Farmers Threaten To Take Law Into Their Own Hands. What Can Be Done?

Notavirus.exe · 07-09-2015 07:11PM

I was in the car driving on a road when I saw a Transit van with a traveler sitting in the driver seat on the right hand side of the road directly across from a house on the left. The next thing I saw was another traveler jumping over the garden wall with a football in his hand.

I mean, when you have to steal a FOOTBALL, come on, that's just sad.

For Forks Sake · 07-09-2015 07:15PM

dandyelevan wrote: »

We could have a Traveller Police Force. The USA has the Tribal Police for Indian Reservations.

Only for Pavee Point would put a stop to it, you'd have the makings of one hell of a TV show there.....

Overheal · 07-09-2015 07:19PM

howamidifferent wrote: »

Since they claim to be an ethnic minority preserving their culture we should add everyone of them to a DNA database

How does that follow?

Notavirus.exe · 07-09-2015 07:25PM

josephryan1989 wrote: »

What can be done?

Keep all tools in the house. Rig a garden shed to explode when opened.

I can only describe these people as sick and dirty animals if they think that they have the right to enter someone's property and take what they want as if there was a big "Everything's Free!" sign out on the road.

:mad: :mad: :mad:

Galwayguy35 · 07-09-2015 07:47PM

6 houses around here were burgled in one night recently, they even went into one house while the family were asleep and one of the kids woke up to find 2 guys in the sitting room.

Another old man was tied up and robbed twice in the same week, now he's afraid to go to sleep at night.

I don't blame the Gardai, the local stations have all been closed and by the time they get here sure the boyos are long gone.

Nally had the right attitude, give them a bit of lead see how they like it.

questionmark? · 07-09-2015 08:23PM

Ah hold on lads. You can't be saying that travellers are involved in a lot of rural crime. It may be true but it's not PC. You know it's been part of their culture for generations to steal heating oil and TV for the last 1000 years.

Notavirus.exe · 07-09-2015 08:28PM

questionmark? wrote: »

Ah hold on lads. You can't be saying that travellers are involved in a lot of rural crime. It may be true but it's not PC. You know it's been part of their culture for generations to steal heating oil and TV for the last 1000 years.

We had TV 1000 years ago?

questionmark? · 07-09-2015 08:31PM

Notavirus.exe wrote: »

We had TV 1000 years ago?

Yes.

JJJJNR · 07-09-2015 11:13PM

I'm sure it would be possible to rent a couple of military spec drones and fly them around high risk area's doing domestic surveillance, they can work over huge areas, and very quickly identify ground movement especially at night.

demanufactured · 07-09-2015 11:25PM

More Paidric Nally's needed.

07-09-2015 11:32PM

Using guns is certainly not the answer to the theft of tools or trailers.

They may be able to reduce the fear of assaults. Which is a far more serious matter.

07-09-2015 11:34PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Using guns is certainly not the answer to the theft of tools or trailers.

A 4x4 is the answer maybe?

frostyjacks · 07-09-2015 11:37PM

Better to have a gun and not need it, than need one and not have it.

pablo128 · 07-09-2015 11:41PM

I'd love to catch one of the b@stards and tie him up on a kitchen chair and break his jaw.

Those cnuts wouldn't think twice about doing it to an elderly woman.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 07-09-2015 11:41PM

Notavirus.exe wrote: »

We had TV 1000 years ago?

RTE are still showing original shows from
Back then.

Trabejo · 07-09-2015 11:47PM

JJJJNR wrote: »

I'm sure it would be possible to rent a couple of military spec drones and fly them around high risk area's doing domestic surveillance, they can work over huge areas, and very quickly identify ground movement especially at night.

This isn't Baghdad or Aleepo. High spec military drones for **** sake? Just have a police car drive around a high risk area to be able to rapidly respond. Putting high spec drones up in the air is possibly the stupidest idea I have heard in a long time.

Simon2015 · 07-09-2015 11:48PM

demanufactured wrote: »

More Paidric Nally's needed.

