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"Haunting Image Of Drowned Boy Sums Up Consequences Of 'The Syrian War'"

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    snubbleste wrote: »
    So after his family were refused legtimate passage to Canada. He skips the queue purely because of publicity and a media storm
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/syria-migrants-canada-drowned-migrants-1.3213772

    Skips the queue? How? Regardless he declined. I would say he'd rather have his family. Now he has lost everything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    snubbleste wrote: »
    So after his family were refused legtimate passage to Canada. He skips the queue purely because of publicity and a media storm
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/syria-migrants-canada-drowned-migrants-1.3213772

    He's now going back to Syria


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭20Cent


    snubbleste wrote: »
    So after his family were refused legtimate passage to Canada. He skips the queue purely because of publicity and a media storm
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/syria-migrants-canada-drowned-migrants-1.3213772

    Don't think they were refused there was problems regarding documentation from the Turkish side.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Nermal wrote: »
    There are no flights to Australia from warzones, no land borders with warzones, and no warzones that are a leaky small boat ride away.

    They are sensible enough to realise that anyone arriving claiming asylum is either an economic migrant, or not following the Dublin regulation. So they can all be considered illegal immigrants.

    Their geographic position is exactly analogous to Ireland's, by the way. We should adopt the same policy.

    How is Australia bound by an EU treaty???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    There has been dead children taken from the sea before and taken off many of the boats by naval vessels but the ****ehawk vultures that are the photographers and journalists are not allowed near those situations so were unable to get photos of dead children floating in the water before that would whip up sentiment and the world media into such a clickbait type frenzy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    There has been dead children taken from the sea before and taken off many of the boats by naval vessels but the ****ehawk vultures that are the photographers and journalists are not allowed near those situations so were unable to get photos of dead children floating in the water before that would whip up sentiment and the world media into such a clickbait type frenzy.

    Here I think the photographers have done a good thing open the worlds eyes to the suffering these refugees endure


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,096 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Gatling wrote: »
    Seems Holland now plans to remove failed asylum seeker from state shelters and will stop any funding to organisations who help them

    Which is what we should have been doing all along. After 10 years of spoofers and chancers (80,000 in total though apparently we're not doing our bit) who were all defended to the hilt, few of whom were deported and many of whom are on the welfare teat for life, there is now zero faith in the functioning of the asylum system.
    So take a bow all you 'no to deportations' activists and open boarders loons, you've so fatigued the good will of the Irish and filled whatever capacity we had with spoofers that now, when genuine refugees arrive, nobody wants them.

    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-28189608

    Australia's refugee policy flies in the face of international treaties and gets UN condemnation. Great model


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭FalconGirl


    Why are the US keeping so quiet? A large part of this problem is down to their foreign policy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    efb wrote: »
    Here I think the photographers have done a good thing open the worlds eyes to the suffering these refugees endure

    Where have they been when there were millions killed across Africa and even closer to home in Bosnia? There are thousands of children dying in china and India through neglect and poverty simply because they are the wrong "caste" and are seen as no more valuable than dogs on the street, where are the journalists reporting on this?

    The person who took the photos of that poor little boy saw nothing more than the thousands of Euro they would make from the pictures and footage!

    Again your post reminds me of Dougal


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    There comes a point when an event hits home we can be very removed from the suffering of others. Some I can see on here enjoy seeing the suffering from the comfort of Ireland. Continue to Snigger on ..

    Nobody is enjoying their suffering, nor is their anything in Kews post suggesting he was, brutal accusation tbh. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Irish Praetorian


    FalconGirl wrote: »
    Why are the US keeping so quiet? A large part of this problem is down to their foreign policy.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=96871079&postcount=891

    Linked for your pleasure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    Where have they been when there were millions killed across Africa and even closer to home in Bosnia? There are thousands of children dying in china and India through neglect and poverty simply because they are the wrong "caste" and are seen as no more valuable than dogs on the street, where are the journalists reporting on this?

    The person who took the photos of that poor little boy saw nothing more than the thousands of Euro they would make from the pictures and footage!

    Again your post reminds me of Dougal

    I remember harrowing images from Africa and Bosnia that spurred international support for the famines and genocide.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    FalconGirl wrote: »
    Why are the US keeping so quiet? A large part of this problem is down to their foreign policy.

    They gave up a long time ago on Iraq, Syria is just the latest casualty of their grotesque foreign policy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,295 ✭✭✭FortySeven


    Something changed in me today. I had a newspaper thrust into my hand on my tea break, 'have you seen this?'

    I would take a year off my life to be able to go back and not look at that haunting image. I have been walking around in a daze all day with a lump in my throat I have not felt since I was a young boy myself. It has returned to me throughout the day and I have been fighting back tears while trying to deal with customers, I could not get out of work fast enough to the sanctuary of my car. Sorry stuff for a man in his 30s.

    '100 drowned in migrant tragedy!' '74 rotting corpses found in van,' 'more migrants drown as boat capsizes.' The headlines keep coming.

    I have been aware of this going on and thought it was horrific but nothing prepared me for the brutal honesty of that picture I saw this morning, I keep picturing the nervous smile and the trusting eyes of a little boy getting into a dinghy with his family. Probably tired and hungry but excited at the adventure. Then the panic, the fear and that last desperate breath.

