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whelan2

This might be a stupid question but in the bord bia dairy inspection, do they look at the cows?

frazzledhome

whelan2 wrote: »

This might be a stupid question but in the bord bia dairy inspection, do they look at the cows?

Lol, they didn't here now that you ask

Milked out

whelan2 wrote: »

This might be a stupid question but in the bord bia dairy inspection, do they look at the cows?

Our fella had a look at a few cattle that were in the shed alright only checking for tags

Brown Podzol

whelan2 wrote: »

This might be a stupid question but in the bord bia dairy inspection, do they look at the cows?

Walked through the cows here looking for docked tails and missing tags. But maybe he just wanted an excuse to look at my beautiful cows.:P

whelan2

thanks, cows are far way at the minute and was wondering should i keep them close by

whelan2

another set of yad twins there now, bull and heifer, both alive, heifer is touch and go

johnny122

mahoney_j wrote: »

Nothing wrong with that Tim dairy master is a huge Irish based success story ,still wouldn't touch one of their flimsy plastic laden parlours though!!

Afraid mahony there is more plastic in other parlours compared to dairymaster , your really showing your biased opinion in your posts.

mahoney_j

johnny122 wrote: »

Afraid mahony there is more plastic in other parlours compared to dairymaster , your really showing your biased opinion in your posts.

I've seen milked in and talked to various different people in dairy master de leval ,gasgoine ,Pearson full wood and westfalia parlours over 5 months and after that nothing as regards build quality ,functionality and material quality etc nothing would touch a Gea or fullwood on the spec I was looking for .dairmaster opinions are my own and what I picked up from lads that are and have milked in them .plastic couplings ,joiners etc that don't stand up to time or 80 degree washes .notorious to get a price off and ride u for parts and service .cheap parlour day 1 and that's it.believe me if u want if not don't make any odds to me if u milk with bucket and stool .also says a lot that they are still sticking with 4x0 pulsation rather than 2x2 which is now industry norm with everyone else

johnny122

mahoney_j wrote: »

I've seen milked in and talked to various different people in dairy master de leval ,gasgoine ,Pearson full wood and westfalia parlours over 5 months and after that nothing as regards build quality ,functionality and material quality etc nothing would touch a Gea or fullwood on the spec I was looking for .dairmaster opinions are my own and what I picked up from lads that are and have milked in them .plastic couplings ,joiners etc that don't stand up to time or 80 degree washes .notorious to get a price off and ride u for parts and service .cheap parlour day 1 and that's it.believe me if u want if not don't make any odds to me if u milk with bucket and stool .also says a lot that they are still sticking with 4x0 pulsation rather than 2x2 which is now industry norm with everyone else

I have one and neighbour has a new one and I can't see any plastic couplings in either of them? In fact their couplings are pharmaceutical style stainless steel flanged ends, all stainless vacuum Yes they are 4x0 but have to say we are both very happy so far with it scc, I personally talked to lots of farmers before investing and making my mind up to see had they any scc issues, in my mind anyway it's the best way to milk cows and proven with their customers, nothing at all wrong with other makes but please don't go harping on about how good gea ,fullwood are and how bad dairymaster because it is not true

Timmaay

johnny122 wrote: »

I have one and neighbour has a new one and I can't see any plastic couplings in either of them? In fact their couplings are pharmaceutical style stainless steel flanged ends, all stainless vacuum Yes they are 4x0 but have to say we are both very happy so far with it scc, I personally talked to lots of farmers before investing and making my mind up to see had they any scc issues, in my mind anyway it's the best way to milk cows and proven with their customers, nothing at all wrong with other makes but please don't go harping on about how good gea ,fullwood are and how bad dairymaster because it is not true

I'd agree here, the DM I nearly got was most certainly better quality than the Gascoigne I did get, less plastic, more Stainless, better joints etc on the DM. But at a 4k premium, and slightly lower spec, I decided the Gascoigne would be good enough, alongside that the pushy DM salemans approach turned me off them.

johnny122

Timmaay wrote: »

I'd agree here, the DM I nearly got was most certainly better quality than the Gascoigne I did get, less plastic, more Stainless, better joints etc on the DM. But at a 4k premium, and slightly lower spec, I decided the Gascoigne would be good enough, alongside that the pushy DM salemans approach turned me off them.

Glad to hear some support on this thanks Tim. Yes they probably are a bit dearer but so are Audi ,bmws, fendt etc. I suppose it's what you want at the end of the day

dar31

Greengrass1 wrote: »

AnyOne chancing urea atm?
Local coop looking to get rid of what he has. 370 he's offering

Was looking for some last week. Couldn't get any. There was some in a branch down your way, but rep wouldn't give to me as it was hard as a rock. Ask before you get some.
Went with can

mahoney_j

johnny122 wrote: »

I have one and neighbour has a new one and I can't see any plastic couplings in either of them? In fact their couplings are pharmaceutical style stainless steel flanged ends, all stainless vacuum Yes they are 4x0 but have to say we are both very happy so far with it scc, I personally talked to lots of farmers before investing and making my mind up to see had they any scc issues, in my mind anyway it's the best way to milk cows and proven with their customers, nothing at all wrong with other makes but please don't go harping on about how good gea ,fullwood are and how bad dairymaster because it is not true

My opinion and am entitled to it if I had to pick a parlour in morning it'd be
Fullwood
Gea
Gasgoine
De laval
Pearson
Dairy master
All in that order .dairymaster experience left a real sour taste with me anyway from my dealings with them and milking in there parlours and talking to current and past customers of them .20 k difference between inital and final quote was enough in itself to turn me off ,just got impression I'd buy off them cause there Irish etc ,quote was even given on an a4 envelope with no offers to go see equipment etc till it was too late .never happend with any of opposition anyway better things to do than be having a pointless argument over a milking machine on a Saturday evening ..a milking machine is a serious investement and one which shouldn't be taken lightly or the cheapest quote u get .things like service cost ,parts cost and dealer back up way more important

