Farmers Threaten To Take Law Into Their Own Hands. What Can Be Done?

josephryan1989 · 07-09-2015 01:47PM #1

A report by Paul Williams in today's Irish Independent describes how swathes of rural Ireland are at the mercy of roving bands of burglars alleged by Williams and the farmers he interviewed as members of the travelling community. Tools, equipment, trailers, fuel and a range of other items have been stolen from properties and allegedly turn up at stalls and car boot sales.

Losing faith in the Gardaí who have little or no presence in rural localities since the closure or downgrading of rural stations, local farmers are claiming they are sleeping with shotguns and are threatening to take the law into their own hands and shoot intruders if the Gardaí won't help them.

What can be done?

paulbok · 07-09-2015 01:48PM

Buy them bullets

biko · 07-09-2015 01:48PM

Kill them all, let god sort them out.

howamidifferent · 07-09-2015 01:50PM

josephryan1989 wrote: »

A report by Paul Williams in today's Irish Independent describes how swathes of rural Ireland are at the mercy of roving bands of burglars alleged by Williams and the farmers he interviewed as members of the travelling community. Tools, equipment, trailers, fuel and a range of other items have been stolen from properties and allegedly turn up at stalls and car boot sales.

Losing faith in the Gardaí who have little or no presence in rural localities since the closure or downgrading of rural station, local farmers are claiming they are sleeping with shotguns and are threatening to take the law into their own hands and shoot intruders if the Gardaí won't help them.

What can be done?

What can be done? Shoot them, twice, just to be sure...then kick them in the bollocks for good measure. It needs to be done because Gardai are non-existant in the countryside.

Arsemageddon · 07-09-2015 01:50PM

josephryan1989 wrote: »

A report by Paul Williams in today's Irish Independent...........

You lost me after I read this bit.

namloc1980 · 07-09-2015 01:51PM

Guns will sort this out.

whiskeyman · 07-09-2015 01:51PM

josephryan1989 wrote: »

What can be done?

I've got the perfect solution!!

Members of our travelling community are often discriminated against looking for employment.
Let's employ them to act as a vigilante police force, roaming the countryside and protecting our farming folk.
They could respond in quick time using their sulky racing methods.
Rumour has it, these fine people are very aware of the country lands, and even know what valuable tools / machinery many of our farmers currently own.

I can't see how this could fail!
You can all thank me later

SEPT 23 1989 · 07-09-2015 01:52PM

they should be armed to the teeth and given immunity from prosecution

Riskymove · 07-09-2015 01:52PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Guns will sort this out.

absolutely....I mean there is no burglary or theft in the USA:rolleyes:

Streetwalker · 07-09-2015 01:52PM

Legalise guns. Have them sold in Aldi and Lidl on specials once a month. What could possibly go wrong?

Uriel. · 07-09-2015 01:53PM

I think it's about time somebody did something. I certainly won't lose any sleep over a few dead criminals, travellers or otherwise

My name is URL · 07-09-2015 01:54PM

Arsemageddon wrote: »

You lost me after I read this bit.

Hey, he has to keep himself seeming relevant somehow

howamidifferent · 07-09-2015 01:55PM

They should dissapear them all into slurry tanks. Or bogland...

namloc1980 · 07-09-2015 01:56PM

Riskymove wrote: »

absolutely....I mean there is no burglary or theft in the USA:rolleyes:

No burglary or theft in the US. What planet are you living on?

*it would seem your sarcasm detector is irreparably broken*

josephryan1989 · 07-09-2015 01:56PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

they should be armed to the teeth and given immunity from prosecution

Burglars or farmers?

And only for a Predator hunter to turn up attracted by a mini civil war to pursue and kill human prey?

07-09-2015 03:11PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

they should be armed to the teeth and given immunity from prosecution

How many other farmers would end up shot 'by accident' I wonder

jank · 07-09-2015 03:17PM

Perhaps offer them training in the safe usage of guns?

Sheep Lover · 07-09-2015 03:34PM

Put a height barrier at the front gate to stop Transits getting in?..

