Eircom to roll out 1Gb/s FTTH to 66 towns

loyatemu · 11-09-2015 09:41AM

I'm sure eircom's TV offering will be available on FTTH eventually - this is just a soft launch with limited availability.

ElNino · 11-09-2015 10:50AM

I am in Ennis but FTTH doesn't seem to be available at my address yet. To be honest after seeing the pricing I am not at all bothered. I won't upgrade from my 100Mb eVDSL until the prices come down a lot more as my current speed is more than enough for me.

Going from DSL to eVDSL was a no brainer for almost everyone but going from eVDSL to FTTH isn't going to bring any noticeable benefit for 99% of people. The other 1% are probably techies who are work from home or hosting websites or uploading a lot of data. I think that FTTH is going to be a very hard sell for eircom at those prices given that they are competing with their own eVDSL is most cases. I can see some major prices cuts in 6 month's time.

Praetorian · 11-09-2015 11:04AM

When other operators announce prices based on Eircom's good wholesale price I think the picture will change. If Vodafone were to offer at 60 per month I'd sign up tomorrow even with a 150-200 installation cost.

Deagol · 11-09-2015 11:34AM

ElNino wrote: »

I am in Ennis but FTTH doesn't seem to be available at my address yet. To be honest after seeing the pricing I am not at all bothered. I won't upgrade from my 100Mb eVDSL until the prices come down a lot more as my current speed is more than enough for me.

Going from DSL to eVDSL was a no brainer for almost everyone but going from eVDSL to FTTH isn't going to bring any noticeable benefit for 99% of people. The other 1% are probably techies who are work from home or hosting websites or uploading a lot of data. I think that FTTH is going to be a very hard sell for eircom at those prices given that they are competing with their own eVDSL is most cases. I can see some major prices cuts in 6 month's time.

Seems to be only available on one estate in Ennis. I've now tried 80 odd locations and only found one. (Including a location that had VDSL trialed in 2000 as part of the Information Age town).

My main reason for looking forward to FTTH was so I could get the TV offering, as I wasn't willing to lose 15mb off my 70mb connection. But as I've previously stated, I think this is a con job by Eircom. I suspect they are trying to persuade gullible politicians that they deserve the NBP money by telling them they've rolled out FTTH to x towns, I suspect we won't see the numbers of houses available to figures because it will be minimal.

murphaph · 11-09-2015 11:42AM

Deagol wrote: »

But as I've previously stated, I think this is a con job by Eircom. I suspect they are trying to persuade gullible politicians that they deserve the NBP money by telling them they've rolled out FTTH to x towns, I suspect we won't see the numbers of houses available to figures because it will be minimal.

You have previously stated it, several times now. It doesn't mean it's correct. The FTTH roll out has just begun and you're dismissing it as a con job. I mean, words fail me. Give it some time at least before rushing to judgement. It's a huge undertaking.

Deagol · 11-09-2015 11:52AM

murphaph wrote: »

You have previously stated it, several times now. It doesn't mean it's correct. The FTTH roll out has just begun and you're dismissing it as a con job. I mean, words fail me. Give it some time at least before rushing to judgement. It's a huge undertaking.

The problem I have with it is, they did work at the cabinet that serves the area around me and only connected one estate to it. It doesn't make sense to me that they would then come back to that cabinet and do more work to connect other estates?

And I'm afraid when it comes to Eircom, I am extremely cynical as from past experience they are totally incompetent and downright dishonest at times.

Just to add to that feeling, this morning I received in the post a letter from them telling me I'd get a whole €40 discount if I signed up to another 18 month contract! Gives me the distinct impression they are concerned I will move to another company because they have nothing better to offer me.

Anyway, your point is taken and I will not mention it again (at least until someone asks the question)

KOR101 · 11-09-2015 12:11PM

murphaph wrote: »

You have previously stated it, several times now. It doesn't mean it's correct. The FTTH roll out has just begun and you're dismissing it as a con job. I mean, words fail me. Give it some time at least before rushing to judgement. It's a huge undertaking.

