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Dairy Chit Chat- Please read Mod note in post #1

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  • #812
    Milked out
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Joined up last yrs autumn born calves and spring maiden.
    V hard to pick them out from spring maidens there so big.
    Making me wonder could they have gone incalf :rolleyes:

    Had u a bull calve with them for any bit?


  • #813
    browned
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    Had a discussion group visit last week and one of the farmers suggested buying in repl's instead of rearing them. Dismissed the idea at the time but can see the logic of it. Have only the one block of land so heifers are taking up potential cow ground. Nic rates are more often than not around the 5-7% on a 90 cow herd so numbers are too small to contract rear them. Think it would be easy to source 10-15 from the one herd on a continuous basis. Are any other posters not selling surplus stock doing something like this or thought about it?


  • #814
    Greengrass1
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    Milked out wrote: »
    Had u a bull calve with them for any bit?

    None just saying there so well grown could I have served them to calve this soring and kept meal to them all yr would I get them bug enough calving down at 18 mths or would u get in trouble with dept


  • #815
    keep going
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    browned wrote: »
    Had a discussion group visit last week and one of the farmers suggested buying in repl's instead of rearing them. Dismissed the idea at the time but can see the logic of it. Have only the one block of land so heifers are taking up potential cow ground. Nic rates are more often than not around the 5-7% on a 90 cow herd so numbers are too small to contract rear them. Think it would be easy to source 10-15 from the one herd on a continuous basis. Are any other posters not selling surplus stock doing something like this or thought about it?

    It makes perfect sense to buy in your replacements ready to go but try and find some willing to sell their early and best potential replacements , now theres a trick


  • #816
    Timmaay
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    keep going wrote: »
    It makes perfect sense to buy in your replacements ready to go but try and find some willing to sell their early and best potential replacements , now theres a trick

    Could head down that road here also, but would personally prefer to keep control of myown heifers, It's an interesting part of dairying anyways, breeding the best possible replacements from your best cows, That has to be worth a decent few quid every year in improved solids/fertility etc, and the huge question is can you get a similar lift just buying in?

    As was said the biggest limitation with contract rearing is when you only have a small replacement numbers. What might work as an alternative to trying to source replacements from the one dairy farm (and risk getting his seconds), why not approach him about contract rearing your heifers with his group? This would be very little extra work for him (they would be run with his own group of replacements), it would provide him a steady income also, it would suit a dairy farmer who has a large enough outside block and already limited on his own milking block.


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  • #817
    browned
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    keep going wrote: »
    It makes perfect sense to buy in your replacements ready to go but try and find some willing to sell their early and best potential replacements , now theres a trick

    That's be the main reason why I was dismissive of it but I would calve from 10th of feb onwards while most would start on 24th of jan, more so now with quotas gone so in a way I'd be taking the later heifers. Just looking through the list of top 200 ebi herd and there's a good few new entrants on there as a result of buying surplus heifers


  • #818
    Greengrass1
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    http://www.donedeal.ie/view/10343217

    Who was doing this in spring except with cold milk?


  • #819
    jaymla627
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    browned wrote: »
    That's be the main reason why I was dismissive of it but I would calve from 10th of feb onwards while most would start on 24th of jan, more so now with quotas gone so in a way I'd be taking the later heifers. Just looking through the list of top 200 ebi herd and there's a good few new entrants on there as a result of buying surplus heifers

    I wouldnt be using the top 200 ebi list as a barometer for sourcing top class dairy heifers, any dairy farmer can get high up on that list by just using the highest possible genomic dairy bulls every year it sure as hell dosent mean he will have a good herd of cows....


  • #820
    browned
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    jaymla627 wrote: »
    I wouldnt be using the top 200 ebi list as a barometer for sourcing top class dairy heifers, any dairy farmer can get high up on that list by just using the highest possible genomic dairy bulls every year it sure as hell dosent mean he will have a good herd of cows....

    Mearly saying that high ebi heifer are being sold and using a new entrant on the top 200 list to show that.


  • #821
    Greengrass1
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    http://www.donedeal.ie/view/10275081 Look at the state of them for feb born calves. Pure neglect.


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  • #822
    Bullocks
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    http://www.donedeal.ie/view/10275081 Look at the state of them for feb born calves. Pure neglect.

    A bit of TLC for the winter will smarten them up but jaysus I wouldn't advertise stock like that until they had a dose and a bag of nuts inside them . If I got them for €130 I would chance them


  • #823
    Greengrass1
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    Bullocks wrote: »
    A bit of TLC for the winter will smarten them up but jaysus I wouldn't advertise stock like that until they had a dose and a bag of nuts inside them . If I got them for €130 I would chance them

    Your right about them coming right but I too wouldn't advertise till I got them right.

