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DCM 2015: Mentored Novices Thread
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Could be over hydration...what colour is your wee btw? In the morning it will (normally) be dark yellow but you should achieve a light yellow/straw colour by lunch time if properly hydrated. If your urine is frequently clear, it may be a sign that you're drinking too much. I usually have a glass of water before bed, two if I've been ahem sipping vino but not any more. I suppose that's an individual capacity so try cutting back liquids at night and see if that gets you through the night. Getting up to wee counts as a sleep interruption so it would be worth trying to fix it nowAnybody else find themselves waking up to go to the toilet during the night? It's become a nightly occurrence for me recently - is it part of the increased hydration i.e. drinking more water more often? Or am I getting the hydration wrong - or am I getting paranoid about everything must be related to the plan!
Ask away Bk but as you say, we might not be able to offer you advice specific to your race...but if we can help, we willBattery Kinzie wrote: »I'm not doing the DCM, but am thinking of doing the Clontarf HM in 10 weeks, and I'm a definite novice. Can I use this thread for asking advice and all, or is there somewhere else? I don't want to be clogging up this thread with posts that shouldn't be here.
Have a look on the main forum, if there's no thread for this year's Clontarf winter HM, you could always start one.
^^^vvv hehe glad to hear you're listening to your bodies guysDeleted User wrote: »Strange question but has anyone else begun to crave any particular food? I've realised that I am addicted to avocados, a food that I was indifferent to before. Not the worst food in the world to crave but it's a weird feeling, I was thinking maybe there's something in it my body is lacking. Just me or are ye having similar cravings? Mine last year was tinned mackerel in oil and nuts...all of them! 
Red&Black Jelly Babies and Chocolate milk (Moo-Ju)....not together mind you!! Also liking the Aldi Moser Roth Dark Chocolate...not before a run though..:eek:.
My friend (also doing the DCM) is eating buckets and buckets of fresh Cashew nuts as his new found craving.....each to their own.......0 -
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Could be over hydration...what colour is your wee btw? In the morning it will (normally) be dark yellow but you should achieve a light yellow/straw colour by lunch time if properly hydrated. If your urine is frequently clear, it may be a sign that you're drinking too much. I usually have a glass of water before bed, two if I've been ahem sipping vino but not any more. I suppose that's an individual capacity so try cutting back liquids at night and see if that gets you through the night. Getting up to wee counts as a sleep interruption so it would be worth trying to fix it now
:pac: This came up on my tumblr feed last night. Thought it was worth sharing!0 -
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So my little whinge the other day may have been a little too early.. last 2 nights running and feeling good. Nothing over 4 miles yet but might give it a little push over the weekend to 5-6 miles.
Will still probably miss half marathon.. Just to check with Physio and maybe run it as a LSR.(hardest thing to do id say)
Marathon.. who knows? 4 hour is maybe gone though but a comfortable finish may still be on the cards!!
G'wan the runnning!!! 0 -
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I disagree. I reckon if that is what you want to do then you have the perfect combination to do it. Will power to want to lose weight, and really excellent cardio exercise to keep toned/improve fitness and shed lbs. The part that will see you fail is most likely the will power, or lack thereof, as regards your food&liquid ingestion. If you are putting the miles in, then that is more than half the battle.
What kind of cardio exercise? We were all told, those of us doing cardio/workouts/gym etc to drop a session in favour of a run. I might have misread or am misunderstanding but that would appear to tell me that cardio doesn't go hand in hand with marathon training. Or am I way off?
Food intake is also a very personal thing and depends on the person themselves. I get told by various people that I a) eat too much (even though it's all healthy, non-processed foods) or b) I don't eat enough. Who am I to believe?
And I don't think anyone here lacks willpower! We all have it in spades! 0 -
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This Fat Girl Runs wrote: »What kind of cardio exercise? We were all told, those of us doing cardio/workouts/gym etc to drop a session in favour of a run. I might have misread or am misunderstanding but that would appear to tell me that cardio doesn't go hand in hand with marathon training. Or am I way off?
Food intake is also a very personal thing and depends on the person themselves. I get told by various people that I a) eat too much (even though it's all healthy, non-processed foods) or b) I don't eat enough. Who am I to believe?
And I don't think anyone here lacks willpower! We all have it in spades!
By cardio I am referring to running here. There are other cardio work outs, but I would think that marathon training revolves around running much more than any other cardio. I could be wrong, but surely for the vast majority of cases, people who are dedicated and training in a serious, or somewhat serious fashion for a marathon, will likely lose lbs if lbs are there to lose. Not everyone will lose weight, as some are at the desired or optimal weight, and may even gain a few lbs by nature or by actual wanting to.0 -
I disagree. I reckon if that is what you want to do then you have the perfect combination to do it. Will power to want to lose weight, and really excellent cardio exercise to keep toned/improve fitness and shed lbs. The part that will see you fail is most likely the will power, or lack thereof, as regards your food&liquid ingestion. If you are putting the miles in, then that is more than half the battle.
Would disagree with this.
General consensus is that resistance training has more of a metabolic impact than cardio itself but during and in the subsequent hours.
I do get your point regarding nutrition however and I think distance runners as a whole are obsessive people and do everything to the extreme and as a result a large portion will blur the lines between refueling and gorging. The energy demands also play havoc on the blood sugar levels so often cravings override appropriate nutritional feedback from the body. However it is a learning process and one that people can embrace or manage as best possible and still perform well (I know personally I am improving year by year but still after nearly 20 years of running the diet is far from perfect)This Fat Girl Runs wrote: »What kind of cardio exercise? We were all told, those of us doing cardio/workouts/gym etc to drop a session in favour of a run. I might have misread or am misunderstanding but that would appear to tell me that cardio doesn't go hand in hand with marathon training. Or am I way off?
Food intake is also a very personal thing and depends on the person themselves. I get told by various people that I a) eat too much (even though it's all healthy, non-processed foods) or b) I don't eat enough. Who am I to believe?
And I don't think anyone here lacks willpower! We all have it in spades!
In terms of balancing runs and supplementary training ideally should be doing both however this takes time for your body to adapt to without overloading the body and burning out.
In the absence of this development and in build up to your first marathon the runs will take focus simply because they are the most specific.
If I had a full time athlete I would advocate the following:
6-7 days a week running (or build towards)
2 days general core work
2-3 days hip stability work
2 days Strength and conditioning
1-2 days plyometrics
2 days drills
2-3 days foam rolling and dynamic flexibility
1 weekly sports massage
Yet any of the athletes I coach would rarely see me advocate 75% of this, not because I don't think it is valuable part of training, but because have to balance where they are, their lifestyle and recovery etc to the point that loading too much will result in negative development. Better to do a few things right than everything half a$$ed
In terms of the nutritional advise unfortunately in this country general education is quite poor and there are many pseudo "experts" advocating alot of conflicting idea's to the point that most of the advice given should be taken with a pinch of salt and best to understand the basic concepts of sports nutrition beyond the most current "broscience" or expert who is basing their philosophy on an article they read on a S&C website.0 -
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