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Half of UK 18-24 year olds no longer fully hetrosexual

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    #62
    Duggy747
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I'm a hetero white cis male privileged shítlord.


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    #63
    Quadrature
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    Probably the same % of people over 24 who would answer the same way if they weren't so far in the closet that they're practically in Narnia!

    It would seem a lot of us aren't totally heterosexual. It's just for decades/centuries we've been made feel bad about it.

    All this survey is showing is homophobia is rapidly evaporating and that can't be a bad thing really.


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    #64
    Kev W
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭Kev W


    ThinkProgress wrote: »

    I think your post was designed to offend certain people and cause controversy! I find it rather sad when people feel the need to do this... :(

    Like the type who'll go on a thread about a fatal crash at an air show and call it great entertainment?

    Yeah, those people are scum.


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    #65
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Paramite Pie wrote: »
    The Kinsey Scale was created in 1948..... the poll options are not new



    Well if someone says they're predominantly straight I'd still say their straight overall, they just wander off from time to time. So it's about 70% straightish with still another 8% who are on the "straight" side of the bi continuum.

    Thats still a huge number though, 22% of people being closer to gay than straight? Before I came out I probably knew about 10-15 openly gay men and women personally. And this is in a liberal middle class area of Dublin, that certainly doesn't equate to 20% of people I know, maybe more like 1%..so that means a lot of people are in the closet!


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    #66
    [Deleted User]
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    Bio Mech wrote: »
    I grabbed a girls arse at a disco back in 1995. Turned out to be a guy with long hair.

    Where does that leave me?

    Sexually abusive? :)


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    #67
    Son Of A Vidic
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    Flint Fredstone wrote: »
    Sounds like a lot of assumption and nonsense to me to be honest. What constitutes not fully heterosexual?

    It's probably quite similar to not being fully hungry.


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    #68
    Old Jakey
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 436 ✭✭Old Jakey


    Lol. Not surprised though, this is what happens when you have an entire generation that spends too much time on the internet.


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    #69
    jobbridge4life
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    Old Jakey wrote: »
    Lol. Not surprised though, this is what happens when you have an entire generation that spends too much time on the internet.

    Yeah that there internet turned em all queer what with the radiowaves and inputs and outputs in the back and front.


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    #70
    force eleven
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    The fruits of our polluted enviroment, plastics, processed food, and chemically treated water over the last 50 years particularly coming home to roost as they say.


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    #71
    jobbridge4life
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    force eleven wrote: »
    The fruits of our polluted enviroment, plastics, processed food, and chemically treated water over the last 50 years particularly coming home to roost as they say.

    Or the diminishing of a particularly restrictive form of male patriarchy?


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    #72
    RDM_83 again
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    sup_dude wrote: »
    Why are we overly complicating everything? In an attempt to stop confusion over sexuality, they're going to cause it... why do we need to stick a label on absolutely everything? I would identify myself as heterosexual. I have only ever had, and only ever wanted to have sexual/romantic feelings towards men. However, I'm able to appreciate a good looking girl if I saw one. What does that make me? Probably not fully heterosexual anymore, according to today's standards... its like saying "oh you're not his label anymore, we're telling you you're now this other label". Yeah, no, fudge off. Wide spectrum labels are far better than loads of narrow ones because otherwise society scrambles to shove you into one label or another. Hetero, homo, bi, and asexual covers just about everyone to varying degrees, no need for any more.

    I don't think its the conservative people driving this multiplicity of labels, its people themselves trying to appear special/different now that gay culture is mainstream and "normal".
    This article is revealing in a way its probably not intended to be

    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/aug/18/bisexual-british-adults-define-gay-straight-heterosexual

    Probably less in Ireland thankfully but here in London I've encountered a few people that very much buy into the politicised sexuality.
    e.g not Bi instead Queer, and Heteroflexible/Sapiosexual ethical polygamy.
    Certain people don't like being part of the mainstream so when the mainstream moves they have to make up nonsensical labels.


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    #73
    Old Jakey
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    force eleven wrote: »
    The fruits of our polluted enviroment, plastics, processed food, and chemically treated water over the last 50 years particularly coming home to roost as they say.

    Look up xenoestrogens.


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    #74
    padd b1975
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,915 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Funnily enough our own boards poll isn't turning out all that different :pac: 41% of voters identifying as non straight so far. Im quite shocked by that tbh.

    I'm not....judging by the manner even the most moderate criticism of anything gay is pounced on round these parts.


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    #75
    jobbridge4life
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    sup_dude wrote: »
    Why are we overly complicating everything? In an attempt to stop confusion over sexuality, they're going to cause it... why do we need to stick a label on absolutely everything? I would identify myself as heterosexual. I have only ever had, and only ever wanted to have sexual/romantic feelings towards men. However, I'm able to appreciate a good looking girl if I saw one. What does that make me? Probably not fully heterosexual anymore, according to today's standards... its like saying "oh you're not his label anymore, we're telling you you're now this other label". Yeah, no, fudge off. Wide spectrum labels are far better than loads of narrow ones because otherwise society scrambles to shove you into one label or another. Hetero, homo, bi, and asexual covers just about everyone to varying degrees, no need for any more.

