Sean O'Rourke Today Show

foxtrot101 wrote: »

Lets not get hysterical now.

Ireland has accepted fewer refugees than any other EU country, has one of the highest refusal rates. Plus they are not migrants in this case, they are refugees. There is a difference.

And lets not be patronising either.
IMO it is perfectly rational and reasonable to expect that the views/opinions of those who will be directly impacted by any decision be taken into account.
It is disrespecting, ignoring & talking down to communities that generates resentments and breeds future animosity which will benefit nobody.

foxtrot101 wrote: »

And how do you suggest we do that? Have a referendum? Listen to Liveline?

Well perhaps a little more diversity than the same "dinner party" talking heads we listen to ad nauseam.
There are people with a different point of view & perfectly legitimate concerns (even if it's not PC to say so) and I wouldn't have thought it beyond the wit of RTE or other broadcast researchers to get some diversity of opinion into the discussion.

foxtrot101 wrote: »

They did let that caller on, the one you agreed with above.

One caller ... you make my point for me :rolleyes:

189 previous convictions and cant remember how many times hes been in prison. Time to review the judical system and build more prisons

One mother on her son who took an Iron bar to a lad in a car: Ah sure they were wild in trouble a lot growing up. We were stigmatized. It was only young lads growing up on the street. They have calmed down a lot. (clearly not enough to stop carrying around Iron bars)

Another lad: "I'll go down to the prison for the day and have me dinner". "So Prison doesn't bother you" "Sure I've been in prison a lot. I did 5 years when I was 16 for shooting a fella".



It's hard to rationalize that sort of casual attitude to violence.

Loved the reply by Sean to the idiot who suggested that the pope should put refugees up in the Cistine Chapel.
Pure Galway cynicism, all he needed was a radio version of RollEyes.

I think the Dr and psychotherapist - I think its Dr Harry Barry and Enda Murphy - that Sean has on regularly are fantastic. It is one of the most interesting piece of radio in my opinion. The speak such sense - proper public service broadcasting if you ask me.

BarryD wrote: »

Ah, nice to hear Shane Ross being brought to book for once!!

He's as good a waffler as any of them ...
I have repeatedly referred to the so-called "audited" reports - why are businesses paying huge fees for total nonsense? The auditors response is "we can only go on what the company tell us" so what exactly is the point of audited reports?
I was of the opinion they were paid exorbitant fees because they actually checked & verified the figures (silly me).
In my defence I'm only an ordinary Joe, you would have expected that Shane Ross as a stockbroker & very much an insider to know better that to take these works of fiction as fact. I must be incredibly innocent ... :rolleyes:

Oh that insufferable waffler john drenan is back on the airwaves

BarryD wrote: »

Shane Ross usually gets a fairly easy ride in the media, in his role of shining knight to the rescue of the beleaguered citizens of Ireland. But I reckon if you pasted all the various positions he's taken over the years on the whole gamut of topics and put them in a book, you'd be baffled as to what he actually stands for.

He stands for election.

Perpetual outrage is his stock-in-trade.

touts wrote: »

I was a bit surprised that he got 20 min to flog his book which seemed to be all about how the government is bad and Renua will be better. I was even more surprised when they said it was €16.99. He can **** off if he think's I'm paying for the Renua manifesto that I won't read even when they shove it through my letterbox for free in a couple of months.

Oh I just love that - even John couldn't better that

BarryD wrote: »

There's a curious observation. The good people of Ballymore managed to build a fine church right in the thick of the Great Famine whilst poorer people suffered greatly throughout the countryside. An interesting reflection on the received wisdom that starvation was all down to an indifferent British government. As always, things are more complicated.

It has often amazed me the number of elaborate RC churches built at the height of the Famine.
Not very subtle blackmailing of a starving people

P. Breathnach wrote: »

The great surge in church building happened in the decade after the famine (when, admittedly, the bulk of the ordinary population were living in very poor circumstances).

It is often attributed to the people turning to religion at that time - a bit of "you can't put your faith in the natural world, or in your fellow-man, so let's try God".

True but a not insignificant number were built between 1845 - 48, including my local parish church. Even as a child I often pondered how many of my family went to bed hungry to appease the parsimonious demands of the clergy

Is this lady for real? Comparing the refugee cricis with people coming for a rugby match ... I'm head a lot of nonsence of late but that surely tops all :mad: