LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day

Truckermal · 12-09-2015 05:37AM

http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/10300638

Another barge but not likely to break you..I wonder what would buy it on a straight cash deal??

power pants · 12-09-2015 07:45PM

would be nice if they had proper pictures of the car

Truckermal · 12-09-2015 10:13PM

power pants wrote: »

would be nice if they had proper pictures of the car

Aye and it's a dealer too, the pics are outrageous. .

bidiots · 13-09-2015 09:44AM

Truckermal wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/10300638

Another barge but not likely to break you..I wonder what would buy it on a straight cash deal??

Scroll, scroll, scroll.. "Too many extras to list"..... Oh do fcuk off! Discard

Tommyboy40 · 15-09-2015 08:53AM

Maybe it's just me but Lexus never have the premium feel that you expect from a Luxobarge. The early ones had horrible interiors and are too gimmicky

Brasso · 15-09-2015 12:09PM

V8 Aluminium Jag with 9 months test, asking €3,250.

Brasso · 15-09-2015 12:15PM

And an XJ6 with 11 months NCT asking €3,450. I was actually able to get a half decent quote from FBD on one of these using their online quote system, about €1500 and I'm 24. They're €300 cheaper to tax than the XJ8 also.

Atlantic Dawn · 15-09-2015 12:38PM

Brasso wrote: »

V8 Aluminium Jag with 9 months test, asking €3,250.

Would the air suspension be a weak spot?

colm_mcm · 15-09-2015 12:48PM

Brasso wrote: »

And an XJ6 with 11 months NCT asking €3,450. I was actually able to get a half decent quote from FBD on one of these using their online quote system, about €1500 and I'm 24. They're €300 cheaper to tax than the XJ8 also.

My 240bhp 3.0 S Type was cheaper to insure than the 89bhp diesel Avensis it replaced.....

Brasso · 15-09-2015 01:09PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Would the air suspension be a weak spot?

Yeah I believe all the X350 (03 on) XJs had air suspension on all four corners, while its replacement the X351 went for springs up front and air in the back. As far as I know they do throw up some common faults, but don't have the tendency to fail completely and cause the car to collapse to the ground like you often see in early W220 S-Classes.

cadaliac · 15-09-2015 01:59PM

@Brasso, why is the xj6 (3.0) cheaper than the xj8 (3.6) to tax? I thought the ceiling for high tax was 3.0l on a pre 08 car (both 2003)?

unkel · 15-09-2015 02:03PM

Because max tax doesn't start until 3,001cc

Most 3l cars are actually a bit under 3l...

Me, I'd gladly pay a few hundred more to have a V8 instead of a V6, especially in a car this size.

frozenfrozen · 15-09-2015 03:53PM

by the time I have enough years no claims bonus all the luxobarges will be gone

jimgoose · 15-09-2015 03:58PM

Brasso wrote: »

...And an XJ6 with 11 months NCT asking €3,450. I was actually able to get a half decent quote from FBD on one of these using their online quote system, about €1500 and I'm 24. They're €300 cheaper to tax than the XJ8 also.

I'm sure I drove that, it used to belong to a friend of mine. Anyway, 94,000 miles is nothing on those things.

Brasso · 15-09-2015 04:10PM

cadaliac wrote: »

@Brasso, why is the xj6 (3.0) cheaper than the xj8 (3.6) to tax? I thought the ceiling for high tax was 3.0l on a pre 08 car (both 2003)?

Yeah as Unkel said the V6 is just a bit under 3,000 cc so it gets the lower rate of €1494 vs 1809 or €411 per quarter vs €522. There's the 2.7 diesel also, but that's going to hold its value a lot better.
@jimgoose I'm sure it would hapily do that mileage once again and beyond once priperlypriperly maintained.

jimgoose · 15-09-2015 11:22PM

Brasso wrote: »

Yeah as Unkel said the V6 is just a bit under 3,000 cc so it gets the lower rate of €1494 vs 1809 or €411 per quarter vs €522. There's the 2.7 diesel also, but that's going to hold its value a lot better.
@jimgoose I'm sure it would hapily do that mileage once again and beyond once priperlypriperly maintained.

Hell yes. And the V6 is 2,967cc.

landmarkjohn · 17-09-2015 02:10PM

frozenfrozen wrote: »

by the time I have enough years no claims bonus all the luxobarges will be gone

You might still be able to pick up a well minded 07 730i in a couple of years...;).... and then I'll have no idea what I am going to do!

Very very little luxobarge sold since 2008... and my income could be less and I will need to get into... Kia Ce'ed??.... gulp!

Which is better, aspiring to an affordable luxobarge... or getting there and knowing that next car will most likely be a backward step?

Black_Knight · 17-09-2015 02:46PM

landmarkjohn wrote: »

You might still be able to pick up a well minded 07 730i in a couple of years...;).... and then I'll have no idea what I am going to do!

Very very little luxobarge sold since 2008... and my income could be less and I will need to get into... diesel Kia Ce'ed??.... gulp!

Which is better, aspiring to an affordable luxobarge... or getting there and knowing that next car will most likely be a backward step?

