Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread IV

dregin · 31-08-2015 05:14PM

Carton house is in fact just one big faraday cage.

wittycynic · 31-08-2015 05:15PM

kuang1 wrote: »

This is strangely impressive...5.10pm and not a dicky bird of a half-reliable rumour doing the rounds.

Am I over-reading into this to think that this is an indication of how cohesive and tight this squad is?

I think we may have to wait until 1.00am, when the Irish Times's articles for tomorrow's paper go live on their website. They will almost certainly have the "predicted" squad listed.

But yes, impressive cohesion.

Zzippy · 31-08-2015 05:18PM

Just wondering... is there any rule to prevent squad members playing for their clubs after the 31st August and before the WC starts? Say, for instance, Joe wanted some players to get gametime, but hadn't room for them in the squad for the England match this weekend, could some of them play for their province? Or are they restricted to training/playing for their national team once the squads have been selected? Probably a moot point, but the thought struck me just now...

awec · 31-08-2015 05:20PM

I doubt it's against the rules but I don't see why it would happen.

JF100 · 31-08-2015 05:21PM

Informed and educational responses to the questions asked...
Thanks.
It has been helpful.

total former · 31-08-2015 05:23PM

Zzippy wrote: »

Just wondering... is there any rule to prevent squad members playing for their clubs after the 31st August and before the WC starts? Say, for instance, Joe wanted some players to get gametime, but hadn't room for them in the squad for the England match this weekend, could some of them play for their province? Or are they restricted to training/playing for their national team once the squads have been selected? Probably a moot point, but the thought struck me just now...

I'd expect Josh Strauss to play for Glasgow this weekend...

circos · 31-08-2015 05:28PM

This seems to be doing the rounds....not sure how true it is but I've been told its reliable...

connachta · 31-08-2015 05:29PM

The Pheasant2 wrote: »

I know it's been said but I can 100% guarantee Fitz is in the squad

That's good news

Dick Turnip · 31-08-2015 05:29PM

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Surprised this hasn't been posted here yet. From Leinstertainment facebook page

Noopti · 31-08-2015 05:30PM

Dick Turnip wrote: »

Surprised this hasn't been posted here yet. From Leinstertainment facebook page

I think I might just ignore the internet on this now.....wait until tomorrow.

(Also it has been posted)

connachta · 31-08-2015 05:31PM

total former wrote: »

Nailed it.

Joe was quoted after the game Saturday as saying that his squad selection would be 40% experience-based, 40% form-based and 20% based on what internet randomers said on boards.ie.

So it was 40% Boss 40% Marms and 19.9% Boss, if he just read here:rolleyes::pac:

accidentprone1 · 31-08-2015 05:32PM

circos wrote: »

This seems to be doing the rounds....not sure how true it is but I've been told its reliable...

Thanks for posting it.

Surely it can't be right though? Healy is already a bit of a doubt, fitness-wise. That'd leave us with one loosehead.

damianmcr · 31-08-2015 05:33PM

connachta wrote: »

That's good news

For who?

connachta · 31-08-2015 05:33PM

_Tyrrell_ wrote: »

Are we going to have to listen to this throughout the whole WC of how you feel JS should've taken Marmion, honestly it's like a broken record at this stage, just leave it.

No, just every time Boss will get (and waste) a ball.:P

total former · 31-08-2015 05:34PM

accidentprone1 wrote: »

Thanks for posting it.

Surely it can't be right though? Healy is already a bit of a doubt, fitness-wise. That'd leave us with one loosehead.

Yeah, three fully fit tightheads and only one fit loosehead would be bizarre.

Zzippy · 31-08-2015 05:35PM

awec wrote: »

I doubt it's against the rules but I don't see why it would happen.

Example 1: Player has been injured, but if fit is a definite starter. You'd like him to get 40 minutes of competitive rugby, but not a test game just yet. You name him in the squad but give him a half of a Pro12 game as a final fitness test - if he gets through the 40 mins you keep him, if not you replace him with someone else.

Example 2: You want some squad members to get competitive gametime because you don't want them undercooked in 3 weeks time. But you can only give 23 of them gametime this weekend. You release a few to their clubs this week so they can get that gametime. Players that you may need during the WC, but if they get injured this weekend it's not the end of the world as there are other players on standby that aren't a big drop in standard. The likes of DK, Boss, Kilcoyne, etc.

ken76 · 31-08-2015 05:36PM

From planet rugby (Andrew Trimble has reportedly told Schmidt that he has an issue playing on successive Sabbath days. Ireland's last 3 pool games are all Sunday kick offs (as is the likely QF?) and he has told the management team that in all conscience he cannot play consecutive Sundays. Schmidt has apparently told him that he fully respects his decision but he cannot afford to bring him on that basis.

