 150bhp L&K Superb starts at just over 40k, and that's before you start ticking the options list. The days for buying Skodas 10k cheaper than VWs are well gone.

Sorry, yes your correct, but it had everything you'd actually want, to get the Passat with roughly the same spec would be 47-48k it was painfully obvious in the Passat when you haven't selected an extra as there's loads of empty black plastic buttons, it highlights what you didn't get.

Armchair Andy · 22-09-2015 09:29PM

George Dalton wrote:

Having said that, at the moment secondhand values are incredibly high, especially for the EX models.

Why so that? Thinking of trading in my own EX as baba no. 2 on the way. plus I've lost all my crown hair lifting number 1 in and out of the back door!

Best 2 litre diesel car in the market

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