True, but it WAS Eircom that raised expectations by talking about availability in 16 towns in August. It does raise question marks about all the projections going around, especially the NBP. At least on pricing, they consistently said it would be a premium product.

damienirel · 11-09-2015 01:31PM

KOR101 wrote: »

True, but it WAS Eircom that raised expectations by talking about availability in 16 towns in August. It does raise question marks about all the projections going around, especially the NBP. At least on pricing, they consistently said it would be a premium product.

they're all waiting for gov. intervention - esb included. until the funds are lodged i'm afraid it's only low hanging fruit any of them are interested in.

KD11 · 11-09-2015 06:18PM

Received another email from eircom saying that the 1000Mb was available at my home (Ennis). Special offer of 67e for first 6 months then I can switch back to a lower speed after that if I want. I had already checked and my home wasnt in one of the estates to get it. Currently waiting on a call back from them. Is it possible you just have to ring and ask for it?

ECO_Mental · 11-09-2015 07:00PM

Disappointed that Vodafone aren't going to resell the Eircom fibre as I have about a year left on my VF contract and is going to cost me to much to break it.

I enquired about the tv bundle yesterday and they were supposed to email me back with a quote (they haven't yet) but the way I was going to work it out was bundle the tv with it and get rid of Sky.

I reckon that I would be able to get the 1000mb eVision with sports, HD and multiroom for what I am paying sky and VF now 150e. I know eVision isn't as good a service as sky but I am willing to give it a go

domeld · 11-09-2015 09:20PM

It looks like KNN start pulling fiber in Gorey

irishgeo · 11-09-2015 09:45PM

ECO_Mental wrote: »

Disappointed that Vodafone aren't going to resell the Eircom fibre as I have about a year left on my VF contract and is going to cost me to much to break it.

I enquired about the tv bundle yesterday and they were supposed to email me back with a quote (they haven't yet) but the way I was going to work it out was bundle the tv with it and get rid of Sky.

I reckon that I would be able to get the 1000mb eVision with sports, HD and multiroom for what I am paying sky and VF now 150e. I know eVision isn't as good a service as sky but I am willing to give it a go

where did you see that

ECO_Mental · 11-09-2015 10:39PM

One of the guys here asked in the talk to Vodafone thread and they confirmed it for now anyway it seems. They are concentrating on their own system with SIRO and the ESB. Can't post the link sorry using a crappy phone atm. But it should be easy to find

PeadarB · 11-09-2015 10:47PM

KD11 wrote: »

Received another email from eircom saying that the 1000Mb was available at my home (Ennis). Special offer of 67e for first 6 months then I can switch back to a lower speed after that if I want. I had already checked and my home wasnt in one of the estates to get it. Currently waiting on a call back from them. Is it possible you just have to ring and ask for it?

Got that too. In essence... from the e-mail -

"Dear Peter
Thank you for your interest in Ireland’s fastest broadband. Great news!
Your home is now ready for Ireland’s fastest broadband.
Get Ireland's fastest ever broadband for €67 for first 6 months that's a saving of €120!

We are so excited about delivering 1,000Mb broadband that we want to share these superior broadband speeds with you. We’d like to give you 1,000Mb for the price of 150Mb for 6 whole months with no catches, no obligations and no penalty if you want to switch back to a lower speed within 6 months.

etc... etc...

This is a limited offer so don’t delay. Sign up before the end of October
to be among the first to experience Ireland’s fastest broadband.

And the footnote... -

* eircom Ultrafast Fibre Broadband products: Usage caps apply on certain products and excess usage charges may be applied. For products with unlimited usage, a fair usage policy applies. For details on eircom fair usage please visit eircom.ie. Promotional prices available to existing eircom customers only until 15/11/15. Discounts shown are based on the total promotional discounts on a selected Broadband product over the 6 month promotional period. After the promotion period the 1000Mb broadband pricing will revert to standard price of €87 per month. This is a bundle price and includes the eircom Talk Anytime Package. The promotion is made available subject to a 18 month contract term being applied to the customer’s broadband service. For the avoidance of doubt, early cease charge will apply where this service is ceased within the minimum contract period. This is for a promotional period only. Downgrading from Ultra fast Fibre (FTTH) to Fibre (FttC) is subject to either a fee of €50 (inc VAT) or restarting the contract. It is not possible to downgrade to Non fibre broadband (NGB). There is no charge for moving from 1000Mb to 300Mb or 150Mb during your 6 month promotional term which commences on your operational service date. There is however a €50 charge from 300Mb to 150Mb. The prices quoted include a monthly Direct Debit discount of €2. See www.eircom.net/termsandconditions/ for full eVision terms and conditions".

