Motors Chat - Round 9

thisyear · 16-09-2015 11:47PM

jimgoose wrote: »

It's somewhat larger stablemate, the RG500 Gamma, was a 500cc square-four two-stroke with a pair of counter-rotating cranks. It wasn't, umm, quite so economical.

Ah nice, little more than the 50mph too!!

jimgoose · 16-09-2015 11:48PM

thisyear wrote: »

Ah nice, little more than the 50mph too!!

A tad, yes. Mostly a case of light the touch-paper and hold on for dear life.

OldMrBrennan83 · 17-09-2015 08:02AM

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colm_mcm · 17-09-2015 09:44AM

Patww79 wrote: »

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No.
I'd say it could be from the Middle East

Tea 1000 · 17-09-2015 09:49AM

Interslice wrote: »

What % of first year students has 5000 euro to blow on a car?

The figure I guess has been derived from the cost of a years rent in Dublin. It's massive money to rent now, €550 to €650 a month and you have to sign the lease for 12 months. So PCP on a car or buying a car for €5k is much cheaper over 4 years.
That or just buy a house and rent out the other 3 rooms!

CIP4 · 17-09-2015 10:22AM

OSI wrote: »

You've contradicted yourself there and stated exactly why for so many people, it isn't a stupid system.

Well I suppose I have and haven't. My point about it is these people end up being in debt long term for their new cars ie never pay off or own it. Which paying car loans long term I think is a bad system. Surly people would be happier with slightly older cars that they could own after 2-3 years.

Chris_Heilong · 17-09-2015 10:43AM

But they are paying hundreds every month that they could have in their pockets if they opted for a 2nd hand car that they actually owned and could do with what they pleased.

I think its a bit of a scam also, its attractive to people who want it new and now regardless of if the numbers dont add up, but it is a vicious cycle and turns all cars into disposable objects so I can see why the general public dont care if they ding your P&J in a car park or they view 10 year old cars as being "really Old".

jimgoose · 17-09-2015 10:48AM

OSI wrote: »

But the vast majority of people can't afford to just dump a load of cash on a car in one go so they'll probably be getting a loan for it anyway. If you told someone that for the same amount each month they could get a 2008 Focus that after 3 years they'll owe nothing on, or a brand new Focus that after 3 years they can trade in for another new car for similar money of course they're gonna take the second option.

Using the same logic no one would ever rent houses.

Very few people actually want to rent houses. Similarly, anyone with a basic grasp of arithmetic would shave their own head with a cheesegrater before going near any sort of dealer finance.

Special Circumstances · 17-09-2015 10:48AM

Surely it must drive down second hand prices as it gets more and more popular.

Yay if you want an abused used clattery diesel I suppose.

MetzgerMeister · 17-09-2015 10:51AM

PCP on a house - after 3 years trade it in an upgrade to a new house. You'd be living in a mansion in no time :pac:

jimgoose · 17-09-2015 11:16AM

OSI wrote: »

...Why though? Any of the interest rates I've seen offered by the manufacturers have been considerably better than those offered by banks.

That's as may be. But people are handing over about five grand a year for the privilege of driving an over-priced, under-powered appliance who's DPF will gum up like something out of Pompeii and who's DMF will explode.

Tea 1000 · 17-09-2015 11:23AM

jimgoose wrote: »

That's as may be. But people are handing over about five grand a year for the privilege of driving an over-priced, under-powered appliance who's DPF will gum up like something out of Pompeii and who's DMF will explode.

But the advantage of doing that means you won't care, it'll be under warranty.

jimgoose · 17-09-2015 11:31AM

OSI wrote: »

...2008 Focus, his DMF destroys itself and now he's out of pocket even further.

There's a pattern starting to emerge here. I wonder if trucks are similarly afflicted, i.e. people who work hard for a living and expect their equipment to function properly and earn it's keep. Or is this another of these things that Paddy-Go-Backwards civilian puts up with because he's been duped into thinking he's away for slates, while Günther breaks his hole laughing at him?

Tea 1000 · 17-09-2015 11:33AM

jimgoose wrote: »

There's a pattern starting to emerge here. I wonder if trucks are similarly afflicted, i.e. people who work hard for a living and expect their equipment to function properly and earn it's keep. Or is this another of these things that Paddy-Go-Backwards civilian puts up with because he's been duped into thinking he's away for slates, while Günther breaks his hole laughing at him?