07-09-2015 03:37PM

Sniper rifles with awards for the longest headshot at the end of the year.

Overheal · 07-09-2015 03:39PM

Old West, eh?

The Gardai and the Farmers have cleearly downgraded their Social Contract. If Ireland wants to be "gun-free" so to speak (recreational shooting and stuff, see Sparks for info), then it is obliged to facilitate 100% Gardai Jurisdiction with reasonable effectiveness.

Unless the Gardai want to agree to crackdown and provide more relief to rural areas, they have no choice but to advise the farmers to take the defense of their land into their own hands, as it has been done for countless generations.

PARlance · 07-09-2015 03:40PM

Sheep Lover wrote: »

Put a height barrier at the front gate to stop Transits getting in?..

Ideal for the tractorless farmer!

Reiver · 07-09-2015 03:49PM

Donate some of the IRA armoury to the west. The boys said they don't need them anymore so rural dwellers might as well put them to some use.

dandyelevan · 07-09-2015 03:53PM

whiskeyman wrote: »

I've got the perfect solution!!

Members of our travelling community are often discriminated against looking for employment.
Let's employ them to act as a vigilante police force, roaming the countryside and protecting our farming folk.
They could respond in quick time using their sulky racing methods.
Rumour has it, these fine people are very aware of the country lands, and even know what valuable tools / machinery many of our farmers currently own.

I can't see how this could fail!
You can all thank me later

An' t'would be good for the environment too ...

dandyelevan · 07-09-2015 03:56PM

We could have a Traveller Police Force. The USA has the Tribal Police for Indian Reservations.

colm_mcm · 07-09-2015 03:59PM

Streetwalker wrote: »

Legalise guns. Have them sold in Aldi and Lidl on specials once a month. What could possibly go wrong?

The guns. after about a week.

pmasterson95 · 07-09-2015 04:01PM

Riskymove wrote: »

absolutely....I mean there is no burglary or theft in the USA:rolleyes:

Not many repeat offenders. Corpses dont steal well.

mfceiling · 07-09-2015 04:24PM

All very well blaming the garda lads but rural stations are all but gone. Garda numbers barely increased and dwindling fleet vehicles covering huge areas. One guy from tipp on the radio today and was saying that the garda had 1 car covering an area of 30-40 miles.

Believe me from talking to Garda in the Midlands recently they are as pïssed off as any of us at the spate of robberies caused by travellers.

howamidifferent · 07-09-2015 04:47PM

Since they claim to be an ethnic minority preserving their culture we should add everyone of them to a DNA database. Nothing to hide so they shouldnt have any objection. Then let forensics at all the crimescenes ala CSI...

RobertKK · 07-09-2015 05:03PM

I had three dogs stolen before the home heating oil of my neighbours (whose house is close by) was stolen. I just hope the dogs weren't used as bait to blood fighting dogs.

I have security cameras now, and I have less visitors wanting to sell stuff, which is most likely stolen. I had one person come a couple of years back, he said he was before the courts and all the stuff he was selling was legit and he was selling stuff to show the court he had changed.

rubadub · 07-09-2015 05:23PM

This was on TV3 this morning.

Dealing with Rural Crime

We meet a Galway couple who say they have been left with no option but to sleep with a nail gun to protect their property.

https://www.tv3.ie/ireland_am_video.php?locID=1.65.74&video=98581

tigerboon · 07-09-2015 06:43PM

josephryan1989 wrote: »

A report by Paul Williams in today's Irish Independent describes how swathes of rural Ireland are at the mercy of roving bands of burglars alleged by Williams and the farmers he interviewed as members of the travelling community. Tools, equipment, trailers, fuel and a range of other items have been stolen from properties and allegedly turn up at stalls and car boot sales.

Losing faith in the Gardaí who have little or no presence in rural localities since the closure or downgrading of rural stations, local farmers are claiming they are sleeping with shotguns and are threatening to take the law into their own hands and shoot intruders if the Gardaí won't help them.

What can be done?

Stay out of their homes. Everybody should have the right to defend their families and property

Farmers Threaten To Take Law Into Their Own Hands. What Can Be Done?

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