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Farmer Pudsey · 01-09-2015 11:06PM

Willfarman wrote: »

Unfortunately they never rise as quick as they fall.

I hope 4.00 will hold thereabouts and start to head the right way in a few weeks. It will be mid nov before they are back at the 4.20 mark I think. Weather in the east is good. Soil conditions very good and grass is over the ditches!

However we have never entered an autumn where the kill will be lower than at any stage during the year.

Willfarman · 01-09-2015 11:12PM

2011. Cattle were dearer in autumn than the spring. When do you envisage a rise starting and how much?

Farmer Pudsey · 01-09-2015 11:34PM

Willfarman wrote: »

2011. Cattle were dearer in autumn than the spring. When do you envisage a rise starting and how much?

The out look is for dry weather for next 7-10 days. If this starts to slow the kill( it will have to slow at some sage IMO unless we see a huge number of 2014 born cattle come fit) I cannot see processors being able to control prices by pulling and holding the line.

With anything it is an inexact science it is really about the numbers and the kill going below 28K for 2-3 weeks in a row.

Willfarman · 01-09-2015 11:45PM

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

The out look is for dry weather for next 7-10 days. If this starts to slow the kill( it will have to slow at some sage IMO unless we see a huge number of 2014 born cattle come fit) I cannot see processors being able to control prices by pulling and holding the line.

With anything it is an inexact science it is really about the numbers and the kill going below 28K for 2-3 weeks in a row.

If cattle were pulled 5 cent last week to this week. And they go back that 5 cent in 2 weeks time. Is that a rise by definition?

Farmer Pudsey · 01-09-2015 11:51PM

Willfarman wrote: »

If cattle were pulled 5 cent last week to this week. And they go back that 5 cent in 2 weeks time. Is that a rise by definition?

Not really I have heard two prices locally today both were above quoted base. Both were for small numbers. If numbers drop prices will recover fast. I think a lot of what is going on is trying to drag the base down so that as numbers drop they will have a lower price to give rises from.

However a base of 4.2 on cattle in October is better to me than 4.2 in August or 4.3 in July

Willfarman · 02-09-2015 12:03AM

What were they quoted and to go where? Slaney is on 4.00 for today and tomorrow but they were booked in last week. Dead nuts on 3.95 being price theron.

Farmer Pudsey · 02-09-2015 12:27AM

Willfarman wrote: »

What were they quoted and to go where? Slaney is on 4.00 for today and tomorrow but they were booked in last week. Dead nuts on 3.95 being price theron.

This is similar cattle booked in last week for this week. Killed today. Herefords and AA's bullocks, underage 4.05 of a base.

Willfarman · 02-09-2015 09:15AM

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

This is similar cattle booked in last week for this week. Killed today. Herefords and AA's bullocks, underage 4.05 of a base.

Did they have to travel?

Farmer Pudsey · 02-09-2015 09:43AM

Willfarman wrote: »

Did they have to travel?

No local factory just down the road

Willfarman · 02-09-2015 10:18AM

I heard of pizzle fizzle tizzle sticks..
Sure rangler must be right, there's no cartel. There are better quotes always for " hardened sellers".....

Farmer Pudsey · 02-09-2015 11:26AM

Willfarman wrote: »

I heard of pizzle fizzle tizzle sticks..
Sure rangler must be right, there's no cartel. There are better quotes always for " hardened sellers".....

I think at the moment it is what they are short of at any stage or for larger quanties. Local Factory is not paying for cows especially lower grading P/O cows. Last week a lad was quoted 3.5/kg for R's cows so he has to travel with them. There seems to be a shortage of underage cattle and factory seem to be willing to quote higher for same if they are looking for numbers.

Thinking back maybe I should have offloaded 5-6 at that price last week. Howwever I have a couple AA bullocks that I will have to sell within 2-3 weeks as going overage and will start to go over fat.

CloughCasey1 · 02-09-2015 01:58PM

Willfarman wrote: »

I heard of pizzle fizzle tizzle sticks..
Sure rangler must be right, there's no cartel. There are better quotes always for " hardened sellers".....

Definitely right so he is. That tough nut of a farmer that got his 5c extra is minting it. €570 extra in a €45,600 double load. All of 1.01% extra. I'd say both AIB and BOI were on the phone to him the next morning to see would he invest his extra loot with them.

Willfarman · 02-09-2015 03:08PM

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Definitely right so he is. That tough nut of a farmer that got his 5c extra is minting it. €570 extra in a €45,600 double load. All of 1.01% extra. I'd say both AIB and BOI were on the phone to him the next morning to see would he invest his extra loot with them.

This 2 hardened local sellers from Pudseyville only had small numbers and got their 5 cent.

But now if they had doubles well... I'd hate to be that poor bastard procurement man... Larry would have him nailed to a pool table after.. " you gave him " 10 cent and half the lorry??" " yes boss but you don't know what I was dealing with, he's a hardened seller. He really ****ed with my head boss"

mf240 · 02-09-2015 03:15PM

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Definitely right so he is. That tough nut of a farmer that got his 5c extra is minting it. €570 extra in a €45,600 double load. All of 1.01% extra. I'd say both AIB and BOI were on the phone to him the next morning to see would he invest his extra loot with them.

If you can afford to throw away 570 euros. Fair play to you.

bogman_bass · 02-09-2015 03:42PM

Willfarman wrote: »

This 2 hardened local sellers from Pudseyville only had small numbers and got their 5 cent.