The next Garda Commissioner should be Paidric Nally:pac:

freshpopcorn · 08-09-2015 12:02AM

Farmers have being saying this with years.
Even if their was a Gardai within one Km of the house you'd still get people saying this.
One of the biggest problems that these farmers would face in my opinion would be if they shot dead a member of these gangs. They and their family would be driven insane by the gang for the rest of their lives.

My name is URL · 08-09-2015 12:25AM

Rural people under siege

Only Williams could come out with such crap and avoid the ridicule.

Unless you're pretty minted, you don't have the option to turn your home into Fort Knox. Doesn't matter how many Gardai there are.. they can't be everywhere at once.

You're at less risk of being a victim of crime in Ballyhaunis than you are in Balbriggan, but people would flip their **** at the idea of townies amassing and demanding guns, or threatening to take the law into their own hands.

Gatling · 08-09-2015 12:28AM

Drone strikes ,
Bring in drone strikes

end of the road · 08-09-2015 01:42AM

josephryan1989 wrote: »

A report by Paul Williams in today's Irish Independent describes how swathes of rural Ireland are at the mercy of roving bands of burglars alleged by Williams and the farmers he interviewed as members of the travelling community. Tools, equipment, trailers, fuel and a range of other items have been stolen from properties and allegedly turn up at stalls and car boot sales.

Losing faith in the Gardaí who have little or no presence in rural localities since the closure or downgrading of rural stations, local farmers are claiming they are sleeping with shotguns and are threatening to take the law into their own hands and shoot intruders if the Gardaí won't help them.

What can be done?

anyone who takes the law into their own hands can't complain about others breaking the law. so these farmers can't complain about their stuff being stolen once they take the law into their own hands, they will have effectively condoned and legitimized the actions. what does need to happen is more funding and more gardai

end of the road · 08-09-2015 01:46AM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

they should be armed to the teeth and given immunity from prosecution

to dangerous.

Ruu · 08-09-2015 01:48AM

Give the farmers cool nicknames.

end of the road · 08-09-2015 01:54AM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

6 houses around here were burgled in one night recently, they even went into one house while the family were asleep and one of the kids woke up to find 2 guys in the sitting room.

Another old man was tied up and robbed twice in the same week, now he's afraid to go to sleep at night.

I don't blame the Gardai, the local stations have all been closed and by the time they get here sure the boyos are long gone.

Nally had the right attitude, give them a bit of lead see how they like it.

not at all. this type of thing should not be encouraged.

end of the road · 08-09-2015 01:55AM

questionmark? wrote: »

Ah hold on lads. You can't be saying that travellers are involved in a lot of rural crime. It may be true but it's not PC.

only if you buy into so called pc. i and many others don't

demanufactured wrote: »

More Paidric Nally's needed.

no thanks

gctest50 · 08-09-2015 02:00AM

Simon2015 wrote: »

The next Garda Commissioner should be Paidric Nally:pac:

Saint Paidric - got rid of the frog out of ireland

mud · 08-09-2015 02:01AM

A man died in Co. Limerick the week before last. He came home to find his house being ransacked and the shock killed him. Heart attack and gone just like that. Two of the three criminals were caught but that won't bring that man back. It's disgraceful.

08-09-2015 06:53AM

Incidentally, a lot of people here think it's exclusively travellers.

Course a lot of these crimes are carried out by people from poor urban areas roaming the countryside.

Though some people don't like that said, they insist it's only travellers so then they can move to the "and they should be shot" part.

VinLieger · 08-09-2015 07:05AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Incidentally, a lot of people here think it's exclusively travellers.

Course a lot of these crimes are carried out by people from poor urban areas roaming the countryside.

Though some people don't like that said, they insist it's only travellers so then they can move to the "and they should be shot" part.

In fairness it doesn't matter if they are traveller's or not, scum that behaves like this should just be shot no matter where they are from.

Arbiter of Good Taste · 08-09-2015 07:08AM

end of the road wrote: »

anyone who takes the law into their own hands can't complain about others breaking the law. so these farmers can't complain about their stuff being stolen once they take the law into their own hands, they will have effectively condoned and legitimized the actions. what does need to happen is more funding and more gardai

Are you serious? No one should have the right to defend themselves or their property as that would legitimise the criminals?

Farmers Threaten To Take Law Into Their Own Hands. What Can Be Done?

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