    We had a jex heifer like that last yr after she got an awful dose of worms. Finest if a heifer now and incalf too


  • #824
    Sacrolyte
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    http://www.donedeal.ie/view/10275081 Look at the state of them for feb born calves. Pure neglect.

    Are they long calved?


  • #825
    Mehaffey1
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    Sacrolyte wrote: »
    Are they long calved?

    Coming on 7 months old. They are in a right state for sure even worse than our dairy calves which were, in my opinion, a disgrace


  • #826
    Greengrass1
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    Going through latest milk recording this morning.
    One cow has a fat of 2.9 :eek: where alot 4.5 some even up as far as 5.5
    Even looking at her milk when you strip her out its like water.
    Not a massive yielder either at 6500 l


  • #827
    WheatenBriar
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    Glanbia plc spin out shares arrived in the post this morning


  • #828
    Greengrass1
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    WheatenBriar wrote: »
    Glanbia plc spin out shares arrived in the post this morning

    Share price after dropping in last few wks.
    Was around 19e a few wks ago iirc.

    Anyone think it'll rise with the spin out?


  • #829
    WheatenBriar
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Share price after dropping in last few wks.
    Was around 19e a few wks ago iirc.

    Anyone think it'll rise with the spin out?

    Its dropped because all shares dropped due to China
    Glanbia are particularly affected
    Yes they are a hold,theres another 7 or 8 euro's in them next year when china and the markets improve,longer term,they are a definite hold, but even in the short term,markets are always depressed in low summer trade volume,so that alone means a rise is likely from October onwards if you get me?


  • #830
    stanflt
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    jaymla627 wrote: »
    I wouldnt be using the top 200 ebi list as a barometer for sourcing top class dairy heifers, any dairy farmer can get high up on that list by just using the highest possible genomic dairy bulls every year it sure as hell dosent mean he will have a good herd of cows....


    Speak for yourself!!!


  • #831
    Greengrass1
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    http://www.donedeal.ie/view/8819916

    Wonder will this take off


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  • #832
    Timmaay
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    http://www.donedeal.ie/view/8819916

    Wonder will this take off

    Go call up and see the price of it, per kg of DM. But I'd be amazed if it works out any way competitive with transport etc.


  • #833
    whelan2
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    latest results 3.74pr 4.27 bf:) cows on good after grass, never had pr as high here


  • #834
    visatorro
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    3.70 prot 4.02 fat. cows on about 14 litres, 3 kilo of 16% meal. nippling a bale of hay. feck all grass. that's including winter milkers. cows wouldn't be that milky but I'm delighted with solids. I remember records coming back and the herd averaged less than 3 prot.


  • #835
    mahoney_j
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    3.84 p 4.22 fat 23.7 Ltrs on 3.2 kg 18% nut .like most of rest of ye solids exceptional for time of year .good buffer to low milk price


  • #836
    Milked out
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    visatorro wrote: »
    3.70 prot 4.02 fat. cows on about 14 litres, 3 kilo of 16% meal. nippling a bale of hay. feck all grass. that's including winter milkers. cows wouldn't be that milky but I'm delighted with solids. I remember records coming back and the herd averaged less than 3 prot.

    Good solids esp when you are tight on grass Its slow but improving away the herd bit by bit will be the most rewarding part. In dairygold milk statement it gives the top and bottom 10% in solids and price and generally here in July, Aug, sep we'd have been just inside the top 10% with solids mainly due to autumn calvers being at end of lactation but in last few years we've been further away and our solids have improved so it just shows the improvement on most spring herds the last few years.


  • #837
    Milked out
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    3.8p and 4.27 bf here at 17L with no meal as trying to get thru after grass on heavy ground before any rain comes. Will introduce again at weekend. All autumn calvers dried off first one due the second week of Oct. May dry a few more culls have 10 dried so will sell in a Cople of weeks


  • #838
    Greengrass1
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    Found this on glanbia connect tonight. Great job.
    No carry overs last 2 yrs so % have dropped but alot more yield.
    3.95p 4.72 bf 18l all autumn calvers dried off. Yesterday's reults


  • #839
    visatorro
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    anyone milking once a day?


  • #840
    Mulumpy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 817 ✭✭✭Mulumpy


    3.81p 4.38f 22lts on 2kg of 16% nut


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  • #841
    mf240
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    3.61 prot . 3.8 fat. 22.5 litres 3 kgs 16% nuts.


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