Euro 6 compliant trucks are apparently a nightmare. All the Euro 5 remaining Scanias were bought up by the hauliers to avoid the new Euro 6 ones. So not only cars are choked to death by emission reducing crap in the system.

jimgoose · 17-09-2015 11:46AM

Tea 1000 wrote: »

Euro 6 compliant trucks are apparently a nightmare. All the Euro 5 remaining Scanias were bought up by the hauliers to avoid the new Euro 6 ones. So not only cars are choked to death by emission reducing crap in the system.

Mmm. Check out the "Wave" concept truck, powered by a microturbine:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_turbine#Microturbines

Dord · 17-09-2015 12:01PM

Sh1te... I need two front tyres. Tracking was off and they wore pretty bad on the inside. Will have to get them replaced and keep an eye in future. How often would you get your tracking done/checked?

jimgoose · 17-09-2015 12:03PM

Dord wrote: »

Sh1te... I need two front tyres. Tracking was off and they wore pretty bad on the inside. Will have to get them replaced and keep an eye in future. How often would you get your tracking done/checked?

About every six months. I got caught similarly a few months back though - the car started eating the front tyres, the nearside one in particular. It turned out one of the track-rods needed replacing.

GvidoR · 17-09-2015 12:16PM

Ah sure these discs have at least another 2000 miles on them. :pac:

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Dord · 17-09-2015 12:30PM

jimgoose wrote: »

About every six months. I got caught similarly a few months back though - the car started eating the front tyres, the nearside one in particular. It turned out one of the track-rods needed replacing.

My estate is full of those little "bolt-on" speed bumps so I'd say they don't help. Garage didn't mention any issues with the suspension other than tracking. Will speak to them later.

Special Circumstances · 17-09-2015 12:33PM

Dord wrote: »

Sh1te... I need two front tyres. Tracking was off and they wore pretty bad on the inside. Will have to get them replaced and keep an eye in future. How often would you get your tracking done/checked?

Once it's done right? By someone who knows what they are doing? Never again until I notice unusual wear or something is replaced or adjusted in suspension.

There are more jokers out there than people who can actually track a car properly.

dr.fuzzenstein · 17-09-2015 01:24PM

Special Circumstances wrote: »

Once it's done right? By someone who knows what they are doing? Never again until I notice unusual wear or something is replaced or adjusted in suspension.

There are more jokers out there than people who can actually track a car properly.

I'm always lucky, as soon as I get the tracking done I WILL hit something within a week and usually hard enough to destroy a tire and warp the alloy.
Once it even bent a tie rod end, so it couldn't even be adjusted.
Lousy backroads in Ireland.

Special Circumstances · 17-09-2015 01:47PM

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Lousy backroads in Ireland.

Even if you have enough suspension and sidewall to handle the road you'll be limited y those who are in denial about the irish road network.

The worser the road, the worser the local felters. Clown in toledo had us at funeral cortege pace on the morning commute. Awesome lad awesome, doesn't get much cooler.

YbFocus · 17-09-2015 04:51PM

Arches being rolled as we speak

Excited!

pred racer · 17-09-2015 05:05PM

YbFocus wrote: »

Arches being rolled as we speak
Excited!

Gimme a loan of your car, I'll roll the whole thing for you........for free:D

YbFocus · 17-09-2015 05:34PM

pred racer wrote: »

Gimme a loan of your car, I'll roll the whole thing for you........for free:D

Great i just burst out laughing in front of your man, i look like a weirdo

frozenfrozen · 17-09-2015 05:46PM

There are two really bad spots on the way home from lit and every single day I meet a car coming in the other direction at exactly the wrong time so I can't swerve out to fully miss them. One on the way in and one on the way out. Every single time.

GvidoR · 17-09-2015 06:09PM

Put your car on a hoist, they said. It'll be fun, they said.

fancy pigeon · 17-09-2015 06:12PM

Play wth photoshop they said. It'll be fun they said

Supergurrier · 17-09-2015 10:12PM

Quiet in here tonight

CIP4 · 17-09-2015 10:17PM

Supergurrier wrote: »

Quiet in here tonight

I have a second round interview tomorrow so I'm preparing for that no real car news that I can think off other than the fact I need to get oil tomorrow. Would there be many motor factors that stock elf oil or many be I should just save myself the hardship and go straight to main dealers.

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