And I can't get the bloody thing... yet... Now where is that friggin' digger :mad:

ECO_Mental · 11-09-2015 11:14PM

PeadarB wrote: »

Got that too. In essence... from the e-mail -

"Dear Peter
Thank you for your interest in Ireland’s fastest broadband. Great news!
Your home is now ready for Ireland’s fastest broadband.
Get Ireland's fastest ever broadband for €67 for first 6 months that's a saving of €120!

We are so excited about delivering 1,000Mb broadband that we want to share these superior broadband speeds with you. We’d like to give you 1,000Mb for the price of 150Mb for 6 whole months with no catches, no obligations and no penalty if you want to switch back to a lower speed within 6 months.

etc... etc...

This is a limited offer so don’t delay. Sign up before the end of October
to be among the first to experience Ireland’s fastest broadband.

And the footnote... -

* eircom Ultrafast Fibre Broadband products: Usage caps apply on certain products and excess usage charges may be applied. For products with unlimited usage, a fair usage policy applies. For details on eircom fair usage please visit eircom.ie. Promotional prices available to existing eircom customers only until 15/11/15. Discounts shown are based on the total promotional discounts on a selected Broadband product over the 6 month promotional period. After the promotion period the 1000Mb broadband pricing will revert to standard price of €87 per month. This is a bundle price and includes the eircom Talk Anytime Package. The promotion is made available subject to a 18 month contract term being applied to the customer’s broadband service. For the avoidance of doubt, early cease charge will apply where this service is ceased within the minimum contract period. This is for a promotional period only. Downgrading from Ultra fast Fibre (FTTH) to Fibre (FttC) is subject to either a fee of €50 (inc VAT) or restarting the contract. It is not possible to downgrade to Non fibre broadband (NGB). There is no charge for moving from 1000Mb to 300Mb or 150Mb during your 6 month promotional term which commences on your operational service date. There is however a €50 charge from 300Mb to 150Mb. The prices quoted include a monthly Direct Debit discount of €2. See www.eircom.net/termsandconditions/ for full eVision terms and conditions".

And I can't get the bloody thing... yet... Now where is that friggin' digger :mad:

That's strange because I registered months ago and I can get ultrafast now but I didn't get that email?? Funny they are sending them out to people who can't get it. Thats funny weird not funny ha ha...

damienirel · 12-09-2015 09:40AM

ECO_Mental wrote: »

That's strange because I registered months ago and I can get ultrafast now but I didn't get that email?? Funny they are sending them out to people who can't get it. Thats funny weird not funny ha ha...

Yeah I contacted them to complain about the email before that, as it was totally misleading. They must have just taken me off the list. Annoying moronic promotional rubbish.

kaerobe · 12-09-2015 10:15AM

DerMutt wrote: »

Checked the ultrafast page and it says Carrigaline is live. Tried the line-checker and looks like I'm still stuck on eVDSL

I got the email as above. Tried ordering online... said 25mbs (which is what I have).

Called eircom. Didnt have a clue. Supervisor said call in October when Carrig is going live? Couldnt tell me if my house is going to be eligible

PeadarB · 12-09-2015 10:47AM

kaerobe wrote: »

I got the email as above. Tried ordering online... said 25mbs (which is what I have).

Called eircom. Didnt have a clue. Supervisor said call in October when Carrig is going live? Couldnt tell me if my house is going to be eligible

Same here.The link says 100Mb. I would expect this partial rollout is more of a trial to hone work practices and get up to speed. If some of the eircom techs are actually on training for installs via pole drops next week we can expect a rapid take off over the next couple of weeks. Siro will be breathing down their necks soon.

ShevY · 13-09-2015 08:01PM

In the latest email, where Eircom state that "Your home is now ready for Ireland’s fastest broadband", they also mention, "Our best modem ever for superior WIFI" as being included.

