BA fire in Las Vegas

Preset No.3 · 09-09-2015 01:10AM #1

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/08/us/las-vegas-british-airways-fire/index.html

ceadaoin. · 09-09-2015 01:29AM

Was just watching this, looks like one of the engines caught fire. Luckily they were able to abort the takeoff and everyone got off the plane safely.

The Backwards Man · 09-09-2015 01:36AM

That flight seems to have more than it's fair share of technical problems, this time last year one had to turn back over Scotland due to a fire too I seem to recall.

ceadaoin. · 09-09-2015 01:46AM

Not just that route, the BA flight from Vegas to Heathrow seems to be pretty unlucky too. Bomb threat in July meant it had to divert to Montreal (my husband was on this flight, scary experience) and another was diverted to Shannon in june due to a death onboard. There was a fire in the toilets en route another time too. I know they aren't technical issues but it's cursed I tell ya! Think I'll stick to Virgin Atlantic next time I go home :eek:

The Backwards Man · 09-09-2015 01:53AM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Not just that route, the BA flight from Vegas to Heathrow seems to be pretty unlucky too. Bomb threat in July meant it had to divert to Montreal (my husband was on this flight, scary experience) and another was diverted to Shannon in june due to a death onboard. There was a fire in the toilets en route another time too. I know they aren't technical issues but it's cursed I tell ya! Think I'll stick to Virgin Atlantic next time I go home :eek:

I'm going to Vegas on the Heathrow route this year, was always Gatwick before. Might look into getting a coal boat instead!

Terrontress · 09-09-2015 06:40AM

There are recordings of ground control and the 777 on The Guardian. The straightforwardness and professionalism is fantastic to listen to. The controller is directing other traffic, switching to advising of Heavy Fire Services being on their way, then back to other ground control.

Nichard Dixon · 09-09-2015 06:47AM

What's the protocol in this case. Everyone pile out via every available chute or only on the side away from the fire?

vektarman · 09-09-2015 06:54AM

One noticeable thing was the number of evacuated passengers on the Tarmac that had their onboard luggage with them, how were they allowed down the chutes with their wheelie cases, wouldn't carrying your luggage through the cabin cause an obstruction during an evacuation?

eatmyshorts · 09-09-2015 06:55AM

Nichard Dixon wrote: »

What's the protocol in this case. Everyone pile out via every available chute or only on the side away from the fire?

It may vary between individual company SOP's. For us, the cabin crew at the door will make an assessment if it is usuable or not.

Locker10a · 09-09-2015 06:58AM

Nichard Dixon wrote: »

What's the protocol in this case. Everyone pile out via every available chute or only on the side away from the fire?

Cabin crew are trained to assess and makes decisions on what exits to open in an evacuation, they will decide what's safe to open and evacuate as many people as possible from their respective doors in as short a time as is possible

Locker10a · 09-09-2015 07:01AM

vektarman wrote: »

One noticeable thing was the number of evacuated passengers on the Tarmac that had their onboard luggage with them, how were they allowed down the chutes with their wheelie cases, wouldn't carrying your luggage through the cabin cause an obstruction during an evacuation?

It would cause a huge obstruction and a broken zip etc. could rip or burst the inflatable slide.... It's impossible to police this during an evacuation, there simple is not time or space to stop people with bags...... It's sheer ignorance on the part of passengers

Nichard Dixon · 09-09-2015 07:09AM

Is there a case for electronic locking of luggage storage on planes, both for emergencies and plonkers getting up while taxiing etc?

arubex · 09-09-2015 07:37AM

Locker10a wrote: »

It's sheer ignorance on the part of passengers

It is a nuisance and affects evacuation, but I understand why passengers do it.

They are facing the prospect of being dumped back into a foreign country for a stay of interderminate length, with only what they have in their pockets to identify themselves to authorities, communicate with family and buy basic provisions.

After 21 days they can submit a claim for lost baggage and hope that they can find receipts for everything that was in their luggage, plus for the luggage itself.

Or - just grab the backpack.

eatmyshorts · 09-09-2015 07:45AM

arubex wrote: »

It is a nuisance and affects evacuation, but I understand why passengers do it.

They are facing the prospect of being dumped back into a foreign country for a stay of interderminate length, with only what they have in their pockets to identify themselves to authorities, communicate with family and buy basic provisions.

After 21 days they can submit a claim for lost baggage and hope that they can find receipts for everything that was in their luggage, plus for the luggage itself.

Or - just grab the backpack.