Made your post worse.*

[size=-2]*im a diesel owner[/size]

unkel · 17-09-2015 02:48PM

landmarkjohn wrote: »

Very very little luxobarge sold since 2008...

And the ones sold are nearly all diesels. Importing petrol luxobarges from the UK will remain an option but attracts heavy VRT penalties and obviously the €2,300 annual motor tax

The future is not looking bright for luxobarge ownership in this country

frozenfrozen · 17-09-2015 04:41PM

The 08+ petrols with 2300 tax will have to be garaged until they get classic tax

ofcork · 17-09-2015 06:05PM

I wouldnt say there are very little luxos sold since 08 without looking at the stats,plenty of s class around and quite a few 7ers.

166man · 17-09-2015 06:18PM

ofcork wrote: »

I wouldnt say there are very little luxos sold since 08 without looking at the stats,plenty of s class around and quite a few 7ers.

All things being relative they're are much less on the road since before the crash of the 2008 though.....

unkel · 17-09-2015 06:43PM

ofcork wrote: »

I wouldnt say there are very little luxos sold since 08 without looking at the stats,plenty of s class around and quite a few 7ers.

Eh yeah. S320CDI and 730d account for at least 95% of all the S-class and 7-series sold since the new regime.

I'll pass.

Tommyboy40 · 18-09-2015 09:16AM

It's why i starve keeping my 2 V8's, in ten years everyone will be driving a euro ****box. As for electric, how much will they cost to charge when it's no longer free. The on street charge points pull 73Amps and send out 50kV, that's more than a house.

Red Kev · 18-09-2015 03:26PM

3 7ers.....

First up this; V8 730i, NCT 03/16, €1800.

Says it has new tyres, check the date and brand and you'll get a good idea if it's been looked after, seems reasonably priced either way. No decent pics of the outside of the car, but it's in Dublin so handy for a lot of people.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1995-bmw-730i-v8/10283347?offset=24

Then this.. E32 730i about €2500 including VRT and a bit off for haggling, 10 months MOT means it should be in good nick. Very classy cars IMO.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1990-e32-bmw-730/10309418?offset=20

And this E23. Ok, it costs €5950 but the classic tax will help running costs over a couple of years, as will the LPG. No mention of an NCT but seller claims it's currently in use, whatever that means. Very reliable car, easy to work on, I shared a gaff in Germany with a lad who had one and I knew a few others who had them. Has most extras apart from leather.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/bmw-735i-e23/10068577?offset=5

unkel · 18-09-2015 04:18PM

Very cool car that E23. NCT out several months. For that kinda money I would expect a very long NCT and the car in near showroom condition though.

Not much point in having the car on LPG if you're going to have it on mileage restricted classic insurance either. Wishing the seller the best of luck though

Atlantic Dawn · 18-09-2015 04:51PM

unkel wrote: »

Eh yeah. S320CDI and 730d account for at least 95% of all the S-class and 7-series sold since the new regime.

I'll pass.

It really does boggle the mind that someone would choose a diesel in these cars with the big outlay when buying them. Even with the €2300 tax a year on a €100k car that's not even 2.5% of the cost per year on an asset depreciating by a good 25% a year.

mickdw · 18-09-2015 05:01PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

It really does boggle the mind that someone would choose a diesel in these cars with the big outlay when buying them. Even with the €2300 tax a year on a €100k car that's not even 2.5% of the cost per year on an asset depreciating by a good 25% a year.

To be fair, the diesel is a reasonable choice. Its not like they are tractor sounding. The diesel s class sounds fantastic and is a very nice engine.
People with 100k to spend on private cars did not get the money by throwing money all around them. They are usually the tightest people.
They will buy the diesel S Class 90 percent of the time. It's super smooth, very nicely powered, chapter to run, cheaper to tax and will be worth more in a few years.
I know more than a few of these type and they would never even dream of buying a petrol anything. They scoff at petrol cars, more or less saying it would be a fine car is it were diesel. Petrol - worth nothing.

Red Kev · 18-09-2015 07:07PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

It really does boggle the mind that someone would choose a diesel in these cars with the big outlay when buying them. Even with the €2300 tax a year on a €100k car that's not even 2.5% of the cost per year on an asset depreciating by a good 25% a year.

Most cars in that class are leased, certainly on the continent. Tend to have higher mileage than average in their first couple of years so fuel costs are important. Servicing costs aren't as important as the bigger bills tend to be after a couple of years when the car is with its second owner. The older and cheaper the car, the more desirable diesels are for resale.

Big, powerful diesel engines became popular in the 1990's as a direct response to demands by fleet buyers and fleet purchasers to reduce costs in the ownership and day to day running of company cars, its raelly nothing to do with individual rich buyers.

Big Nasty · 18-09-2015 07:38PM

I wonder about the big V8 / V12 luxobarge classic status in the future. You can pick up an unattractive barge for practically nothing now while a decent well kept, well specced barge might set you back 4 / 5k (think Voodoos 728). Surely something like that is gonna appreciate in value come 2030?

To become a valuable future classic it firstly has to be rare but historically the vast majority of big (or even decent) money classics are coupes. To be honest I reckon the like of an 840 / 850 would be a far better future investment than a 740 / 750 or similar.

LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day

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