Greengrass1

dar31 wrote: »

Was looking for some last week. Couldn't get any. There was some in a branch down your way, but rep wouldn't give to me as it was hard as a rock. Ask before you get some.
Went with can

That would be nothing new in my local one.
Bought 4t leifi boost last month and it was hard as a rock

johnny122

mahoney_j wrote: »

My opinion and am entitled to it if I had to pick a parlour in morning it'd be
Fullwood
Gea
Gasgoine
De laval
Pearson
Dairy master
All in that order .dairymaster experience left a real sour taste with me anyway from my dealings with them and milking in there parlours and talking to current and past customers of them .20 k difference between inital and final quote was enough in itself to turn me off ,just got impression I'd buy off them cause there Irish etc ,quote was even given on an a4 envelope with no offers to go see equipment etc till it was too late .never happend with any of opposition anyway better things to do than be having a pointless argument over a milking machine on a Saturday evening ..a milking machine is a serious investement and one which shouldn't be taken lightly or the cheapest quote u get .things like service cost ,parts cost and dealer back up way more important

True mahony but the way did you know 65% of Irish cows are milked by a darymaster machine so they can't be too bad. But I agree backup is more important than the make.

mahoney_j

johnny122 wrote: »

True mahony but the way did you know 65% of Irish cows are milked by a darymaster machine so they can't be too bad. But I agree backup is more important than the make.

Are u a dm dealer or do u work for them by any chance ???sorry had to ask!!!!!

johnny122

mahoney_j wrote: »

Are u a dm dealer or do u work for them by any chance ???sorry had to ask!!!!!

No but I have been to factory.

mahoney_j

johnny122 wrote: »

No but I have been to factory.

So have I ,very impressive place and great Irish success story in fairness

mf240

whelan2 wrote: »

This might be a stupid question but in the bord bia dairy inspection, do they look at the cows?

Looked at the cows here. Took photos of a few. I drove him out in the jeep.

Its not too bad and even you fail you get time to fix without a full repeat.

awaywithyou

mahoney_j wrote: »

So have I ,very impressive place and great Irish success story in fairness

You should have called in

kowtow

whelan2 wrote:

This might be a stupid question but in the bord bia dairy inspection, do they look at the cows?

The state of our industry in a sentence.

Post of the year.

frazzledhome

DeLaval here. They are good parlours but the same as any others really. I purchased based on the fact that it was the nearest dealership.

To me back up is most important. My neighbour had a problem last Sunday am and was giving out like mad as the service gut too 1.5 hrs to get to him. If you consider that he lives over an hour away I think he did well

keep going

frazzledhome wrote: »

DeLaval here. They are good parlours but the same as any others really. I purchased based on the fact that it was the nearest dealership.

To me back up is most important. My neighbour had a problem last Sunday am and was giving out like mad as the service gut too 1.5 hrs to get to him. If you consider that he lives over an hour away I think he did well

I thought you going back to your roots there for a while

mf240

kowtow wrote: »

The state of our industry in a sentence.

Post of the year.

Sure its part time work for a few small beef and sheep farmers that would be on income support otherwise. Plus it gets them out of the house.

The chinese mothers buying our baby powder will be relieved to know that the irish dairy farmers all have their pto shafts covered.

frazzledhome

mf240 wrote: »

Sure its part time work for a few small beef and sheep farmers that would be on income support otherwise. Plus it gets them out of the house.

The chinese mothers buying our baby powder will be relieved to know that the irish dairy farmers all have their pto shafts covered.

If the Chinese fathers would leave their shafts in covered things may improve:)

Sacrolyte

mf240 wrote: »

Sure its part time work for a few small beef and sheep farmers that would be on income support otherwise. Plus it gets them out of the house.

The chinese mothers buying our baby powder will be relieved to know that the irish dairy farmers all have their pto shafts covered.

Not to mention the fact that the cats had his worm dose. Now that I think of it the chinaman would probably want a blue book for pussys.

Edit; sorry that just sounds weong.

alps

Sacrolyte wrote: »

Not to mention the fact that the cats had his worm dose. Now that I think of it the chinaman would probably want a blue book for pussys.

Edit; sorry that just sounds weong.

What...keep a record of all of them you've had.....trouble here cause didn't declare them all..

Milked out

frazzledhome wrote: »

DeLaval here. They are good parlours but the same as any others really. I purchased based on the fact that it was the nearest dealership.

To me back up is most important. My neighbour had a problem last Sunday am and was giving out like mad as the service gut too 1.5 hrs to get to him. If you consider that he lives over an hour away I think he did well

Back up is the big thing really. Dairymaster here but local service man is very good, even Christmas day was out good and fast. Son is with him last few years so hopefully he will be as good. Aside from cost which was main reason but that's also why I went with no extras bar feeders and mangers that only allow one cow on, less to maintain and reolace

Greengrass1

Joined up last yrs autumn born calves and spring maiden.
V hard to pick them out from spring maidens there so big.
Making me wonder could they have gone incalf :rolleyes:

frazzledhome

We have a young lad who looks at young stock on heifer farm 30km away at weekends. He phoned this morning at 6.45 alerting me that an 8 mth old weanling had bloat and was in pain.

Our milker had his weekend off and we were milking so I called our guy who rears the calves. This guy is on a 2 day week at the moment and signs off for calf rearing months. He does 2 evening milkings every 2nd week.

Fair dues he answered his phone and drove to farm, brought in calf, treated and went home. Not too many would do that. It meant the difference between a live ai heifer and a dead one