    How small I feel today, how priviliged I am to not have these struggles. I despair at the world I live in and am ashamed of my lack of action but here I am, just another voice on the internet saying how I feel about this. Powerless to change the forces that have reduced the innocent to flotsam and jetsam.

    I called out a co-worker today at lunch, the usual ignorant 'one less to come over here', 'all full of disease' etc, etc. I have been listening to his Islamophobia for years but today I had enough and told him that's enough. I won't stand idly listening to this ****e anymore. It is a small thing but if enough people do one small thing then big changes can happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,692 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    Im guessing you dont have any kids

    Maybe I do, maybe I don't. What's that got to do with the price of fish?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭cashback


    FortySeven wrote: »
    I called out a co-worker today at lunch, the usual ignorant 'one less to come over here', 'all full of disease' etc, etc

    People like this make me despair for humanity. "One less to come over here." Something seriously missing in anyone who says that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭ComfortKid


    So if Ireland is to take in a few thousand of these refugees, Where do we put them? We have a massive backlog in social housing, massive unemployment problem. Serious question, what do we do.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,119 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    ComfortKid wrote: »
    So if Ireland is to take in a few thousand of these refugees, Where do we put them? We have a massive backlog in social housing, massive unemployment problem. Serious question, what do we do.
    Stop asking awkward questions!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭ComfortKid


    And isn't it strange how we get this image sprawled accoss the papers and internet the very day Euro leaders are having a meeting about it? It's been going on for months now. There has been a few threads on boards about it already


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,457 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    ComfortKid wrote: »
    And isn't it strange how we get this image sprawled accoss the papers and internet the very day Euro leaders are having a meeting about it? It's been going on for months now. There has been a few threads on boards about it already

    Great we got rid of one conspiracy theorist earlier today to be replaced by another :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,250 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    babyteeth wrote: »
    The lack of humanity on here is terrifying....

    So is the lack of reality...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    ComfortKid wrote: »
    And isn't it strange how we get this image sprawled accoss the papers and internet the very day Euro leaders are having a meeting about it? It's been going on for months now. There has been a few threads on boards about it already


    It is an attempt to concentrate the minds. At least not like the sleazy journalists and editorials that want to make this into sensationalism. This if extremely serious and dangerous for the countries bordering the Mediterranean. The refugees will keep coming as long as places like Iraq continue to be breeding ground for sectarianism. An entire cities population fled Mosul, Baghdad is under threat from Islamist war lords and a genocidal army is fighting the gvt of Syria.

    When the ISIS militants are effectively eliminated as a threat will the refugees begin to return to their homelands and the stream of refugees will begin to slow. Thus far the violence has remained over there and the extremists are having great success in the power vacuum but once a solid defence force is established they will melt away. These people are well trained and armed and are instilling fear and desperation into the local population.


  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ComfortKid wrote: »
    And isn't it strange how we get this image sprawled accoss the papers and internet the very day Euro leaders are having a meeting about it? It's been going on for months now. There has been a few threads on boards about it already

    Is this the opportunism some other poster was talking about?

    A family of opportunists it would seem. Why could they not have died at some time and in some place that was less public, less accessible to someone with a camera...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,457 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    ComfortKid wrote: »
    So if Ireland is to take in a few thousand of these refugees, Where do we put them? We have a massive backlog in social housing, massive unemployment problem. Serious question, what do we do.

    There is a **** load of empty housing in this country that they could be housed in.

    http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/itll-take-us-43-years-to-fill-all-empty-houses-26863864.html

    There is a surplus of €1.4 billion over the budget estimates already this year. Some of that could be easily diverted to funding taking in refugees.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    ComfortKid wrote: »
    And isn't it strange how we get this image sprawled accoss the papers and internet the very day Euro leaders are having a meeting about it? It's been going on for months now. There has been a few threads on boards about it already

    EU leaders have had about a dozen meetings regarding this issue over the last few months


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    ComfortKid wrote: »
    So if Ireland is to take in a few thousand of these refugees, Where do we put them? We have a massive backlog in social housing, massive unemployment problem. Serious question, what do we do.

    We had nearly double unemployment 5 years ago and we survived.

    Taking in lets say 5 thousand isn't really gonna have too big an effect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,247 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    gandalf wrote: »
    There is a **** load of empty housing in this country that they could be housed in.

    You should check that 3yr old link..... Empty houses are much fewer now..... So I assume you propose compulsory purchase?
    There is a surplus of €1.4 over the budget estimates already this year. Some of that could be easily diverted to funding taking in refugees.
    Or better still, reversing the disastrous 61% cut in capital expenditure.

    The foreign aid budget will get a boost, but there are bigger fish ahead of the queue eager for a much needed funding boost.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    WakeUp wrote: »
    perhaps so but a large portion of the Syrian people the sunnis in the main decided to rise up and start a civil war. the minorities the Christians and such they are hunkered down with Assad as they know if he falls well you can work that one out for yourself.

    Seriously. Assad would be fine without western involvement in the Arab Spring.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    gandalf wrote: »
    There is a **** load of empty housing in this country that they could be housed in.

    http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/itll-take-us-43-years-to-fill-all-empty-houses-26863864.html

    There is a surplus of €1.4 billion over the budget estimates already this year. Some of that could be easily diverted to funding taking in refugees.

    That surplus over estimates still leaves us in deficit.


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