Apparently one of the IRFU blazers was questioning Trimble's contractual obligations to Irish Rugby when this came up in Carton last week and to avoid it all getting ugly, Joe has decided to leave him at home rather than put him in an awkward position.)

Quint2010 · 31-08-2015 05:37PM

circos wrote: »

This seems to be doing the rounds....not sure how true it is but I've been told its reliable...

Yeah thats the squad the Indo are going with. Madigan third SH, Furlong as third TH and Cave as centre cover. No Trimble, Boss, Moore and only two looseheads.

damianmcr · 31-08-2015 05:37PM

Where the feck did that come from?

Noopti · 31-08-2015 05:38PM

Alright, I'm done! See you all tomorrow!

total former · 31-08-2015 05:38PM

ken76 wrote: »

From planet rugby (Andrew Trimble has reportedly told Schmidt that he has an issue playing on successive Sabbath days. Ireland's last 3 pool games are all Sunday kick offs (as is the likely QF?) and he has told the management team that in all conscience he cannot play consecutive Sundays. Schmidt has apparently told him that he fully respects his decision but he cannot afford to bring him on that basis.

Apparently one of the IRFU blazers was questioning Trimble's contractual obligations to Irish Rugby when this came up in Carton last week and to avoid it all getting ugly, Joe has decided to leave him at home rather than put him in an awkward position.)

I'm calling bullsh*t on this.

connachta · 31-08-2015 05:38PM

damianmcr wrote: »

For who?

For Ireland and the beauty of Rugby. Fitz is spectacular..

ken76 · 31-08-2015 05:39PM

total former wrote: »

I'm calling bullsh*t on this.

I hope your right , was just posted on planet rugby forum by someone who seems to be in the know

bilston · 31-08-2015 05:39PM

ken76 wrote: »

From planet rugby (Andrew Trimble has reportedly told Schmidt that he has an issue playing on successive Sabbath days. Ireland's last 3 pool games are all Sunday kick offs (as is the likely QF?) and he has told the management team that in all conscience he cannot play consecutive Sundays. Schmidt has apparently told him that he fully respects his decision but he cannot afford to bring him on that basis.

Apparently one of the IRFU blazers was questioning Trimble's contractual obligations to Irish Rugby when this came up in Carton last week and to avoid it all getting ugly, Joe has decided to leave him at home rather than put him in an awkward position.)

Well I'll say this, who ever came up with that gem gets an A for effort.

connachta · 31-08-2015 05:40PM

No Moore??

ken76 · 31-08-2015 05:41PM

http://www.the42.ie/ireland-world-cup-squad-trimble-final-31-man-2302844-Aug2015/

Quin_Dub · 31-08-2015 05:41PM

ken76 wrote: »

From planet rugby (Andrew Trimble has reportedly told Schmidt that he has an issue playing on successive Sabbath days. Ireland's last 3 pool games are all Sunday kick offs (as is the likely QF?) and he has told the management team that in all conscience he cannot play consecutive Sundays. Schmidt has apparently told him that he fully respects his decision but he cannot afford to bring him on that basis.

Apparently one of the IRFU blazers was questioning Trimble's contractual obligations to Irish Rugby when this came up in Carton last week and to avoid it all getting ugly, Joe has decided to leave him at home rather than put him in an awkward position.)

Given that the fixture list has been known for many many months (if not even longer) I somehow doubt that if this was an issue it's only coming up now....

total former · 31-08-2015 05:42PM

ken76 wrote: »

I hope your right , was just posted on planet rugby forum by someone who seems to be in the know

He's never had an issue playing Sundays before. Bit odd he'd freak out a week before the RWC squad is named.

ken76 · 31-08-2015 05:43PM

total former wrote: »

I'm calling bullsh*t on this.

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Given that the fixture list has been known for many many months (if not even longer) I somehow doubt that if this was an issue it's only coming up now....

Yeah that makes sense to me , i have to stop reading this stuff

bilston · 31-08-2015 05:43PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Given that the fixture list has been known for many many months (if not even longer) I somehow doubt that if this was an issue it's only coming up now....

He has played Sundays for his entire career! The guy who posted it on PR was probably just trying to bait a highly strung Ulster fan on the PR MB!!!

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