But now if they had doubles well... I'd hate to be that poor bastard procurement man... Larry would have him nailed to a pool table after.. " you gave him " 10 cent and half the lorry??" " yes boss but you don't know what I was dealing with, he's a hardened seller. He really ****ed with my head boss"

I spat out my tea reading that

CloughCasey1 · 02-09-2015 04:26PM

mf240 wrote: »

If you can afford to throw away 570 euros. Fair play to you.

Ah come on now Ted my tounge was firmly stuck in my cheek! Can you not see the hidden point!

Willfarman · 03-09-2015 02:58PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cxNNzdp8eU

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3.95 and they are talking 3.90 next week. The Fffing bxtards!

CloughCasey1 · 03-09-2015 05:48PM

Willfarman wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cxNNzdp8eU
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3.95 and they are talking 3.90 next week. The Fffing bxtards!

They are going to town on it now. There is taking it down before it goes up and there is taking the piss. These lads know how to take the piss. I wonder why they bothered there arse going to 4.30 in July. There is fcuk all that lads were going to do about it anyway.

Willfarman · 04-09-2015 07:43AM

Well the knives will really be out in spring 17 on. Every second calf would want a bullet now really.

The round table might as well have been playing tiddlywinks.

Coveney is just biding his time at the moment keeping the head down and winging towards the election.

CloughCasey1 · 04-09-2015 08:43AM

Willfarman wrote: »

Well the knives will really be out in spring 17 on. Every second calf would want a bullet now really.

The round table might as well have been playing tiddlywinks.

Coveney is just biding his time at the moment keeping the head down and winging towards the election.

If the same shower get in again the agriculture portfolio could be diluted even further or worse still given to some union pro, protect the factory workers ****bag in Labour.

Farrell · 04-09-2015 10:27AM

Willfarman wrote: »

Well the knives will really be out in spring 17 on. Every second calf would want a bullet now really.

The round table might as well have been playing tiddlywinks.

Coveney is just biding his time at the moment keeping the head down and winging towards the election.

With the stg allot stronger than it was in 14, this should help, unless massive cuts there too

Milked out · 04-09-2015 10:33AM

Are the exporters of calves reduced all together or what? Couple of years ago used to have a lad call every year buying calves 2 wks to month old for export and haven't seen him in 4 or 5 yrs I'd say now. 80 euro was his tops but if calf price in mart was below 100 you'd leave em off as he took them from yard and no mart or transport fees

Cavanjack · 04-09-2015 10:45AM

Goes to show the protests last year by the Ifa were a farce. Their gripe at the time was the difference between prices here and the UK. I'd imagine that difference has increased now and not a word about it.

mahoney_j · 04-09-2015 10:45AM

Milked out wrote: »

Are the exporters of calves reduced all together or what? Couple of years ago used to have a lad call every year buying calves 2 wks to month old for export and haven't seen him in 4 or 5 yrs I'd say now. 80 euro was his tops but if calf price in mart was below 100 you'd leave em off as he took them from yard and no mart or transport fees

Exporters were priced out of market by the cute beef man who started spending crazy money on bull calves .these same lads cried wolf all last year when beef hit the floor because of all the calves they bought up which flooded the market ,the exact same thing will happen late next year and 2017 because they never learnt and repeated the mistake this spring just gone ..Larry is already rubbing his hands .exporters have a role to play in getting rid of fr bull calves ,80 euro at 10 days old should be snapped up by dairy men and concentrate on rearing heifer calves and calving cows

Base price · 04-09-2015 11:01AM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Exporters were priced out of market by the cute beef man who started spending crazy money on bull calves .these same lads cried wolf all last year when beef hit the floor because of all the calves they bought up which flooded the market ,the exact same thing will happen late next year and 2017 because they never learnt and repeated the mistake this spring just gone ..Larry is already rubbing his hands .exporters have a role to play in getting rid of fr bull calves ,80 euro at 10 days old should be snapped up by dairy men and concentrate on rearing heifer calves and calving cows

+1
And don't forget the €40 to €50 paid for JEx bull calves. Plenty of those were reared too.

rangler1 · 04-09-2015 12:41PM

Cavanjack wrote: »

Goes to show the protests last year by the Ifa were a farce. Their gripe at the time was the difference between prices here and the UK. I'd imagine that difference has increased now and not a word about it.

It doesn't matter what the English beef is worth, we have to come into the english market in competition with European beef.
Unfortunately it's the same with lamb in france, we're competing with the English lamb there and getting more than €1/kg less than French farmers are getting.

rangler1 · 04-09-2015 12:58PM

Willfarman wrote: »

I heard of pizzle fizzle tizzle sticks..
Sure rangler must be right, there's no cartel. There are better quotes always for " hardened sellers".....

Well you've seen my lamb price, it can be done.
even higher this week than the IFA TEXT

patsy_mccabe · 04-09-2015 03:07PM

Don't forget all the extra Dairy cows that might come into the system too, if milk prices continue the way they are.

White Clover · 04-09-2015 03:49PM

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

If the same shower get in again the agriculture portfolio could be diluted even further or worse still given to some union pro, protect the factory workers ****bag in Labour.

Imo the government are doing an overall ok job. Not Coveney though.
Who would everyone like to see as the next minister of Agriculture ?

Mad4simmental · 04-09-2015 07:46PM

This girl was bulling today so she's getting the road. I think she's about 600kg. I'm going to let her finish her calf for the next 4 weeks and dry her and sell her in about 5 weeks. What do you think she's worth? Nice big cow but needs feeding.

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