That's why I always have my shoes on and wallet, phone and passport in my pockets for take off and landing.
A bit of easy preparation goes a long way.

eatmyshorts · 09-09-2015 07:47AM

L1011 · 09-09-2015 08:12AM

17 years old, damaged fuselage as well as the engine/wing... I don't think we'll be seeing this fly again unfortunately

BZ · 09-09-2015 08:17AM

L1011 wrote: »

17 years old, damaged fuselage as well as the engine/wing... I don't think we'll be seeing this fly again unfortunately

Have to agree the damage is substantial can't see this bird back in the air again.

09-09-2015 08:17AM

Am sure there is some one in BA about to ring the insurance claim hotline this morning. Are airplanes insured like cars?

sebcity · 09-09-2015 08:18AM

I'm flying to the States on Friday.
Due to get this BA2276 flight home next Saturday

09-09-2015 08:20AM

arubex wrote: »

It is a nuisance and affects evacuation, but I understand why passengers do it.

They are facing the prospect of being dumped back into a foreign country for a stay of interderminate length, with only what they have in their pockets to identify themselves to authorities, communicate with family and buy basic provisions.

After 21 days they can submit a claim for lost baggage and hope that they can find receipts for everything that was in their luggage, plus for the luggage itself.

Or - just grab the backpack.

I'm sorry what !! You understand why they do it ! The plane is on fire and it's OKAY to stop and hold up an EMERGENCY EVACUATION while they are grabbing their cabin bags waddle down an aisle slowly with them just so they aren't SLIGHTLY inconvienced because they won't have a book or iPad for a few days.

There NEVER is any justifiable reason to STOP in an emergency, they do it in front of me I'm barging them out of the way. Their convenience is not worth someone else's life.

It's not a nuisance it's ignorance and potentially life endangering.

cml387 · 09-09-2015 08:24AM

Hearing the tape this morning, was one of the flight crew from Dublin perchance?

Pat Dunne · 09-09-2015 08:24AM

sebcity wrote: »

I'm flying to the States on Friday.
Due to get this BA2276 flight home next Saturday

Why the sad face, there will be a BA flight waiting for you at the gate next Saturday, regardless.

eatmyshorts · 09-09-2015 08:26AM

sebcity wrote: »

I'm flying to the States on Friday.
Due to get this BA2276 flight home next Saturday

And??...

cml387 · 09-09-2015 08:28AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm sorry what !! You understand why they do it ! The plane is on fire and it's OKAY to stop and hold up an EMERGENCY EVACUATION while they are grabbing their cabin bags waddle down an aisle slowly with them just so they aren't SLIGHTLY inconvienced because they won't have a book or iPad for a few days.

There NEVER is any justifiable reason to STOP in an emergency, they do it in front of me I'm barging them out of the way. Their convenience is not worth someone else's life.

It's not a nuisance it's ignorance and potentially life endangering.

I read a piece this morning from a Guardian journalist who was on the plane who commented on this. His point was that in a panic people do not necessarily think straight. You don't know how you'd respond until it happens. Easy sitting behind a keyboard to imagine what you'd do.

vicwatson · 09-09-2015 08:28AM

sebcity wrote: »

I'm flying to the States on Friday.
Due to get this BA2276 flight home next Saturday

Well you wont be now

:pac:

L1011 · 09-09-2015 08:44AM

vicwatson wrote: »

Well you wont be now :pac:

Itll be a hifly/titan craft even if BA dont find slack in the schedules to use one of their own

Locker10a · 09-09-2015 08:45AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm sorry what !! You understand why they do it ! The plane is on fire and it's OKAY to stop and hold up an EMERGENCY EVACUATION while they are grabbing their cabin bags waddle down an aisle slowly with them just so they aren't SLIGHTLY inconvienced because they won't have a book or iPad for a few days.

There NEVER is any justifiable reason to STOP in an emergency, they do it in front of me I'm barging them out of the way. Their convenience is not worth someone else's life.

It's not a nuisance it's ignorance and potentially life endangering.

I'm with you on this , if I'm ever in a situation like this flight and another passenger blocks me or others by retrieving their luggage they will receive from me a kick of the greatest force I can fathom.

Long Time Lurker · 09-09-2015 08:51AM

http://avherald.com/h?article=48c10434&opt=0

eatmyshorts · 09-09-2015 08:54AM

irishgeo · 09-09-2015 08:57AM

Long Time Lurker wrote: »

http://avherald.com/h?article=48c10434&opt=0

One reports says they opened one of the rear doors on the fire side of the plane and smoke started coming in so everyone had to go out the front.

Why open the door in the first place. Smoke is a bigger killer than fire.

flanzer · 09-09-2015 08:57AM

sebcity wrote: »

I'm flying to the States on Friday.
Due to get this BA2276 flight home next Saturday

Relax, you're more likely to be killed in the car on your way to the airport

BA fire in Las Vegas

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