    I don't think this study was trying to invent a new multiplicity of labels it was just using a scale of sexuality from exclusively hetro to opposite exclusively homo. Like when you do a customer satisfaction survey you get to pick from 1 to 10 or extremely satisfied, very, just, neither not, just dissatisfied, very, extremely.

    It also isn't remotely new. Its from the work of Kinsey. Its not that hard to understand.


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    #76
    padd b1975
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    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    Or the diminishing of a particularly restrictive form of male patriarchy?

    Here we go with the fcuking patriarchy.


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    #77
    jobbridge4life
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    padd b1975 wrote: »
    I'm not....judging by the manner even the most moderate criticism of anything gay is pounced on round these parts.

    Nonsense. We have people talking about the internet causing homosexuality, and another saying it is a result of pollution and thats just the previous page. Also whats 'a moderate criticism of anything gay'?


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    #78
    jobbridge4life
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    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Here we go with the fcuking patriarchy.

    Right well what would you call a society that was dominated by one very restrictive view of masculinity? More strict that it had been previously and less strict than it is today. You can chose any word you want I'm not a fusspot.


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    #79
    Old Jakey
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    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Here we go with the fcuking patriarchy.

    It's always the patriarchy. Wish I some imaginary bogeyman I could blame all my problems on.


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    #80
    jobbridge4life
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    Old Jakey wrote: »
    It's always the patriarchy. Wish I some imaginary bogeyman I could blame all my problems on.

    you do... on the last page you laughably blamed the internet. Careful now old jakey or you might end up on the queer side yourself.


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    #81
    sbsquarepants
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    What does incidentally homosexual mean. Straight but I would suck a cock to pass the time if there was nothing on the telly and I couldn't get my hands on a woman at short notice?


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    #82
    Old Jakey
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    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    you do... on the last page you laughably blamed the internet. Careful now old jakey or you might end up on the queer side yourself.

    The internet is real though.


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    #83
    padd b1975
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    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    whats 'a moderate criticism of anything gay'?

    Highlighting the stats for HIV/AIDS amongst the gay community.


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    #84
    Daith
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    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Highlighting the stats for HIV/AIDS amongst the gay community.

    Which normally comes from LGBT Health organisations to highlight this very thing.

    Now criticizing homophobes for being homophobic? That's when you'll hear an outcry.


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    #85
    frostyjacks
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    The world's gone mad. You're either one or the other.


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    #86
    Quadrature
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    Very negative attitudes to homosexuality are only a relatively recent thing in these islands btw.

    It's not like we've just invented being gay in the last few years. We've been being gay for millennia.

    It was only with the arrival of the very puritanical medieval version of the Christian churches that things went downhill fast and really remained that way until quite recently.

    The lid's been lifted and I think you're just getting a sense of how people's sexuality isn't as clear cut as some people think.

    Also, remember that our closest relative is the Bonobo Ape - the make love not war ape - a species that uses sex like shaking hands and horrified the Victorians with its total bisexuality.

    That's our nearest cousin .. 98%+ of the same DNA.

    So honestly, I think it's long overdue we got over ourselves on this issue. Just live and let live!


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    #87
    jobbridge4life
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    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Highlighting the stats for HIV/AIDS amongst the gay community.

    Is that a criticism? Also to be pedantic it is feature of the gay male community. As the saying goes if aids is gods punishment for gay sex does that mean lesbians are the chosen people?

    like all things that information can be used in homophobic ways but you'd never do that Padd I am sure.


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    #88
    padd b1975
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    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    Right well what would you call a society that was dominated by one very restrictive view of masculinity?.

    Trot out that bullcrap to any man who has found himself in the family courts and see what reaction you get.

    Don't get me started on how biased the judiciary are when it comes to sentencing!


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    #89
    jobbridge4life
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    sbsquarepants wrote: »
    What does incidentally homosexual mean. Straight but I would suck a cock to pass the time if there was nothing on the telly and I couldn't get my hands on a woman at short notice?

    I mean the words are in English. In a male perspective it means that you normally only find females attractive but on occasion you've found males attractive. Almost as simple as just you know reading it.


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    #90
    RDM_83 again
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    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    and another saying it is a result of pollution and thats just the previous page.

    I wouldn't say it is the result of pollution but the idea shouldn't be simply automatically discounted because you don't like it.
    Some plastics do leak estrogen mimicking compounds, lot of rat based studies on this (its hard to prove human effect because of ethics)


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    #91
    jobbridge4life
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    Old Jakey wrote: »
    The internet is real though.

    And thank god for it too making us a whole new generation of gays.


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