Does anyone know if this is the F2000 or if have another 802.11ac device for this launch?

mass_debater · 13-09-2015 08:08PM

ShevY wrote: »

In the latest email, where Eircom state that "Your home is now ready for Ireland’s fastest broadband", they also mention, "Our best modem ever for superior WIFI" as being included.

Does anyone know if this is the F2000 or if have another 802.11ac device for this launch?

They'll be using the F2000 which is dual band 802.11ac

LFCFan · 14-09-2015 03:00PM

I got the email also saying that FTTH was now available at my house but after doing the line check and also ringing sales, my exchange hasn't been enabled for it yet. Everyone else that got this email, are you currently out of contract? I wonder is this just a ploy by Eircom to tease those out of contract in to waiting a bit longer to get in to another 18 month contract? It says on the site 'Existing customers get a FREE upgrade* to Ultrafast 1000Mb fibre and get Ireland’s fastest broadband direct to your home' *FREE installation offer available to existing customers for a limited time only. This must only be for the first 4 months like with the new customer promotion? It doesn't say how long the offer goes on for???

PeadarB · 14-09-2015 03:15PM

LFCFan wrote: »

I got the email also saying that FTTH was now available at my house but after doing the line check and also ringing sales, my exchange hasn't been enabled for it yet. Everyone else that got this email, are you currently out of contract? I wonder is this just a ploy by Eircom to tease those out of contract in to waiting a bit longer to get in to another 18 month contract? It says on the site 'Existing customers get a FREE upgrade* to Ultrafast 1000Mb fibre and get Ireland’s fastest broadband direct to your home' *FREE installation offer available to existing customers for a limited time only. This must only be for the first 4 months like with the new customer promotion? It doesn't say how long the offer goes on for???

I'm out of contract with eircom now. It''ll be a case of first come first served.

ShevY · 14-09-2015 04:56PM

I'm within contract and still got the email. Rang and they said the exchange is enabled (Douglas), but not my line yet. Haven't seen any fibre being pulled in the estate either. I hate these teasing emails!

rob808 · 14-09-2015 08:38PM

ShevY wrote: »

I'm within contract and still got the email. Rang and they said the exchange is enabled (Douglas), but not my line yet. Haven't seen any fibre being pulled in the estate either. I hate these teasing emails!

They just send them to advertise and get people interested in there product but kinda annoying you can't even get it yet

.It like me waiting for NBP to start if it ever does

KeRbDoG · 15-09-2015 11:55AM

LFCFan wrote: »

I got the email also saying that FTTH was now available at my house but after doing the line check and also ringing sales, my exchange hasn't been enabled for it yet...

That highlights that their sales reps need additional training on FTTH. It has nothing to do with your existing copper/exchange.

Nollog · 15-09-2015 01:00PM

KeRbDoG wrote: »

That highlights that their sales reps need additional training on FTTH. It has nothing to do with your existing copper/exchange.

Over-use of the word "fibre" is mainly to blame.

davork · 15-09-2015 05:42PM

Right I have just ordered (I'm in Swords) - install is scheduled for October 14th. This year

Hopefully we'll know more about whether they provide a battery (like Verizon do with their FIOS offering in the US) before then :P

sirione · 15-09-2015 05:43PM

i got an email from eircom today saying my house was ready for the new ultrafast broadband, so i went on to eircom chat and the guy said it was a mistake, loads of people got that email he said. what the f**k is going on with eircom? im in drogheda by the way, do they have to run new cables to your house for this?

ECO_Mental · 15-09-2015 05:46PM

davork wrote: »

Right I have just ordered (I'm in Swords) - install is scheduled for October 14th. This year

Hopefully we'll know more about whether they provide a battery (like Verizon do with their FIOS offering in the US) before then :P

What are you going for 150 300 or the big kahuna....

JohnC. · 15-09-2015 05:59PM

I got an e-mail from them saying it isn't available in my area yet, but I wasn't expecting it to be. It did however tell me they can offer me efibre, which isn't true. The exchange is on their map to be upgraded in Q1 next year. They want to offer everyone something which isn't available.

Eircom to roll out 1Gb/s FTTH to 66 towns

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